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Hi, you will need both !

 

The NanoPEB/CF7 is a replacement for the PEB (PeriBox), and you can put your DSK-files there onto the CF-Card,

with a tool via your PC´s CF-Card-Reader (Fred Kaal´s "TI99DIR"-Tool).

 

You then can use (read and write) this "virtually mounted" .DSKs with the TI-99/4A and the NanoPEB,

and also "copy" them back to the PC later with the same tool (and extract your personal data from the retransfered .DSK-files)

 

But maybe you first want to read/know about the "TIPI" , here in the forum....(?!)

Maybe this is more flexible than the NanoPEB, but you need some more stuff and expertise to use that (i.e. a PI3)

 

You will also need the FinalGROM-cartridge (with SD-card) in any case (my opinion),

to have a "multi-versatile"-cartridge to use all the given BIN-files (Cartridges).

(You cannot store data on this SD-card via the TI-99)

 

TIPI just needs a pi, no expertise

 

Greg

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Demon Attack / Super Demon Attack PHM3219

 

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I know this is available for FR99 but I couldn't see a FG99 version. When a game is available for FR99 is there a community interest in an FG99 version (eg one with a GROM file) ? Perhaps I've missed it somewhere- but just in case here is my FG99 version. Works with FG99 and also my prehistoric MESS, so probably anything that can use C and G bin files.

 

The manual (I will add it to the documentation thread by month end) and the module label both say SUPER DEMON ATTACK but the menu entry and the game title screen just say DEMON ATTACK. I am a very poor player of this one.

 

Watch for the manual appearing in the next week or so after

http://atariage.com/forums/topic/248687-ti-99-docs-manuals-ebooks-lost-found/page-11?do=findComment&comment=4239382

 

regards

 

Stephen

 

 

 

SuperDemonAttackFG99.zip

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Demon Attack / Super Demon Attack PHM3219

 

attachicon.gifSUPERDEMONATTACK.png

 

I know this is available for FR99 but I couldn't see a FG99 version. When a game is available for FR99 is there a community interest in an FG99 version (eg one with a GROM file) ? Perhaps I've missed it somewhere- but just in case here is my FG99 version. Works with FG99 and also my prehistoric MESS, so probably anything that can use C and G bin files.

 

The manual (I will add it to the documentation thread by month end) and the module label both say SUPER DEMON ATTACK but the menu entry and the game title screen just say DEMON ATTACK. I am a very poor player of this one.

 

Watch for the manual appearing in the next week or so after

http://atariage.com/forums/topic/248687-ti-99-docs-manuals-ebooks-lost-found/page-11?do=findComment&comment=4239382

 

regards

 

Stephen

 

 

 

 

pretty sure it's in the zip on whtech.. under cartridges/finalgrom

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Thanks, yes it is there, as PHM3219 - somehow I missed it! The manual will appear in a day or so as indicated above.

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I'm just starting to get back into the TI world...I grew up on the TI, after-market enhanced mine for years, but sadly gave it up to turn my TI room into a nursery when my daughter was born. My old system had OPAs TIM/SoB, though the latter overheated constantly unless a fan blew in through the back. I had a Horizon Ramdisk and/or PGram card (think both but it's been a few) and a CorComp TripleTech that moved my speech synth out and gave print buffer and clock cal. Anyhow...now I'm starting over. I have a console (non-QI) shipping out to me in the am, but I really don't see a need to go back down the PE-Box route. (Though wish I still had mine w/ all the goodies!)

 

My understanding is that the FinalGROM 99 is much less limited in terms of content and compatability (especially for carts that used GROMs) than the FlashROM 99, but at least in terms of images from original TI cartridges, the list posted here seems much richer on the FlashROM 99 side. And my understanding is that the two are incompatible.

 

I do plan to add the F18A MK2 as well as soon as that's available.

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I'm just starting to get back into the TI world...I grew up on the TI, after-market enhanced mine for years, but sadly gave it up to turn my TI room into a nursery when my daughter was born. My old system had OPAs TIM/SoB, though the latter overheated constantly unless a fan blew in through the back. I had a Horizon Ramdisk and/or PGram card (think both but it's been a few) and a CorComp TripleTech that moved my speech synth out and gave print buffer and clock cal. Anyhow...now I'm starting over. I have a console (non-QI) shipping out to me in the am, but I really don't see a need to go back down the PE-Box route. (Though wish I still had mine w/ all the goodies!)

 

My understanding is that the FinalGROM 99 is much less limited in terms of content and compatability (especially for carts that used GROMs) than the FlashROM 99, but at least in terms of images from original TI cartridges, the list posted here seems much richer on the FlashROM 99 side. And my understanding is that the two are incompatible.

 

I do plan to add the F18A MK2 as well as soon as that's available.

 

no they are totally compatable in that the fg99 will do anything the fr99 can do.. but you don't want to do what the fr99 did with GROM games you want to load the GROMs which are pretty much all on ftp.whtech.com under cartridges/finalgrom99.. I suggest you get a 32k side car and TIPI for your replacement of the PEB.. that gets you 32k ram expansion, disk drives and internet access via telnet or other applications.. also mouse .. lots of info in the pinned FAQ post.. if you haven't found that yet..

 

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no they are totally compatable in that the fg99 will do anything the fr99 can do.. but you don't want to do what the fr99 did with GROM games you want to load the GROMs which are pretty much all on ftp.whtech.com under cartridges/finalgrom99.. I suggest you get a 32k side car and TIPI for your replacement of the PEB.. that gets you 32k ram expansion, disk drives and internet access via telnet or other applications.. also mouse .. lots of info in the pinned FAQ post.. if you haven't found that yet..

 

Greg

 

 

Thanks! I have a FinalGROM99 on order and snagged the zip from wht. What was the dude's name from WHT? I remember chatting w/ him at a TI faire years back. the other guy that did crazy good software for TI was Mike M. (aka "Froggy" from his diving) from CTIUG.

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I'm just starting to get back into the TI world...I grew up on the TI, after-market enhanced mine for years, but sadly gave it up to turn my TI room into a nursery when my daughter was born. My old system had OPAs TIM/SoB, though the latter overheated constantly unless a fan blew in through the back. I had a Horizon Ramdisk and/or PGram card (think both but it's been a few) and a CorComp TripleTech that moved my speech synth out and gave print buffer and clock cal. Anyhow...now I'm starting over. I have a console (non-QI) shipping out to me in the am, but I really don't see a need to go back down the PE-Box route. (Though wish I still had mine w/ all the goodies!)

 

My understanding is that the FinalGROM 99 is much less limited in terms of content and compatability (especially for carts that used GROMs) than the FlashROM 99, but at least in terms of images from original TI cartridges, the list posted here seems much richer on the FlashROM 99 side. And my understanding is that the two are incompatible.

 

I do plan to add the F18A MK2 as well as soon as that's available.

 

It sounds like you are off to a very good start with the FinalGROM99. Considering you were a power user in the past, you may want to be one again, so might not want to lock yourself into a narrower path.

 

The sidecar TIPI route is much smaller to be sure, but from a dollars and sense angle might not be too far apart (price-wise) from a PEB if you plan on putting a case around the parts for protection. The good cases, with the 100 micron print will come to around $100.00 (before shipping) from Canada. With the side car version, you'll need to purchase the 32K sidecar(1), then you'll need to purchase the TIPI(2),then two power supplies(3) one for the Rpi, two cases(4,5) as well as the Rpi(6). With the cost of multiple shipping expenses on top of the assorted parts, it will still probably be cheaper than a PEB, but not as much as you think.

 

If you go the P-Box route, you'll eliminate the two cases and one power supply off the top, along with multiple postage and handling fees, but that savings may be eaten up by shipping one P-Box, but you'll retain the capability of future expansion like running a 1meg SAMS board instead of 32K, possibly getting another Triple Tech some day, (if you are very lucky)... or even using something that has not even come out yet.

 

Sorry to dump all that on you at once, but since you have not committed yet to a path yet, I thought one more perspective might be useful. In the final analysis, when it comes to the pre-shipping price between the sidecar TIPI hardware and the PEB version, it's only around $20.00 cheaper to go with the P-Box version, factor in the cases and you are into full blown P-Box prices. In the end, it's six of one and a half-dozen of the other on price, but one route gives you future expansion options.

 

Good luck! :thumbsup:

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It sounds like you are off to a very good start with the FinalGROM99. Considering you were a power user in the past, you may want to be one again, so might not want to lock yourself into a narrower path.

 

The sidecar TIPI route is much smaller to be sure, but from a dollars and sense angle might not be too far apart (price-wise) from a PEB if you plan on putting a case around the parts for protection. The good cases, with the 100 micron print will come to around $100.00 (before shipping) from Canada. With the side car version, you'll need to purchase the 32K sidecar(1), then you'll need to purchase the TIPI(2),then two power supplies(3) one for the Rpi, two cases(4,5) as well as the Rpi(6). With the cost of multiple shipping expenses on top of the assorted parts, it will still probably be cheaper than a PEB, but not as much as you think.

 

If you go the P-Box route, you'll eliminate the two cases and one power supply off the top, along with multiple postage and handling fees, but that savings may be eaten up by shipping one P-Box, but you'll retain the capability of future expansion like running a 1meg SAMS board instead of 32K, possibly getting another Triple Tech some day, (if you are very lucky)... or even using something that has not even come out yet.

 

Sorry to dump all that on you at once, but since you have not committed yet to a path yet, I thought one more perspective might be useful. In the final analysis, when it comes to the pre-shipping price between the sidecar TIPI hardware and the PEB version, it's only around $20.00 cheaper to go with the P-Box version, factor in the cases and you are into full blown P-Box prices. In the end, it's six of one and a half-dozen of the other on price, but one route gives you future expansion options.

 

Good luck! :thumbsup:

 

Yeah, cost-wise, minus shipping on the P-Box, it's about a wash. I already ordered the 32K sidecar and case, but have not yet pulled the plug on ordering the TIPI. For overall desk real-estate purposes, internet, and storage options, the TIPE route on top of 32K sidecar is attractive.

 

That said, I've never forgiven myself for letting my old system go (had a rare MBX for it too). It kills me to have to hunt and peck and pay more for stuff I already had. The only issues on my old system were the overheating problem on the SoB (anyone else have that same problem w/ TIM/SoB?) and the console-internal 32K I had from before I owned my P-Box (about 100 solder points on ribbon cable off the back of cartridge port go brittle over time...Bud Mills actually repaired that for me once back in the day).

 

IF at some point I pick up a P-Box again, whaat would I want in it today:

 

* Flex Card

* One of the quieter fan mods...probably

* Wonder how reliable those old power supplies are almost 40 years later?

* I'd want that old Myarc FDCC that let me run the 3 1/2" floppy...forget if it topped at 720K or 1.44 version...? But beyond that...most of what I ran on floppy back then would be a moot point.

* RS232...? debatable...not gonna run a printer off of it, and I haven't had a land line in years, so a modem is a moot point.

* Triple Tech...yeah...though now it'd be just about the speech synth...maybe the clock cal...again...not likely to use it or printing

* TIPI-for PEB...yeah...like that idea!

* Horizon RAMDisk/PGram cards...don't see a need for those with FinalGROM99

* F18A MK2 in P-Box form factor kind of like the old Dijit card did for vide? Kind of an intriguing idea, though that one still required jumping the 9918 to sleep if I'm not mistaken. (My TIM/SoB was in socket replace of VDP and Groms 0 & 1 (1 &2?)

 

What other cool P-Box cards have come out in recent years? That 1 meg SAMS board might be cool...how reliable vs flaky is that w/ memory maps, etc?

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IF at some point I pick up a P-Box again, what would I want in it today:

 

* Flex Card

* One of the quieter fan mods...probably

* Wonder how reliable those old power supplies are almost 40 years later?

* I'd want that old Myarc FDCC that let me run the 3 1/2" floppy...forget if it topped at 720K or 1.44 version...? But beyond that...most of what I ran on floppy back then would be a moot point.

* RS232...? debatable...not gonna run a printer off of it, and I haven't had a land line in years, so a modem is a moot point.

* Triple Tech...yeah...though now it'd be just about the speech synth...maybe the clock cal...again...not likely to use it or printing

* TIPI-for PEB...yeah...like that idea!

* Horizon RAMDisk/PGram cards...don't see a need for those with FinalGROM99

* F18A MK2 in P-Box form factor kind of like the old Dijit card did for vide? Kind of an intriguing idea, though that one still required jumping the 9918 to sleep if I'm not mistaken. (My TIM/SoB was in socket replace of VDP and Groms 0 & 1 (1 &2?)

