emkay Posted May 12, 2020 Author Share Posted May 12, 2020 Some more ideas to an old foe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted May 13, 2020 Author Share Posted May 13, 2020 And a "no comment" version... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted May 15, 2020 Author Share Posted May 15, 2020 A lot of minimal changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted May 19, 2020 Author Share Posted May 19, 2020 I wonder how this would evolve with the real 3 channel SID tune as source. POKEY has no low pass filter? But it can mute high toned sounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle22 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 On 7/12/2019 at 3:21 PM, emkay said: 64khz only... some "recharge to this one" ... It's a little harsh. Its a little harsh.mp3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted May 20, 2020 Author Share Posted May 20, 2020 3 hours ago, Kyle22 said: It's a little harsh. Its a little harsh.mp3 4.72 kB · 3 downloads lol You know I'm posting those development steps to show that timing has a big impact of the resulting sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted June 11, 2020 Author Share Posted June 11, 2020 In the other thread by VinsCool davidcalgary29 mentioned Silk Road by Kitaro. And as the theme is about pulse programming, I was wondering , if it fits... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted June 13, 2020 Author Share Posted June 13, 2020 On 6/11/2020 at 7:09 PM, emkay said: In the other thread by VinsCool davidcalgary29 mentioned Silk Road by Kitaro. And as the theme is about pulse programming, I was wondering , if it fits... hehe... again a full stroke on Youtube . Copyright infringement. No monetization.. "Theme from Silk Road detected" ... I'm honored Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted June 23, 2020 Author Share Posted June 23, 2020 This one took a hook on me . Just to have the filter slides/sweeps/morphing .... name it like you want . It also uses a technique to suppress the high peaks on generator "C" . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 3 hours ago, emkay said: This one took a hook on me . Just to have the filter slides/sweeps/morphing .... name it like you want . It also uses a technique to suppress the high peaks on generator "C" . 1st 10 seconds I thought "Oh no - painful" - but then it smoothed out. I assume that is what you meant by "a technique to suppress the high peaks"? Very cool sounding, I like the percussion sounds and I definitely like the beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted July 9, 2020 Author Share Posted July 9, 2020 And here some experimetal stuff Or name it beep without a beeper? Or just another demonstration of Pulse Width programming with POKEY in RMT ... 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Wow! That sounds fantastic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted July 9, 2020 Author Share Posted July 9, 2020 11 minutes ago, MrFish said: Wow! That sounds fantastic! Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 1 hour ago, emkay said: And here some experimetal stuff Or name it beep without a beeper? Or just another demonstration of Pulse Width programming with POKEY in RMT ... Really cool sounds there. Quite cool seeing the triangle waves in Altirra's waveform viewer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, emkay said: And here some experimetal stuff Or name it beep without a beeper? Or just another demonstration of Pulse Width programming with POKEY in RMT ... this why you can love emkay... for all the other stuff that goes down... he makes magic every so often! Edited July 9, 2020 by _The Doctor__ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 5 hours ago, emkay said: And here some experimetal stuff Or name it beep without a beeper? Or just another demonstration of Pulse Width programming with POKEY in RMT ... The sounds at the very end (from about 2:38 on) sound particular smooth for POKEY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted July 10, 2020 Author Share Posted July 10, 2020 16 hours ago, MrFish said: The sounds at the very end (from about 2:38 on) sound particular smooth for POKEY. It's a bit of timing problems in the emulations. In RMT the start of the tune sounds the same as at the end. Also the 2 cancelling parts don't happen in RMT . The rest is very similar. Wouldn't it be interesting to have 2 of those voices played together with one or even two softsynth voices? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 55 minutes ago, emkay said: It's a bit of timing problems in the emulations. In RMT the start of the tune sounds the same as at the end. Also the 2 cancelling parts don't happen in RMT . The rest is very similar. Wouldn't it be interesting to have 2 of those voices played together with one or even two softsynth voices? In the beginning it's just a solo voice, then the second voice is added using slow accompanying vibrato notes. At the end, the two voices are playing the same pattern together in harmony, with no vibrato on either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted July 10, 2020 Author Share Posted July 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, MrFish said: In the beginning it's just a solo voice, then the second voice is added using slow accompanying vibrato notes. At the end, the two voices are playing the same pattern together in harmony, with no vibrato on either. Believe it or not. It's the same pattern played, as the tune is restarting. It's now decades that I'm pointing to this problem. The timing is really to be kept 100% in the emulation, or those demonstrations will still be demonstrations. That's why I don't release RMTs that were hevily based on the timing. People seem just to missunderstand everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 1 minute ago, emkay said: Believe it or not. It's the same pattern played, as the tune is restarting. It's now decades that I'm pointing to this problem. The timing is really to be kept 100% in the emulation, or those demonstrations will still be demonstrations. That's why I don't release RMTs that were hevily based on the timing. People seem just to missunderstand everything. Hmmm... would you mind posting the RMT file? I'd like to check it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 (edited) The whole point is to make this on real Atari, real Pokey... otherwise what is the point as emulations change... and emulations vary Edited July 10, 2020 by _The Doctor__ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted July 10, 2020 Author Share Posted July 10, 2020 1 minute ago, _The Doctor__ said: The whole point is to make this on real Atari, real Pokey... otherwise what is the point emulations change... The point is to have the possibility for musicians to create 100% correct POKEY Tunes. POKEY handles this timing with an ease, and the clocking dependency is also the same. There is even no difference between PAL and NTSC in the timing. It is approved several times that "timing programming" really works on the real machine. So the latest tune is "real". The "anger" that you might read often from my posts is that I always have to do those "miracles" . Otherwise people don't believe my words. Also, I DID release some tunes with "special" programming. Have a look at "VinsCool"'s latest tune for POKEY. While he did mention me as a source here on atariage, he didn't do it on YouTube. Also, he is on the right way, but still not ready to do some cooperation, because he is underrating my knowledge here, as it seems. For me as a "non musician" it means to learn everything about music creation, and to put it to POKEY then. It seems to be the only way. Look how old the Atari is now. How many similar tunes did you hear on this platform? Particular POKEY is the chip with the most powerful and with most underused features in the Atari. To me it is a great checkpoint in the race, if people see the "new part" that was aimed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 The only way you can get all to understand a thing, is to let them see the thing... over and over again and sometimes from multitudes of examples... hearing is one thing... actually seeing the nuts and bolts in all the configurations/iterations is the only way it will see wide spread use and tools made to do so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted July 11, 2020 Author Share Posted July 11, 2020 About the timing issues. My guess is that the mixing via software sets variations to the timing of the channels . While POKEY has the fixed clocking and normally all 4 channels have their separated wave control as a divider of the base clocking, the emulation seems to mix the changes of waves together. This means the timing of replay is depending on the played frequency of each channels. I wonder how this could be solved in emulations. Here is a 10 minutes demonstration. As long as all channels play the same all time, the resulting timing programming is the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted July 22, 2020 Author Share Posted July 22, 2020 Some physics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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