InsertCoin25 Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 (edited) I figured I might start this development process, using batari basic, but I don't really know too much basic programming. What books would you recommended to learn basic? I did notice that Random Terrain had a book for Atari 400/800 basic on his website, is that a good start? I have been reading through the 'Stella Programming Manual', to understand how the Atari 2600 operates. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thank You InsertCoin25 Edit - The book on Random Terrain's site is called Atari Basic - Self Teaching Guide. Edited November 4, 2016 by InsertCoin25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Karl G Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Perhaps others would disagree, but I'm not sure if learning the BASIC language beforehand would be very helpful, and it might end up causing more confusion than anything else. Batari BASIC is a lot different from most other forms of BASIC because it is compiled instead of interpreted, and tied very closely to the Atari hardware (along with it's limitations in terms of memory, etc). I assume you have found this page? http://www.randomterrain.com/atari-2600-memories-batari-basic-commands.html#gettingstarted If your ultimate goal is learning Batari BASIC, then I would suggest just diving in with that, playing with the code samples on that site, etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gemintronic Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 ^^^ THIS I learned the most from a combination of reading Random Terrains website and playing around with the examples listed in the bB section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InsertCoin25 Posted November 4, 2016 Author Share Posted November 4, 2016 (edited) Alright, sounds good. Only problem I have is reading text on a computer screen for a long period of time. Guess I will be printing the manual to read offline. Probably only 800 pages worth of printing. Edit - Did a print preview - around 292 pages. I would like batari basic to help me with the basics of 2600 programming, so I can get the fundamentals (without getting frustrated and ultimately giving up), and then move to understanding assembly language. I am probably doing this in reverse order, but I believe this will help fill in gaps for my lack of programming skills. I appreciate the posts so far. Thank you. Edited November 4, 2016 by InsertCoin25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMajorHavoc Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 Random Terrain's site appears to be offline since yesterday Nov 5 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gemintronic Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 Random Terrain's site appears to be offline since yesterday Nov 5 ? That's bad news indeed. I use it every day as I'm just finishing up a project. I've got a backup copy from 2013. Anyone have anything newer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMajorHavoc Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 That's bad news indeed. I use it every day as I'm just finishing up a project. I've got a backup copy from 2013. Anyone have anything newer? Yes, This is my offline snapshot I made 10/22/16: I sent Random Terrain a message. www.randomterrain.com_102216.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Random Terrain Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 I haven't had my computer on for a couple of days and when I went to go to my web site yesterday, it seemed to be gone. I thought it might be because Spectrum bought Time Warner and they screwed up the DNS stuff somehow, but it looks like it's not just me that can't view my web site. So I'll contact Yahoo or Aabaco Small Business or whatever their name is on Monday and see if they can tell me what's going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogax Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 Open System Status Messages DateMessageService 11/06/16 06:10 AM PST: Recent domain name verification emails You may have received an email recently from us with the following subject line: VERIFICATION REQUIRED – Please verify your domain name(s) as soon as possible Please rest assured that these emails are legitimate. ICANN (the governing body for the Internet) requires that all domains have accurate contact information, and we occasionally need to verify this information. Read more in this Help Center article. We ask that you promptly follow the verification instructions in this email. Unverified domains may be suspended until verification is completed. Thank you for your attention to this matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Random Terrain Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 I never got an e-mail like that as far as I know. Guess it's too late to do anything about it now. Everything went to crap when they changed over to Aabaco. They somehow managed to fix it so I couldn't even look at my log files. Now that my web site is gone, I can focus on what I really love: deep-sea twerking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevEng Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 www.randomterrain.com is working as usual for me, and was yesterday too. [edit] Nevermind. Looks like my browser was serving it out of cache. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gemintronic Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Also could use this in a pinch: https://web-beta.archive.org/web/20160427134833/http://www.randomterrain.com:80/atari-2600-memories-batari-basic-commands.html UPDATE: Er, stupid question: Can we reach the web page by using the ip address directly? http ://192.145.12.24 / or whatever? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gemintronic Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Back on topic. If the original poster really wants a general BASIC reference I'd look up used books on QuickBASIC and/or QBASIC. While not all the formatting is batari BASIC compatible it *is* closer to the Sega Genesis BASIC compiler BasiEgaXorz. So, kill two birds with one stone.. sorta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevEng Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 UPDATE: Er, stupid question: Can we reach the web page by using the ip address directly? http ://192.145.12.24 / or whatever? Not a stupid question at all. If this is purely a DNS issue then we would be able to get to the site - you'd likely have to create a local hosts entry for www.randomterrain.com on your pc though, and the try to visit the site as usual. Most hosting providers aren't giving each site a unique IP, so they figure out who's content to serve from the domain part of the URL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Random Terrain Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 For anyone who cares, my web site is back up. I don't know how since I didn't receive a verification e-mail, but I'm glad it's back. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain King Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 Hooray! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Lewis2907 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 Great and good news. I use it a lot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gemintronic Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 For anyone who cares, my web site is back up. I don't know how since I didn't receive a verification e-mail, but I'm glad it's back. Thank the Great Pumpkin! I cobbled together a virtual application package that started a mini web server and launched a browser-as-desktop-app wrapper that pointed to a back copy of your site. I'm starting to suspect I make things too complicated when I'm missing something important in my daily routine 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WizardBone Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 (edited) its not working for me : ( is it down again? i use it daily for reference , come backkkk lol edit: nevermind its there now, took about 5 mins to load? Edited November 12, 2016 by WizardBone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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