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Actually this sounds very sensible to use the 3DS hardware.

 

Everything is there and jsut need retweaking for HDMI output.

 

This make the possibility to add a SD port even more likely. The question will be then, will Nintendo lock the possibility to add it? A SD port is only good if the firmware of the system can acess it. If Nintendo think about modding, they can program the firmware to accept nothing but the 30 listed games and to refuse external medias.

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Actually this sounds very sensible to use the 3DS hardware.

 

Everything is there and jsut need retweaking for HDMI output.

 

This make the possibility to add a SD port even more likely. The question will be then, will Nintendo lock the possibility to add it? A SD port is only good if the firmware of the system can acess it. If Nintendo think about modding, they can program the firmware to accept nothing but the 30 listed games and to refuse external medias.

 

 

Or reflash the firmware. Or get a usb hub. Split the one usb port in the back. One port to power the device. And in the other add a usb sd card reader. If it can be hacked to add sd card then no more need for power pak or ever drive.

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If you're considering clone GB hardware, I'd also think about the K101. It's sideways like the original GBA, and plays GBA games, both on ROM and on cartridge. I'm not sure if it can do GB/GBC cartridges, but it can certainly emulate them. http://www.k1gbasp.com

 

Or I just got a DS Lite and flash cart. No need for another device.

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Or reflash the firmware. Or get a usb hub. Split the one usb port in the back. One port to power the device. And in the other add a usb sd card reader. If it can be hacked to add sd card then no more need for power pak or ever drive.

Sure, but reflashing it is a more complex and lenghty process. I guess it can be done, but unless the emulation is really top notch, I think it will be more profitable to go for another, ready made solution...

for the USB, I'm ready to bet that the USB port is used for power only, like on the Wii U pro controller, that transmit zero data from the port (so you can't use it on PC, which sucks).

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I'm sure if you ask GameStop about it, they'll tell you they're only getting 3 in, and two are pre-ordered so you'd best put money down now, and would you like to join their rewards club and get a free subscription to Game Informer Magazine.

If two of the three are spoken for already, that means that, lucky you, you get to have the gut.

 

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Why am I so excited about this? .... oh I see .....

HDMI out, hopefully it starts a trend.
WiiMote expansion connector .... ditto, I like how they charge only 10US$ for the extra controller (take that MK) .... or you can use your Classic/ClassicPro ... that's nice.
Palm size, literally .... yeah cut all that extra plastic please, it's not the real thing of old anyway!!!
Very nice selection of games ..... probably only the big N would manage to line up Konami, Taito, Bandai Namco, Koei Tecmo and Square .... awesomesauce!!!!!
[the list of TM owners is only shown on the UK website for some reason ... those pesky EU regulations]

Ohhhh and if we are to trust the pictures on nintendo.com and nintendo.co.uk the 2 versions have different boxes, and the name too, Nintendo Classic Mini, NES Classic Edition .... oh yeah!!!!

I still want to see the Jap version of it? Or is it only for us westerners because the japanese can't give two craps about it?

EDIT: those pesky aussies got it one day earlier as in Nov 10 or is it? Are they not 1 day late :twisted: nintendo.com.au

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So Nintendo even acknoledged that the US and Europe called it differently, as it was discussed in another thread... cool!

 

And I see that the pad box bear writing in English and French (For use with : Pour : ) it really is like the old days!

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Or reflash the firmware. Or get a usb hub. Split the one usb port in the back. One port to power the device. And in the other add a usb sd card reader. If it can be hacked to add sd card then no more need for power pak or ever drive.

 

They've already confirmed that there was no external storage options for the device. That means that the USB port only has the power line connected to anything. No data can pass through it to the system's internals.

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Yeah, this would make the most sense, only power on the USB, no data. I don't get where people are getting the notion this will have wii or 3ds hardware inside, as if Nintendo doesn't have hardware engineers and has to recycle their old inventions so they can play ancient games. You're not going to be flashing the firmware on this, nor will you be able to "hack in" an SD cart slot. The Atari Flashback 2 was "hackable" because it was designed that way. This won't be.

 

I also find it strange that the news media is all over the "news" that this will only have the built in games, and no cartridges or Internet access. Why would anyone think otherwise?

 

As for Australia getting it a day early, thank the positioning of the international date line for that. If you want to get iPhone apps early, open a New Zealand account.

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I guarantee they learned from the Wii Mini, and know how to make a system without the capacity for ANY storage medium to be attached to the system.

 

In fact, that's basically what this is. A Wii Mini that doesn't play Wii games, and has a limp form of VC installed on it. Tada! No thanks...

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,,,,

 

In fact, that's basically what this is. A Wii Mini that doesn't play Wii games, and has a limp form of VC installed on it. Tada! No thanks...

