SainT Posted May 13, 2019 Author Share Posted May 13, 2019 I just watched this video And I see a RED FLAG immediately. On the menu interface, up and down on the D-pad scrolls through games............... good! Pressing left and right on the D-pad lets you see more text in the file names............. bad. This should happen automatically if you let the selection idle on the game for a few seconds. Holding the A button down and pressing left and right and up and down goes to new letter in alphabet and turns pages........... strange. The way its supposed to work is as follows: Up and Down on D-pad scrolls through games vertically Left and Right on D-pad goes to the next page Right goes to the next page going forward, Left goes back to the previous page backwards. It's literally this simple. If you look at the everdrives line of flashcarts this is how these work. I don't know how something so simple can get messed up like this. Also, having cartridge games separated from CD games in my opinion is unnecessary. All you have to do is make a separate folder and stick all of the CD games in there if you really want. I support this project, but please make left and right turn the pages of the list of games on the interface. Noted. I'm ashamed of myself. I will go and beat myself with the pain stick until the shame has gone. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42bs Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 OMG, UI design is always something to discuss about, but "red flag"? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vintagemoose Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 We're taking the mickey here but without a good interface how are we going to navigate all those games that were released for the Jag ... ohhh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42bs Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Noted. I'm ashamed of myself. I will go and beat myself with the pain stick until the shame has gone. But, please wait having this kind of fun until we got our card 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmora Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 I don't know how someone can breathe while pressing two buttons at the same time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saboteur Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Holy Crap, what a gaff. But it gets worse, how come I even have to touch the jagpad at all ? why the f*** doesn't it just read my mind and automatcally load up an play the game i'm thinking about. Saint, I can't believe you didn't consider this, consequently oxfordshire is going to annexe gloucestershire and impose daily administration of the pain stick - and it's all your fault. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+CyranoJ Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 The last time Final Theory posted was to piss off _Orion, so I think we have a 200% confirmed troll account here. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredifredo Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 what is a RED FART ? Sorry my french translator not working hell ... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+BitJag Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 In defense of the A+left/right for page flipping. Anyone who has used a standard jag controller for any length of time knows how easy it is to accidentally pressed left and right when the intention was up or down. Locking left or right behind a button press is wise in my opinion, even if its believed to be common convention. I do like the idea of an auto scroll on the name though. Also, nothing like a good pain stick every once in a while... Time to turn on my Jag. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SainT Posted May 13, 2019 Author Share Posted May 13, 2019 In defense of the A+left/right for page flipping. Anyone who has used a standard jag controller for any length of time knows how easy it is to accidentally pressed left and right when the intention was up or down. Locking left or right behind a button press is wise in my opinion, even if its believed to be common convention. I do like the idea of an auto scroll on the name though. Also, nothing like a good pain stick every once in a while... Time to turn on my Jag. I'll just have things like autoscroll as an option. Everyone has their own preferences, and I'm not going to force mine upon others if I can avoid it with simple options like this. As long as options screens don't give me a RED FLAG? I'll wait for confirmation it's OK before adding anything like that. I can't take any more of the pain stick right now. I can barely sit. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42bs Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 In defense of the A+left/right for page flipping. Anyone who has used a standard jag controller for any length of time knows how easy it is to accidentally pressed left and right when the intention was up or down. Locking left or right behind a button press is wise in my opinion, even if its believed to be common convention. I do like the idea of an auto scroll on the name though. Also, nothing like a good pain stick every once in a while... Time to turn on my Jag. I guess the UI will evolve and can be updated once there is some user feedback. And maybe SainT will open the API, so everyone can write hers/his own super-UI with all possibles whistles and bells. But I fear, mind-reading is totally out of scope for the Jag (though as programmer on the Jag I believe it can ...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoTheMath Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 I'll just have things like autoscroll as an option. Everyone has their own preferences, and I'm not going to force mine upon others if I can avoid it with simple options like this. As long as options screens don't give me a RED FLAG? I'll wait for confirmation it's OK before adding anything like that. I can't take any more of the pain stick right now. I can barely sit. The Saint has spoketh! Praise be the Pain Stick! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinkoVitch Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 But I fear, mind-reading is totally out of scope for the Jag (though as programmer on the Jag I believe it can ...) Hey stop lying to people! as a programmer you know full well that mind reading is a core feature of the Jag coder: OK I make this simple change.. Jaguar (reading coders mind):.. I see what you want me to do, that makes perfect sense.. here you go.. enjoy BLANK SCREEN MUWHAHAHAHA They're right evil buggers! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+thanatos Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 The way its supposed to work is as follows: Who made you lord of flash cart menu operation standards? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoTheMath Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Who made you lord of flash cart menu operation standards? The pain stick obviously Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 All this talk of pain sticks has got me hankering for playing Club Drive. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42bs Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 :-) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 (edited) Ha, on the note of the mind-reading. I had read at one point in time, Atari were working on a mind-reading controller. I believe they actually managed to get it to move a cursor around, but that was the extent of it. I'll have to try to remember where I read that at. http://www.atarimuseum.com/videogames/consoles/2600/mindlink.html Edited May 13, 2019 by leech 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samson7point1 Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Ha, on the note of the mind-reading. I had read at one point in time, Atari were working on a mind-reading controller. I believe they actually managed to get it to move a cursor around, but that was the extent of it. I'll have to try to remember where I read that at. http://www.atarimuseum.com/videogames/consoles/2600/mindlink.html I'm not sure about the progress Atari made on the technology, but I do know it wound up in actual products and somewhat works: https://www.amazon.com/Mattel-P2639-Mindflex-Game/dp/B001UEUHCG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 According to the article, they had several working prototypes. Would have been amazing to see the tech be progressed. But then again, how long can you flex your forehead skin without it being mighty uncomfortable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P1r Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 That's it. I don't want one now that this news is out. What a crying shame. Can I have your place on the preorder list? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoTheMath Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Can I have your place on the preorder list? This list is supposed to be secret... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinkoVitch Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 This list is supposed to be secret... Bring forth the pain stick! We have to perform a paining!!! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amerika Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 (edited) Haha, I came here to comment on that jerk's post. But it would appear my comment is necessary so bravo to you community and extra kudos to Saint for rolling with it. I do actually agree somewhat with some of what the guy is saying. Left/right paging is pretty common in most menus of these types (not just flash carts but in general) but it's definitely not even close to a RED FLAG at all. Separate menus for cart/CD is actually kind of confusing as well for anybody who has used the SSDS3 rather than just using a folder. So despite how his message was conveyed, there is a bit of merit to some of it. However, that guy can go to hell though. Edited May 13, 2019 by Amerika 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+eebuckeye Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 I kind of like having the CD game listed separately but obviously no big deal either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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