Madi Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 In my continue of searching for a good Atari file management program, I have approached Mike the author of the C64-Archiv. http://www.purmike.de/documents/c64archiv_en.html I asked him if he is willing to port his famous software archive program for C4 or make a similar one for ATARI. I am happy that he took my request seriously and positively. I believe that with the usual help and support from Atariage community, we will have an excellent file management for Atari computers. As far as I know, Mike has already have a username: purmike Let us give purmike a warm Welcome to Atari community. madi 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purmike Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 (edited) Hi, I hope to release in a couple of days a beta version. Unfortunately the Atari-Archiv only runs under win. Until now there is support for the emulators Altirra, Atarii++ and Atari800. To support Atari800Win (4.1) I need more informations about the command line params. I know the params are similiar to Atari800. But I cannot find a special list (the param "-help" doesn't work). Does anybody know something about it? Edited August 10, 2016 by purmike 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentarian Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 A big Atari welcome to you! Looking forward to trying this and better organizing my Atari files. One option I would like to see is to also interface or be a front-end to RespeQt -- to automatically mount an ATR or XEX/BIN to D1: and boot on real Atari hardware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 (edited) Yay...Something wonderful and new for the Atari...Welcome Purmike...All coding and help extremely appreciated... As a part of the ream involved in making the Gamepack in my sig I can say any databasing addition is greatly wanted... Paul... Edited August 10, 2016 by Mclaneinc 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madi Posted August 10, 2016 Author Share Posted August 10, 2016 Welcome purmike to Atari community. I bet you, you have been working very hard during the last few weeks at the new project and for that, we appreciate the great efforts you are putting in. With regards to the command line switches , I am not aware of such list in existence. I tried to search for some info but with little use. But I think that ATARI800 switches can be used by ATARI800WIN plus (at least most of them) either by creating a front line application or use the Windows Command prompt to pass them. I tested several of the switches by my self successfully e,.g Atari800Win.exe -atari <filename> Atari800Win.exe -run <filename> Atari800Win.exe -basic_rom <filename> Atari800Win.exe -cart <filename> Also, find attached, a text file of command lists used by Atari800. Thank you once again madi Startup Switches for atari800.txt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 (edited) Hi, I hope to release in a couple of days a beta version. Unfortunately the Atari-Archiv only runs under win. Until now there is support for the emulators Altirra, Atarii++ and Atari800. To support Atari800Win (4.1) I need more informations about the command line params. I know the params are similiar to Atari800. But I cannot find a special list (the param "-help" doesn't work). Does anybody know something about it? Atari-Archiv 1.0beta.jpg Have a look at this file, there the Command line uses in there with the usual - usage .. I think there's more but even as a beta tester for it I've not used it in years, Altirra is the most advanced emulator out there... Atari800Win.txt Edited August 10, 2016 by Mclaneinc 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purmike Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 (edited) Thanks for your help! Thats right. Most of the switches from Atari800 can be used by Atari800Win. I am wondering why there isn't an "official" description... A big Atari welcome to you! Looking forward to trying this and better organizing my Atari files. One option I would like to see is to also interface or be a front-end to RespeQt -- to automatically mount an ATR or XEX/BIN to D1: and boot on real Atari hardware. There are already exist programms to automatically mount and boot files on a real atari? With the Atari-Archiv you can start every programm with command line arguments. I could check if its possible... Edited August 11, 2016 by purmike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 (edited) A.P.E, AspeQt, RespQt and Atari810 are all PC programs to simulate real Atari drives and boot from the PC to real Atari hardware with a special SIO2PC RS232 or USB adapters. Atarians have enjoyed this ability since the late 80's or early 90's. A.P.E even has Prosystem app with it that allows you to write ATR images back to a real Atari disk drive or real disks to ATR images, with the special 1050toPC adapter. There are also ways to do this with SIO2PC adapters apps too, but they are more convoluted. Edited August 11, 2016 by Gunstar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jugac64 Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Mike is a very nice guy, I sent him some suggestions for the C64 version and he implemented all of them! he is very good software developer. It is great he is porting C64-Archiv to the Atari 8bit platform. Hi Mike! Juan from lemon64 forum. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purmike Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Juan, nice to meet you again . Although I have less time I hope to create a useful program to manage Atari files. The first (beta) version is now available:http://www.purmike.de/downloads/AtariArchivSetup.zip I have tested the version with XP and win 7 64. Please report all bugs. Thanks for testing! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 AHa, I just clicked who you are, I used the C64 version and wrote to you a few times regarding the speed it took with massive file numbers, admittedly I was throwing 200-300 thousand files and it was not a happy bunny Will give the C64 version another shot incase it was my system at fault... Lovely software though... Thanks for adding the Atari to it... Paul.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purmike Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 (edited) Yes, I remember the problem with a huge number of files. I have already started working on a faster version... Please try the menu "Compress database at exit" (this will take a while) and limit the files with custom filters. I hope this will reduce loading time.. I think for Atari compared to the C64 there isn't such amount of stuff, isn't it? Edited August 16, 2016 by purmike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Thankfully enough to merit a database but not too many to be a pain in the bum to manage But the more the merrier.. I'll give the C64 one another go re the compress.. Thanks, Paul... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madi Posted August 16, 2016 Author Share Posted August 16, 2016 Thank you purmike I have downloaded the software and had a quick testing of the features and capabilities. My initial impression is great "WOW". At last, Atari world will have a decent file archival and manager that everyone can enjoy. We know that it is in the beta vase and much more is expected. Still, I expect "with hope" that our Atari expert programmers/developers to look at it and come up with comments/suggestions. I am aware that Mclaneinc was actively involved in the Atari Best Game Pack database. Paul, your input and feedback is greatly appreciated . @Mike, I just sent you my initial feedback. madi 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Thanks Madi but I don't want to steal Starwindz thunder here, all database design was his alone, I didn't even know of its existence then but I offered all the direct technical advice on how to make things work on Altirra and lots of feature advice that thankfully made it on to the program, Starwindz kindly named me as a team member and we continued to collaborate and became good friends, he's a really nice guy... I do what I've done on many emulators over the years, ask for features, beta test anything that I understand and offer positive criticism and as much help as I can.. I'm not super tech but I know what is interesting and useful (mostly) and emulator authors have mostly agreed which is nice As seen I've talked to Purmike before and he's been a really nice person and looked at emails and helped loads, I'll be happy to ask for stuff but all you guys pitch in and help the author but I have to say the C64 version is nigh on perfect, he's spot on the ball and just needs any fine tuning you guys can think of... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madi Posted August 17, 2016 Author Share Posted August 17, 2016 . . I do what I've done on many emulators over the years, ask for features, beta test anything that I understand and offer positive criticism and as much help as I can.. I'm not super tech but I know what is interesting and useful (mostly) and emulator authors have mostly agreed which is nice Fair enough. Let me thank you for your positive wording. I had no intention to drag you into the project. May be my humble English language did not help me to express what i wanted to say. I was looking mainly for your usual "Positive Criticism" and fruitful input. The same is politely requested from all respected Atari members in this beloved site. regards madi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 No, don't get me wrong, I'm more than happy to pass on anything to help the software and had been doing so on its C64 counterpart already, I just didn't want people to think I made the Gamepack, I have done work on it but the programming code for the gamepack side is Starwindz and his alone, he's the clever one out of the two of us So Madi, I'm already in and hope like you that many of us offer our thoughts to Purmike to help him make the database the best possible Sorry for any language confusion, just because I speak English does not mean I do it well Thanks Paul... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purmike Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 There is a new version (http://www.purmike.de/downloads/AtariArchivSetup.zip) with the following changes: - New supported file tyes: CAR, DOC, LST- Improved preview of text files (ascii at the moment)- Fixed: Problem with the temporary folder- Fixed: Wrong translation in some windowsMadi, thanks a lot for your suggestions and your help to test the program! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k1w1 Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 This looks fantastic purmike. Thanks for taking the time to contribute to the Atari community. Just wondering why there is no support for ATX ? Behind ATR and CAS, that would be the most abundant of formats and is likely to increase over time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k1w1 Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 Just one more thing. The program crashes when it tries to import a file with accent mark punctuation e.g. "Inny świat (1995)(Mirage Software)(PL)" or "Geografia świata (1992-09)(Krysal Software)(PL)(Side A)". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purmike Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 I try to implement the ATX format in one of the next versions. I can recognize the problem with files with accent mark punctuation. But the program displays "Invalid Atariv file" without crashing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purmike Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 ...the problem is fixed with the new version 1.3:- New: Support for file type ATX- Fixed: Error while importing an unicode path- Fixed: Incomplete display of text files with 0 bytesNote: With XP and in some parts of the program unicode filenames will be displayed with ansii characters any longer AtariArchivSetup.zip 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Very nice, tried to overload it with files and it handled it all perfectly, no lag like I got on the early C64 version....Brilliant.. Might be nice to have a delete DB or a select all option for the files if you make a bad db, I know its lazy but having all the option within a program make it better. I know its meant to be a DB only but is there or could there be an option to link a screen shot to a file? Love it tho..... Thank you, Paul... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purmike Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Very nice, tried to overload it with files and it handled it all perfectly, no lag like I got on the early C64 version....Brilliant.. Might be nice to have a delete DB or a select all option for the files if you make a bad db, I know its lazy but having all the option within a program make it better. I know its meant to be a DB only but is there or could there be an option to link a screen shot to a file? Love it tho..... Thank you, Paul... Thanks for your suggestions which I have added in the version 1.4: - New: There are 3 possibilities to link a screenshot file: You can select a grafic file from the database You can select a grafic file from the explorer You can select a screenshot path with a folder structure like gamebase: - Screenshot path\0\Files starting with a number (0-9) - Screenshot path\A\Files starting with 'A' - Screenshot path\B\..... - New: Function "Select all items" - Fixed: In the view "History" sometimes items displayed with wrong dates AtariArchivSetup.zip 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Thank you for adding those, going to give it the ultimate test, to DB my totally all over the place collection, if it reads all of it in and does not fallover from how fragmented it is then it gets the gold star Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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