Gregory DG #1 Posted April 27, 2003 When I saw this I immediately thought of the Jaguar... http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...mn_pluggedin_dc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stone #4 Posted April 28, 2003 I loved the way they explained 64-bit processors without mentioning the word 'binary' once Stone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LinkoVitch #5 Posted April 28, 2003 I loved the way they explained 64-bit processors without mentioning the word 'binary' once Stone Thats because binary is a 2 bit processor DUH! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eric_ruck #6 Posted April 28, 2003 While personally I hope there's a rush to upgrade (my company builds PC's for our clients -- union-made PC, anyone?) the amount of software out there to use 64 bits will be about zero for awhile. I guess a couple of companies are supporting Linux on 64 bit architectures, so they will make damn fine web and database servers. Of course, the next version of Doom will probably require an Opteron. Eric Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LinkoVitch #7 Posted April 28, 2003 While personally I hope there's a rush to upgrade (my company builds PC's for our clients -- union-made PC, anyone?) the amount of software out there to use 64 bits will be about zero for awhile. I guess a couple of companies are supporting Linux on 64 bit architectures, so they will make damn fine web and database servers. Of course, the next version of Doom will probably require an Opteron. Eric I am part dreading and looking forward to it. We run several Solaris boxes at work, some quite nice powerful ones. They typically have 64 bit CPU's but the ocde tends to be 32bit. I had the bright idea of getting the code 64 bit. Some apps are just a complete nightmare to compile 64 bit! All sorts of strange errors and bugs turn up. But I suppose with more 64 bit CPU's in circulation the code should get better aquainted and work better so it will be a good thing eventually Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheBizDude #8 Posted April 28, 2003 Most PC manufacturers have had the ability to support 64-bit wide peripheral cards for several years now. Not many PCI cards are available in the expanded form factor, yet the slots have been there waiting for them - strange. The bottle neck of most systems is still the front side bus. It will be several years before FSB's can take advantage of the widened data path. I can always say that I've been playing 64-bit video games for 10 years now! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LinkoVitch #9 Posted April 28, 2003 Most PC manufacturers have had the ability to support 64-bit wide peripheral cards for several years now. Not many PCI cards are available in the expanded form factor, yet the slots have been there waiting for them - strange. The bottle neck of most systems is still the front side bus. It will be several years before FSB's can take advantage of the widened data path. I can always say that I've been playing 64-bit video games for 10 years now! Really? 90% of the mobo's I have seen especially for the home market only feature 32 bit PCI slots. I know this as the high end servers at work do have 64 bit PCI slots which are about twice the length. TBH there are very few cases where a home user needs that much bandwidth anyway. Perhaps GFX cards would benifit from it most of all. All the periperals that I have seen have been RAID controllers and GigE cards that use 64 bit wide PCI. Though with the way technology is going it wouldn't suprise me if home users were using 64 bit in a few years Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Video #10 Posted April 29, 2003 Well, considering PC's are currently out preforming the hardware anyways, and most the software, unless it's simply poorly written, I don't know what kind of impact a 64 bit chip would have. Sure, some diehards will say "gotta have it, gimme gimme" But many people will have no use for it. What I really see the 64 bit chips being used for is these all in one motherboards that are flooding the market. The 64 bit processor woud allow them to further integrate video and sound. Maybe we'll see a chips sized PC on mass market someday soon? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LinkoVitch #11 Posted April 29, 2003 What I really see the 64 bit chips being used for is these all in one motherboards that are flooding the market. The 64 bit processor woud allow them to further integrate video and sound. Maybe we'll see a chips sized PC on mass market someday soon? Perhaps chips that you could take the sides off and add new hardware too! that would rule... oh wait.. hang on... I can just see that happaening I think keeping it modular will be best.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brian R. #12 Posted April 29, 2003 They explained it without using the word "binary" because it's for a general audience and not everyone would understand it. And this thing with AMD releasing a 64 bit processor and Intel not reminds me of Sega and Nintendo and the 8-bit/16-bit thing. Nintendo figured gamers wouldn't need any more than 8 bits, but the Sega released the 16-bit Genesis. And the rest is history. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites