+jedimatt42 Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Tursi, I infer from this then, that the emulation is not persistent, but can be used to save the 120k file from inside gromcfg. Once that is done, can the U entry be used to load that back, or does it require loading via gromcfg first? -M@ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jedimatt42 Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 For this endeaver, I have been using this configuration in classic99: [usercart2] ; Ubergrom name="UberGrom" rom0=C|6000|2000|MODS\TUTANKHAMC.bin rom1=U|6000|80000|MODS\ubergrom.bin So I get the rom component loaded as well. The contents of ubergrom.bin are 120k of some other rom... and gromcfg viewers don't see that, so when you say load 'anything', I suppose everything but the 'U' is ignored except for parsing the config line. Is that correct? -M@ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jedimatt42 Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 I don't know anymore... The groms look healthy in the debugger, but it causes the TI menu screen to crash. That EA2K is handy... thanks. I ^S'ed my ubergrom layout, in case anyone can see what I'm did wrong... UBERTUT_BAD.zip The companion C.bin, and source G.bin are over here: http://atariage.com/forums/topic/254218-what-ever-happened-towith/page-1?do=findComment&comment=3540753 -M@ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asmusr Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Remember that GROMCFG won't work correctly in Classic99 unless you have configured the UberGROM to be active with a Classic99 cartridge entry. Doh. It's working for me now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asmusr Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 I don't know anymore... The groms look healthy in the debugger, but it causes the TI menu screen to crash. That EA2K is handy... thanks. I ^S'ed my ubergrom layout, in case anyone can see what I'm did wrong... UBERTUT_BAD.zip The companion C.bin, and source G.bin are over here: http://atariage.com/forums/topic/254218-what-ever-happened-towith/page-1?do=findComment&comment=3540753 -M@ You file works for me in Classic. I load it into GROMCFG, press F7 and disable bases, then soft reset. I then get to the menu where I can select the game and play it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jedimatt42 Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Ah, I didn't try turning bases off... The world is right again.. Now to see if it can be reproduced on the real hardware... -M@ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jedimatt42 Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 And why do I need to turn the grom bases off? Is it because the GROM header is in the last grom? -M@ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jedimatt42 Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 And why do I need to turn the grom bases off? Is it because the GROM header is in the last grom? -M@ From Tursi's manual on the UberGrom: A note on device interfacing The TI console includes limited support for multiple GROM bases, and a ‘Review Module Library’ option. However, it determines whether to activate this by comparing the first 31 bytes of cartridge space, starting at >6000. There is a bug in this loop, in that if multiple bases ARE detected, but no valid cartridge header is detected, the console will go into an infinite loop while building the module list. In order to make it less likely to cause this behavior by accident, all peripheral spaces on this device start at a >0020 offset, and the first 32 bytes. Thus, only GROM, RAM or EEPROM can actually be at >6000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted November 13, 2016 Author Share Posted November 13, 2016 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGBie5pT9nw I have faith this will be playable on Christmas morning! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeBo Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 I have faith this will be playable on Christmas morning! The fact that certain folks are involved in the discussions certainly builds my confidence that this long lost, never released gem will soon be as common on our 4A's as Slime and Robotron 2048 (it wasn't that long ago that we could only imagine playing those as well!). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jedimatt42 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Ok, I was able to play to a 3rd level on real iron with the UberGrom! Now to see if I can reproduce it. -M@ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ksarul Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Use your programmer to copy the entire contents of your UberGROM's 1284 and do the same for your 49F040 and it should reproduce flawlessly, as you have the entire configuration set correctly now. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ksarul Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 It looks like it was good that I built 30 standard UberGROM boards this weekend. . . 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jedimatt42 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Wishing for Tutankham to be released on the UberGrom board. That would totally make my Christmas! Tutankham.zip Inside are 4 files to flash to the 2 chips on the UberGrom cartridge board: at49F040.bin : The 8K rom code, filled into all banks of the 512k rom, so no matter what bank your ubergrom starts on, it will find the code. atmega1284p-code.BIN : The ubergrom chip code segment with the groms atmega1284p-config.BIN : The fuse settings for the ubergrom chip atmega1284p-data.BIN : Not actually sure what this is, but there are some bytes in it so flash those... (Oh, this is the portion Gazoo's images called eeprom) If using the MINI-PRO TL866 programmer, there are 3 tabs for the different segments. The atmega files are named to match the name of the segment to load into, either by changing the radio selector when loading the file, or by switching to that tab before picking the File->Load function. Maybe this should go into new products at Arcade Shopper... On real-iron, my complaints of game-play dissolve. It is just a bit faster paced game then most of our TI offerings. And I have some responsiveness issues on my machine with the emulator... It does not seem to support keyboard input at all during game-play, just joystick 1. ( I haven't tried 2 player mode yet ) Fire when moving left or right. Pressing fire and up activates one of your magic-lamps that nuke all enemies on the screen. Once you use up your lives, then space-bar seems to restart. -M@ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ksarul Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 I will have to try this out this weekend--and I already have appropriate labels for this one. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted November 14, 2016 Author Share Posted November 14, 2016 Thanks MATT! I programmed it in and it seems to work fine, now to print the label and put it in a permanent shell! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+arcadeshopper Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Tutankham.zip Inside are 4 files to flash to the 2 chips on the UberGrom cartridge board: at49F040.bin : The 8K rom code, filled into all banks of the 512k rom, so no matter what bank your ubergrom starts on, it will find the code. atmega1284p-code.BIN : The ubergrom chip code segment with the groms atmega1284p-config.BIN : The fuse settings for the ubergrom chip atmega1284p-data.BIN : Not actually sure what this is, but there are some bytes in it so flash those... (Oh, this is the portion Gazoo's images called eeprom) If using the MINI-PRO TL866 programmer, there are 3 tabs for the different segments. The atmega files are named to match the name of the segment to load into, either by changing the radio selector when loading the file, or by switching to that tab before picking the File->Load function. Maybe this should go into new products at Arcade Shopper... On real-iron, my complaints of game-play dissolve. It is just a bit faster paced game then most of our TI offerings. And I have some responsiveness issues on my machine with the emulator... It does not seem to support keyboard input at all during game-play, just joystick 1. ( I haven't tried 2 player mode yet ) Fire when moving left or right. Pressing fire and up activates one of your magic-lamps that nuke all enemies on the screen. Once you use up your lives, then space-bar seems to restart. -M@ NICE JOB M@! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted November 14, 2016 Author Share Posted November 14, 2016 NICE JOB M@! Three cheers for Matt! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+eebuckeye Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 How complete is the game? I would be interested in buying a cart! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jedimatt42 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Somebody will have to play through until they hit a wall. I'm not good enough to get beyond the 3rd level. I would love to see how far good players can get. -M@ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OLD CS1 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 I may have to pick up a spare UberGROM for games like this. Probably after Christmas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tursi Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Tursi, I infer from this then, that the emulation is not persistent, but can be used to save the 120k file from inside gromcfg. Once that is done, can the U entry be used to load that back, or does it require loading via gromcfg first? It's a cartridge, therefore, unless you have loaded the cartridge, it's not part of the emulation. You can define the entire cartridge in Classic99.ini to avoid needing to load it through GROMCFG each time. So I get the rom component loaded as well. The contents of ubergrom.bin are 120k of some other rom... and gromcfg viewers don't see that, so when you say load 'anything', I suppose everything but the 'U' is ignored except for parsing the config line. Is that correct? No, it's actually loaded into the GROM space and you actually will see it in GROMCFG (if you configure it to a memory address - without an EEPROM load there are no slots configured so you don't see any data). You don't need to load the entire 120k, if all you want to do is enable the UberGROM emulation for the sake of using GROMCFG, you can load any data and any amount of data. There's only one configuration today so it's always a 120k chip. If you want to actually load an UberGROM cartridge, you will ALSO need to include the EEPROM data as that is where the slot configuration is stored. The Classic99 type for that is 'T' and it's a 4k memory. You can use the files you dumped from the EPROM programmer and load them directly through Classic99.ini. [usercart45] name="Tutankham" rom0=U|0000|1E000|C:\classic99\MODS\Tutankham\atmega1284p-code.BIN rom1=8|0000|80000|C:\classic99\MODS\Tutankham\at49F040.bin rom2=T|0000|1000|C:\classic99\MODS\Tutankham\atmega1284p-data.BIN 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jedimatt42 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 It is really awesome to have this technology available Tursi! Just have to say thank you! It is really awesome to be able to re-cartridge something like this. -M@ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+arcadeshopper Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 here's the minipro project file so you just gotta load one thing: hit project, open project, then burn the 1284.. Greg Tutankham.zip 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mantadoc Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Wow it is allready Christmas now ..... Beautyful work guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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