First Spear #1 Posted August 5, 2016 http://papaintellivision.com/ The site expires after September 16th. Who are the right people to keep the site going? I am thinking that it should be mirrored for the future, but it is all .php, which doesn't wget so well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rev #2 Posted August 5, 2016 The son-in-law? at one point had posted in here, Dont remember his name. Is there a way to contact anyone? Has anyone saved all the info on his site? There is a TON! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Tarzilla #3 Posted August 5, 2016 Internet Archive appears to have a copy https://web.archive.org/web/20160112182022/http://papaintellivision.com/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+freewheel #4 Posted August 6, 2016 Not sure if I got the full site, but I got what I consider to be the important parts - the treasure trove of technical PDFs hosted there. I had no problem with a simple wget: wget -r http://papaintellivision.com It's over a GB of PDFs, but I'm happy to share in the future. The only down side is that most of the PDFs aren't named. I've been meaning to dig through some of the original tech designs for a while now, just to see if I get any ideas; thanks for the reminder! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rev #5 Posted August 6, 2016 Someone download all the pdfs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Lathe26 #6 Posted August 6, 2016 Not sure if I got the full site, but I got what I consider to be the important parts - the treasure trove of technical PDFs hosted there. I had no problem with a simple wget: wget -r http://papaintellivision.com It's over a GB of PDFs, but I'm happy to share in the future. The only down side is that most of the PDFs aren't named. I've been meaning to dig through some of the original tech designs for a while now, just to see if I get any ideas; thanks for the reminder! I'be used wget once or twice but never noticed the -r option. Cool! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
First Spear #7 Posted August 6, 2016 Thanks for grabbing them, homie. How did the .php files come up? Does the site actually show locally? I was afraid that grabbing the stuff --recursive would make a mess. Not sure if I got the full site, but I got what I consider to be the important parts - the treasure trove of technical PDFs hosted there. I had no problem with a simple wget: wget -r http://papaintellivision.com It's over a GB of PDFs, but I'm happy to share in the future. The only down side is that most of the PDFs aren't named. I've been meaning to dig through some of the original tech designs for a while now, just to see if I get any ideas; thanks for the reminder! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+freewheel #8 Posted August 6, 2016 Someone download all the pdfs. Done. I'be used wget once or twice but never noticed the -r option. Cool! Dear god man, that's the only way to use it! You can set the max depth with -l as well (default is 5). Sometimes you need to go deeeeeep to leech everything. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rev #9 Posted August 6, 2016 You got all pdfs??? What was total? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+freewheel #10 Posted August 6, 2016 Thanks for grabbing them, homie. How did the .php files come up? Does the site actually show locally? I was afraid that grabbing the stuff --recursive would make a mess. The PHP doesn't work locally. You'd need to set up a local web server to make that happen. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong; I'm far from a web expert. wget recursively is almost always safe, especially when you're just wanting a bunch of PDF/image/MP3/whatever files. It'll set up nice folders for you and everything. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+freewheel #11 Posted August 6, 2016 You got all pdfs??? What was total? 109 PDFs, 1.3GB in total. 1.1 zipped. Weird, I thought PDF would compress a bit better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DZ-Jay #12 Posted August 6, 2016 The PHP doesn't work locally. You'd need to set up a local web server to make that happen. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong; I'm far from a web expert. wget recursively is almost always safe, especially when you're just wanting a bunch of PDF/image/MP3/whatever files. It'll set up nice folders for you and everything. If you wget a PHP file, you'll get the generated HTML. Just change the extension. -dZ. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+freewheel #13 Posted August 7, 2016 If you wget a PHP file, you'll get the generated HTML. Just change the extension. -dZ. Ah, right. Slaps head. I knew, or at least shoulda known that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mthompson #14 Posted August 7, 2016 It's certainly possible that the site isn't going anywhere, so don't panic yet. I get a renewal reminder about my domain names 30 days before they expire, and that site's domain isn't within 30 days of expiring yet. Even when it's renewed, I don't think the expiration date changes until the old one has arrived. No harm in grabbing files while they're still available, though. Many sites have disappeared over the years, and the Internet Archive, while good, won't give you access to everything that's ever been posted on the web. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
intvdave #15 Posted August 7, 2016 I have a mirror at: http://www.beeslife.com/intvlibrary/Papa/index.htm This is temporary awaiting to see if the site stays up. Please keep me posted as I do not visit out here much. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rev #16 Posted August 7, 2016 I have a mirror at: http://www.beeslife.com/intvlibrary/Papa/index.htm This is temporary awaiting to see if the site stays up. Please keep me posted as I do not visit out here much. Awesome! How did you do that??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfy62 #17 Posted August 7, 2016 Wow.......cool stuff! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DZ-Jay #18 Posted August 7, 2016 (edited) It's certainly possible that the site isn't going anywhere, so don't panic yet. I get a renewal reminder about my domain names 30 days before they expire, and that site's domain isn't within 30 days of expiring yet. Even when it's renewed, I don't think the expiration date changes until the old one has arrived. No harm in grabbing files while they're still available, though. Many sites have disappeared over the years, and the Internet Archive, while good, won't give you access to everything that's ever been posted on the web. I'm inclined to think it won't go anywhere. I also get notifications one month prior to expiration. Plus most domain registrars offer "auto-renew," which means that it gets renewed specifically on the day it expires. In theory, you could renew your site before it expires, but that is never done. Why would you pay for the next contract when the current one is still not up? All "pre-paying" does is actually set up a schedule to charge for renewal on expiration. So, don't panic. Awesome! How did you do that??? Back in my Windows 2000 days, I used to have a program called "Offline Explorer". It was a rather neat application that could crawl a site and create mirrors. It was smart enough to translate dynamically generated script output to HTML documents, and it could even "render" all dynamically generated CSS and JavaScript content into its final HTML representation and store that. Plus it's main stated function was to render an entire site for offline browsing, so all URLs (including external content) were resolved and translated into local relative URLs. It would prompt you if you wanted to let it crawl outside, and how "deep" it should go. It was very powerful, and much easier and versatile than using wget. That was back at the "Turn Of The Century" (OMG!!! That sounds soooo far away!), so I'm sure there should be better things by now. (*clickity-click*, *clickity-click*, *click*, *click*) Found it! I still have a license and the software somewhere. If you guys think it necessary, I could dig it up and run it from a virtual machine... -dZ. Edited August 7, 2016 by DZ-Jay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites