Holy Grail The Revival!

[icemanxp300]

It has come to my attention that the images were taken down and that's just not fair to all those who did not get to see. For some reason the images are still viewable for me...not sure why exactly, maybe they are stored in my cache or something...who knows anyhow, here you go.

 

Just because one person does not value your find doesn't mean all others will not. Collect what you want, and don't give a shit about what others think. "One mans trash is another mans treasure".

 

[MotoRacer]

Thank you.

 

If this was YouTube or something, I'd have let it slide. I just put my guard down here at AA, because it's a place to be with like minded, like-aged gamers. I just didn't expect to be met with such venom.

 

So I suppose you're right. Let the original idea of sharing to the community, my original intention, keep going on. I hope this provides some insight and education on where this system started, and I'm glad this piece didn't go missing to time like so many others before it.

 

Thanks Iceman,

 

Alexander-

[icemanxp300]

NP, I was hoping you were not going to get mad at me re-posting your images. I was already prepared to delete them if you were.

[MotoRacer]

Just so everything is in one thread:

 

The top prototype is the earliest PS4 controller proto to have been leaked. The article was on Kotaku, among others:

 

http://kotaku.com/sonys-ps4-controller-prototypes-sounded-completely-cra-1449694563

 

The bottom controller is also a prototype, albeit nothing of note as it's no different than a retail unit. I'm assuming this is just something they had, like the first, around the office for demonstration purposes and such. Still, it's a proto, so I figured I'd share, and at the very least it shows a comparison to the more awkward looking first version proto above it.

 

If anyone has questions, I'll be happy to answer any.

[MotoRacer]

NP, I was hoping you were not going to get mad at me re-posting your images. I was already prepared to delete them if you were.

 

Not at all, and frankly.. you're right. I'm not going to let someone with a superiority complex get me down, and get in the way of my original intention of sharing with my fellow AA members.

[+phoenixdownita]

Apologies for having been abrasive, great find.

[Newsdee]

As somebody who can't get enough controllers of all sorts, great find!

 

They look pretty high quality for one-off items but maybe they have ways to make good molds for a few uses? Or does the plastic feel different than the retail versions?

[0078265317]

Don't know why the other thread was locked in the first place. But this will be soon too probably...

[MotoRacer]

As somebody who can't get enough controllers of all sorts, great find!

 

They look pretty high quality for one-off items but maybe they have ways to make good molds for a few uses? Or does the plastic feel different than the retail versions?

 

Thanks! They're actually very high quality. The back is just basic rough plastic, instead of the bumpy texture the retail version has. As I mentioned in the other thread, the R1/L1 triggers actually feel a LOT better, and don't feel so loose and flimsy as the retail unit.

 

The controller as a whole is significantly lighter. I'd say half the weight or less than the retail unit. I think a lot of that has to do with the lack of a battery inside, though.

 

Don't know why the other thread was locked in the first place. But this will be soon too probably...

 

The other thread wasn't locked due to me leaking the images. It's still open to be read if you want to find out why it was locked down by my request.

[Professor Gull]

I love seeing stuff like this and to able to find something that was a test part be it for old or new is definitely something to be note worthy for sure.

 

Great find for sure and luck of the draw as well to get you into the right place at the right time as well.

 

Cheers!

[Chuck D. Head]

Thanks for sharing. This certainly doesn't excite me like it it does you, but it is (or will be) a piece of history and important to document.

[Professor Gull]

Thanks for sharing. This certainly doesn't excite me like it it does you, but it is (or will be) a piece of history and important to document.

Could be the last relevant console controller prototype ever as we all go to play on mobile phones......oh gods why!

[TPA5]

Well, glad someone reposted the images as I missed the drama in the other thread. Neat find, all that matters is that it gives you warm fuzzies when you look at it man.

 

 

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[omegadot]

I've always had a soft spot for the different controllers. They tend to be the only things that really differentiate systems of the same generation from each other in my mind. I'm not a collector of such things, but it's still super cool. Thanks for the post / repost.

[cimerians]

Nice, don't ever get rid of proto's no matter what system or console, modern or not.

 

My favorite rarities are from the PS1, Dreamcast N64 era.

 

I wish I had one, would look nice next to this

 

[Andromeda Stardust]

For some reason I heard "playstation prototype" and thought motoracer had a boomerang controller. Nice find either way.

[MotoRacer]

For some reason I heard "playstation prototype" and thought motoracer had a boomerang controller. Nice find either way.

 

 

Nah, that one is still lost to time. At least this one wasn't!

[madhatter667]

Do the proto controllers you scored function with a standard PS4? If yes, how do you find its ergos and response vs. final retail unit?

 

Everyone collects differently. This is why I like to believe that there is "room for all" within this hobby. There are methods and styles of collecting I don't understand, therefore I don't employ them. Lol.

 

I personally would have been way more amped had you come across a full set of proto hardware, or a dev unit along with the proto controllers... but I imagine that is a hard thing to come by, and would empty the wallet these days.

[StopDrop&Retro]

Not a bad find. I guess he's young though, he said it was something he's wanted since he was a kid.

 

I'm a little jealous but not as jealous as I expected I'd be thinking it would be some crazy early PS1/PS2 prototype/dev console. I'll keep my TEST PS2 on its throne, thankyouverymuch.

[MotoRacer]

Do the proto controllers you scored function with a standard PS4? If yes, how do you find its ergos and response vs. final retail unit?

 

Everyone collects differently. This is why I like to believe that there is "room for all" within this hobby. There are methods and styles of collecting I don't understand, therefore I don't employ them. Lol.

 

I personally would have been way more amped had you come across a full set of proto hardware, or a dev unit along with the proto controllers... but I imagine that is a hard thing to come by, and would empty the wallet these days.

 

It supposedly has limited functionality with a dev kit, for testing purposes, but no... it doesn't work on retail hardware. Then again, this is what I was told, so who knows. I don't currently have a PS4 atm, so I can't test it.

 

Ironically, the dev kits (well, eventually) are the ones that are "easy" to find, much like the debug consoles like the TEST PS2 and blue PS1 systems. The proto controllers, not easy at all, as the non-mass-produced models are usually one-offs. The "prototypes" that look like retail units, like the one in the picture I used to compare with, ARE mass produced, and are given out to every dev who bought a dev kit. They'll be very common one day.

 

I can find the dev kit later on, as I usually do. That's the easy part.

 

While I can't test the controller, I can tell you the face buttons are the exact same. I actually like the dpad better as it's one piece (like a Vita's). The joysticks are a bit higher than the retail ones, and larger in diameter, slightly. The triggers are a HUGE improvement. In fact, I'd say this is the worst change they made to the retail unit, as these triggers are heavenly and MUCH sturdier. The share and option buttons are flush with the pad, and hard to press in. I could see people thinking this is a positive and a negative. I like the retail one better in this case. The touchpad is NOT a button that presses in, despite it looking like it would have space to press down (see rear shots). It's also completely flush with the pad, so if you're looking at the tv, it would be hard to tell if you're touching it and where you are in relation to the corners. It is also very glossy, and tends to stick to your fingers more than the matte finish of the retail controller. I like the touchpad on the retail unit much better. Lastly, I like the retail unit's "PS Move" light better. The proto's would be shining in your face when playing, which would be distracting.

 

So basically, it's 50/50. Some things were better on the early proto. Some things better on the retail unit. I feel Sony made some confusing movies on this, while they also made some moves that certainly avoided some annoying potential issues.

 

Not a bad find. I guess he's young though, he said it was something he's wanted since he was a kid.

 

I'm a little jealous but not as jealous as I expected I'd be thinking it would be some crazy early PS1/PS2 prototype/dev console. I'll keep my TEST PS2 on its throne, thankyouverymuch.

 

Ugh. Come on guys, reading comprehension, guys! Can I please stop having to repeat this?:

 

I wanted a PS1 proto controller since I was about 10 years old (I'm 31 now), after seeing them in gaming magazines. I fell in love, back then, with the notion of having a piece of history that shows what the first versions of the hardware would be like. Of course, all of them are lost to time, owned by private collectors who don't share they have them, or in storage somewhere in Sony's headquarters.

 

I never remember seeing a proto controller for the PS2. The Boomerang PS3 proto has never been seen since, so who knows what happened to that.

 

This was missing (publically) for 3 years before I came across it. I'm not getting rid of it, as finding an early promo like this, where the design is so different (it was the earliest design of the DualShock 4 we ever saw) is so impossibly hard to come across.

 

I have a PS2 TEST. They're starting to get a little expensive now, but you can usually find them on Assembler or eBay. They're not terribly rare as every developer usually had several of them. They're at least neat in the sense that it plays games from all territories, just like the blue debug PS1 console.

Edited July 25, 2016 by MotoRacer

[madhatter667]

I used to have a blue PSX debug station. That thing was rad. Shame I sold it. They're still out there (test PS2 as well), but nowhere near the prices they used to be.

Edited July 25, 2016 by madhatter667

[MotoRacer]

I used to have a blue PSX debug station. That thing was rad. Shame I sold it. They're still out there (test PS2 as well), but nowhere near the prices they used to be.

 

Yeah, they used to be 50-100 bucks, any day of the week. I miss my blue PS1 as well. Thankfully, I still have my TEST PS2.

 

Despite the prices, the good thing is that there's always a handful of each on eBay most any day of the week. There's about 7 blue PS1's on eBay right now (most with bad drives, though), and 3 PS2 TEST models out there.