 

What other cool P-Box cards have come out in recent years? That 1 meg SAMS board might be cool...how reliable vs flaky is that w/ memory maps, etc?

 

Flex card goes without saying.

Fan mod, agreed!

RS-232, yeah with a TIPI... why?

You're spot on with the FinalGROM assessment.

F18A MK2, yup, especially if you don't already have an F18A.

 

I've not heard of any complaints whatsoever from users with a 1Meg SAMS card when it comes to functionally, for all intents and purposes they appear well built and perfect.

Software for it is another issue, and many people don't know how to utilize the extra memory.

 

Good luck getting you hands on a Myarc FDCC without paying through the nose, but with a TIPI, why? I think you'd be better off with a modified TI FDC because of price and the fact that the TIPI would probably be your primary storage anyway. There may be some software you might want to run off of DSK1, but that is probably limited.

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Flex card goes without saying.

Fan mod, agreed!

RS-232, yeah with a TIPI... why?

You're spot on with the FinalGROM assessment.

F18A MK2, yup, especially if you don't already have an F18A.

 

I've not heard of any complaints whatsoever from users with a 1Meg SAMS card when it comes to functionally, for all intents and purposes they appear well built and perfect.

Software for it is another issue, and many people don't know how to utilize the extra memory.

 

Good luck getting you hands on a Myarc FDCC without paying through the nose, but with a TIPI, why? I think you'd be better off with a modified TI FDC because of price and the fact that the TIPI would probably be your primary storage anyway. There may be some software you might want to run off of DSK1, but that is probably limited.

Thanks for the tips! Yeah..I ended up going that route. It wasnt going to feel like my old TI w/o the P-Box, and I like some of the other stuff that opens up. So ended up working with Greg at arcardeshopper who kindly let me convert/upgrade my order to 1MB SAMS and TIPI-PEB, and I pulled the trigger on the P-Box from pfleeman on eBay - hes on here too, so this aint some random ebay-er with zero TI love. This is 99er to 99er, which is great.

 

But no worries, JediMatt! This was for no lack of love for you sidecar. Cant wait to use PEB version of TIPI, and as soon as you have that F18A MK2 ready count me in!

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On SAMS boards, I run all of them through some pretty extensive burn-in tests before I put a serial number on them (and I've built about 70 of them so far, so I have a lot of experience with the board). I also provide useful assembly tips to those who buy the bare boards, making it one of a small number of hardware items with current support (and small number is in comparison to all of the items ever produced for the TI, as almost all of the newer hardware items produced in the last ten years or so are supported to a greater or lesser extent by their designers--and that is a VERY good thing). And yes--I supply boards to Arcadeshopper. :)

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But no worries, JediMatt! This was for no lack of love for you sidecar. Cant wait to use PEB version of TIPI, and as soon as you have that F18A MK2 ready count me in!

 

This is a very active forum, so for a newbie I understand how it can be a little confusing at first with so many people to keep track of...

 

JediMatt42 also known as [email protected] does the 32K expansion and the TIPI

Matthew180 also known as Matthew is associated (as the creator) of the F18A and F18A MK2.

 

... hope that helps!

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On SAMS boards, I run all of them through some pretty extensive burn-in tests before I put a serial number on them (and I've built about 70 of them so far, so I have a lot of experience with the board). I also provide useful assembly tips to those who buy the bare boards, making it one of a small number of hardware items with current support (and small number is in comparison to all of the items ever produced for the TI, as almost all of the newer hardware items produced in the last ten years or so are supported to a greater or lesser extent by their designers--and that is a VERY good thing). And yes--I supply boards to Arcadeshopper. :)

Those who’ve been in the TI game this long love the machine and the community and the care and diligence shows. So excited to be coming back...kicking myself for letting all my equipment go, but I was a young, soon to be dad in a very small place.

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This is a very active forum, so for a newbie I understand how it can be a little confusing at first with so many people to keep track of...

 

JediMatt42 also known as [email protected] does the 32K expansion and the TIPI

Matthew180 also known as Matthew is associated (as the creator) of the F18A and F18A MK2.

 

... hope that helps!