And you know this how?

Keep in mind that an ARM SoC can cost less than 10US$ for a quad core these days, emu SW they had it for long time (VC like you say on all their consoles, on Wii since 2006) .... so inside it can be whatever they need to be. Why use an old IBM processor and pay a royalty when they can simply shop for a complete ARM SoC cheaper with all that's needed.

 

Only time will tell, we'll see what it is.

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And you know this how?

Keep in mind that an ARM SoC can cost less than 10US$ for a quad core these days, emu SW they had it for long time (VC like you say on all their consoles, on Wii since 2006) .... so inside it can be whatever they need to be. Why use an old IBM processor and pay a royalty when they can simply shop for a complete ARM SoC cheaper with all that's needed.

 

Only time will tell, we'll see what it is.

 

I'm not saying literally a wii inside. My point is that it's LIKE a Wii Mini, with no Wii support, with a gimp version of VC on it.

 

IE: It has no data USB. It has no SD card slot that can be used. It uses Wiimote port tech. It can't play Wii games.

 

IE: This is an overly locked down trinket, and really nothing more. You can get yourself a used Wii with box for the same price and expand your world 10 fold. Everyone is saying 60 is cheap, but I beg to differ. This is a joke. If the VC didn't exist, sure.. I'd agree it's a nice service. But they already have a significantly better services on a significantly better system all for less price used.

 

Let's all just be honest here. You're buying it because it looks like a toaster and it might be collectable.

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Even if given a free Wii, you'd spend much more than this just to get all these games off its Virtual Console. This $60 box has $150 of Virtual Console content inside of it and has features that the Wii didn't offer like HDMI output, upscaling, save states (Versus suspend states that couldn't be reloaded), and likely more such as perhaps a more accurate color palette.

 

It's quite a good deal financially.

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I don't know how anyone could think this machine isn't worth every dime. The product is aimed at people who don't have other means to play the games PLUS the fact they know that hardcore fans will want one just 'cause. The games are fantastic and they even included third party. With HDMI and what I assume will have to be quality built Nintendo controllers, they're so far ahead of the shitty Flashbacks that they're literally making them look like garbage in comparison. Not only do you get the 30 games, but a neat physical product that people love so much AND a Wii/Wii U compatible NES controller. It's a bargain.

 

I'm hoping that this sells well to parents who grew up with Nintendo buying the console for their small children because as we all know, today's home gaming landscape is leaving kids in the dust. This is a perfect, easy starter console for a child, too. We could literally see children in 2036 saying how the NES was their first console, too, in a roundabout way.

 

I think it's a brilliant move for a company who, in semi-dire straits (not saying they aren't loaded financially) who might finally be catching up with the times.

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Even if given a free Wii, you'd spend much more than this just to get all these games off its Virtual Console. This $60 box has $150 of Virtual Console content inside of it and has features that the Wii didn't offer like HDMI output, upscaling, save states (Versus suspend states that couldn't be reloaded), and likely more such as perhaps a more accurate color palette.

 

It's quite a good deal financially.

Where did you read this is offering save states.

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Like 95% of what we know about this device besides a handful of questions asked in an interview that was linked to earlier in this thread, it's from the initial press release that was posted in the first post in this thread.

 

Each game has multiple suspend points, so you can start where you left off at a later time, no passwords needed.

 

That's what this line in the press release in the first post is almost all but certainly in reference to, since if it was limited like the Wii Virtual Console save functionality was, we wouldn't have any need for multiple save slots.

 

Unlike what's typically done, there's actually a lot of details in the press release. Since you're clearly interested and don't seem to have done more than just glance at it judging by several posts throughout this thread, I'd take a closer look at it if I were you. Likely will answer several questions you might have about this. :)

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I also find it strange that the news media is all over the "news" that this will only have the built in games, and no cartridges or Internet access. Why would anyone think otherwise?

because it goes against mainstream.

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I think that this system sounds awesome! While I love collecting physical cartridges, a lot of the games included on this new NES are quite pricey in cartridge form so this looks like a very nice way to get quite a few of the best NES games is one affordable package! I love other systems of this kind such as the Atari Flashback consoles but one officially by Nintendo and not just licensed by another company is probably going to be of a much higher quality! I for one can't wait and I think that I will be picking one up! Well done Nintendo! :D

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Play the system that started it all??

Not sure what it started..

And it isn't THE system of 1985, but a recreation, a re-implementation of some of it.

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I think that this system sounds awesome! While I love collecting physical cartridges, a lot of the games included on this new NES are quite pricey in cartridge form so this looks like a very nice way to get quite a few of the best NES games is one affordable package!

 

It's kinda like having a stand-alone "cartridge" that plays 30 games and has built-in I/O.

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