Yes...was confusing the two Matt’s - thx! Enjoying getting to know everyone. I was always the young one at TI events...I was 11-12 going to my local TIUG in a Detroit suburb when I first got my rig, and it was mostly all adults. I remember when I saved enough paper route/alllowance money to buy my first speech synth and one of the commands didn’t work as documented. I worried it was defective. That was when you could still call TI CARES for a few after it was orphaned. My mom drove me to some TI office - maybe Farmington [Hills], MI or somewhere...just remember brown building along the freeway, and here I was as this young kid working w/ a TI engineer to get it working - ended up being a simple syntax issue that wasn’t clear in the docs. Anyhow...I’m seeing some familiar names and some new ones...thanks for the warm welcome back into the community I so love.

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Easy Bug & Mini Memory

(FinalGROM 99 Required) (Does NOT require memory expansion)

I don't have a finalgrom yet, so these may seem like silly questions:

1. When using the Mini memory cart through finalgrom, can the user still save to it a small program, like the original?

2. Do you still get the added 4k memory bonus this way?

3. Are there any caveats / "gotcha's" to using mini memory through finalgrom that would make a physical mini memory cart more desirable?

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I don't have a finalgrom yet, so these may seem like silly questions:

1. When using the Mini memory cart through finalgrom, can the user still save to it a small program, like the original?

2. Do you still get the added 4k memory bonus this way?

3. Are there any caveats / "gotcha's" to using mini memory through finalgrom that would make a physical mini memory cart more desirable?

 

yes, yes, no

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yes, yes, no

 

Yeah, the FG99 is killing my investment in Mini Memory cartridges ;)

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/personal opinion mode on

 

Yeah, I think the FG99 is killing the sales of a lot of cartridges. I'm sure collectors and those with nostalgia for certain cartridges will continue to drive some sales, but for the people who know about the FG99, it's getting harder and harder to justify buying cartridges, especially at the prices some people are asking. In some cases simply buying a half-dozen cartrides can exceed the cost of a single FinalGROM. With so many of those programs available for download here, for free, it's sort of a no-brainer.

 

/personal opinion mode off

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I don't have a finalgrom yet, so these may seem like silly questions:

1. When using the Mini memory cart through finalgrom, can the user still save to it a small program, like the original?

2. Do you still get the added 4k memory bonus this way?

3. Are there any caveats / "gotcha's" to using mini memory through finalgrom that would make a physical mini memory cart more desirable?

 

3. I'm pretty sure programs saved in the FG99 minimem won't survive a reset.

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/personal opinion mode on

 

Yeah, I think the FG99 is killing the sales of a lot of cartridges. I'm sure collectors and those with nostalgia for certain cartridges will continue to drive some sales, but for the people who know about the FG99, it's getting harder and harder to justify buying cartridges, especially at the prices some people are asking. In some cases simply buying a half-dozen cartrides can exceed the cost of a single FinalGROM. With so many of those programs available for download here, for free, it's sort of a no-brainer.

 

/personal opinion mode off

my hope is that the FG99 will true up the market some, but i think im overly optimistic. looking for something else this morning i saw a CIB copy of Zero Zap for $35, lol.

 

i held on to a very few carts that either had nostalgic/sentimental value or I simply like using the physical copies better- Ti Extended Basic, Editor/Assembler, Mini Memory, Terminal Emulator II, ZeroZap (shush), Adventure, Tunnels of Doom, etc. I held onto my Bigfoot cart because of the same and it seems to play a little better on my machine than the ROM from the FG99.

 

Less is more for me, especially with limited space- as much as I love my babies, I don't get a lot of enjoyment out of them if they're in a plastic tote in my bedroom floor. I really get a kick out of seeing other folks enjoy the stuff as much as I do.

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I don't have a finalgrom yet, so these may seem like silly questions:

1. When using the Mini memory cart through finalgrom, can the user still save to it a small program, like the original?

2. Do you still get the added 4k memory bonus this way?

3. Are there any caveats / "gotcha's" to using mini memory through finalgrom that would make a physical mini memory cart more desirable?

 

Be careful once you do get the FG99, as some of the Mini Memory Modules included have been modified, and don't have any RAM, but inspite of no RAM one does have an EA opt5 loader (for what-ever-that's-worth).

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