Vga monitors and F18A

[Sinphaltimus]

Have any of you had any issues with F18A not working on a specific kind of vga monitor?

 

Or does it just work with everything you've all plugged it in to?

 

I'm asking because I'm terribly frustrated. I purchased and Amiga analog to vga converter only to discover I need an ecs chipset only to discover I have to use a specific kind of monitor. It didn't work on many vga models. As I've discovered on my own.

 

So now my grand plan to put Amiga on vga and ti in rca video (until such a tune as I can acquire an f18a) is shot to Hell.

 

I'll have to keep my Amiga on rca video and get my ti on vga.

 

I do not want to have this experience again.

[jedimatt42]

The f18a outputs an extremely standard 640x480 vga signal.

 

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[Shift838]

Have any of you had any issues with F18A not working on a specific kind of vga monitor?

 

Or does it just work with everything you've all plugged it in to?

 

I'm asking because I'm terribly frustrated. I purchased and Amiga analog to vga converter only to discover I need an ecs chipset only to discover I have to use a specific kind of monitor. It didn't work on many vga models. As I've discovered on my own.

 

So now my grand plan to put Amiga on vga and ti in rca video (until such a tune as I can acquire an f18a) is shot to Hell.

 

I'll have to keep my Amiga on rca video and get my ti on vga.

 

I do not want to have this experience again.

 

I have plugged it into so far with no issues

 

VGA port on the back of my LG 55" LED TV

V7 24" LED monitor

SamSung 24" LED Monitor

A Elements 19" LED TV/Monitor (this is currently what's in use on the TI and fits nicely in my cubby hole for it).

 

There may be some older VGA monitors that may not work with it. You may want to contact Matthew since he develops them to find out if there are any specifics for monitors that you need to make sure they have before purchasing. You can contact him HERE

[+InsaneMultitasker]

Do you have an F18A in your TI or is the problem with your Amiga? Your post isn't clear on the exact problem.

 

I have used my F18A with a few different 4:3 and 16:9 monitors without trouble.

[+OLD CS1]

If I read your post correctly, you have an F18A installed in the TI and are connecting the TI's composite output to the Amiga monitor?

 

If so, then that will not work. The F18A does not output composite, therefore the video at the TI's port is not active. Only the VGA output of the F18A is active.

 

EDIT: Okay, I see that was a grand plan until you could get an F18A. Otherwise, no, I have been able to use my F18A with every monitor I have connected: Dell 17" through 24", small 15" Sony, a bunch of TVs in hotels and AirBNBs where I stayed, etc.

[+arcadeshopper]

Have any of you had any issues with F18A not working on a specific kind of vga monitor?

 

Or does it just work with everything you've all plugged it in to?

 

I'm asking because I'm terribly frustrated. I purchased and Amiga analog to vga converter only to discover I need an ecs chipset only to discover I have to use a specific kind of monitor. It didn't work on many vga models. As I've discovered on my own.

 

So now my grand plan to put Amiga on vga and ti in rca video (until such a tune as I can acquire an f18a) is shot to Hell.

 

I'll have to keep my Amiga on rca video and get my ti on vga.

 

I do not want to have this experience again.

 

the f18a works on digital rgb monitors just like every other "vga" standard display port with a 60hz refresh rate

the amiga works on ANALOG rgb monitors at a refresh rate of 15hz..

 

there are very few monitors that can sync to both rates with rgb..

 

the ONLY monitor I've used that will do both is the Samsung 910mp (LCD) which has Vga (digital) and ANALOG via it's scart port.. oh and also composite and RF as well! and is 4:3 which is preferred for both systems..

 

Greg

[+arcadeshopper]

oh and also you can get scan doublers for your amiga to work with a higher scan rate.. also you can buy scart cables and a scart to hdmi cable to plug into modern monitors etc. my amiga 3000 has a built in scan doubler so it works with a modern monitor

[Sinphaltimus]

 

the f18a works on digital rgb monitors just like every other "vga" standard display port with a 60hz refresh rate

the amiga works on ANALOG rgb monitors at a refresh rate of 15hz..

 

there are very few monitors that can sync to both rates with rgb..

 

the ONLY monitor I've used that will do both is the Samsung 910mp (LCD) which has Vga (digital) and ANALOG via it's scart port.. oh and also composite and RF as well! and is 4:3 which is preferred for both systems..

 

Greg

The ecs chipset and this adaptor get rid if the 15khz issue. That's what I've been told.

[Sinphaltimus]

oh and also you can get scan doublers for your amiga to work with a higher scan rate.. also you can buy scart cables and a scart to hdmi cable to plug into modern monitors etc. my amiga 3000 has a built in scan doubler so it works with a modern monitor

I think I'm done with any sort of Amiga purchases unless I can get my hands on a vampire ii.

 

I'm going to save for the f18a and put the Amiga to rest on rca video.

Edited November 9, 2016 by Sinphaltimus

[Sinphaltimus]

Thank you all. You've helped me refocus on where the real happiness is. Long live the TI.

[Omega-TI]

I'm going to save for the f18a and put the Amiga to rest on rca video.

 

Now you are sounding like a man who has his priorities straight!

[Sinphaltimus]

I was lost. But now I'm found.

[+OLD CS1]

The ecs chipset and this adaptor get rid if the 15khz issue. That's what I've been told.

 

Yeah... but in productivity mode you face some performance losses. Your best bet is a scan-doubler/flicker-fixer, or an Indivision ECS.

 

I think I'm done with any sort of Amiga purchases unless I can get my hands on a vampire ii.

 

I'm going to save for the f18a and put the Amiga to rest on rca video.

 

I understand the Vampire II has an RTG video card on-board? Sounds neat...

[Sinphaltimus]

Yeah, the Vampire II is the last hope for the Amiga and I to continue this love/hate thing.

 

 

[Shift838]

Yeah, the Vampire II is the last hope for the Amiga and I to continue this love/hate thing.

 

 

I think most of us at one time or another have had a love/hate relationship with our retro system.

 

It's going to be really beneficial for you to steer toward the F18A for the TI.

 

I love it so much I bought another one a couple of months ago.

[Sinphaltimus]

I've not been fair to anyone. Haphazardly making purchases without researching it or thinking them through.

 

Now I'm at the point where I have to sell to buy. I've got a lot of inventory to go through.

 

I'll offer it all up here for sale or trade before diving in to the baze.

Edited November 9, 2016 by Sinphaltimus

[+arcadeshopper]

The ecs chipset and this adaptor get rid if the 15khz issue. That's what I've been told.

 

Sounds like voodoo to me I haven't ever found an adapter to be a solution for scanrate.. It usually takes a video card etc. what model amiga? I have a 1200 but i have the dvi interface for it to work with modern monitors

[+OLD CS1]

 

Sounds like voodoo to me I haven't ever found an adapter to be a solution for scanrate.. It usually takes a video card etc. what model amiga? I have a 1200 but i have the dvi interface for it to work with modern monitors

 

The ECS chipset provides "Productivity" modes which output at roughly 30kHz. It comes at the expense of more custom chip bandwidth used to generate video.

[Sinphaltimus]

 

Sounds like voodoo to me I haven't ever found an adapter to be a solution for scanrate.. It usually takes a video card etc. what model amiga? I have a 1200 but i have the dvi interface for it to work with modern monitors

 

 

OLD CS1 answered the ECS part. I have a beloved Amiga 500. I'm going to move forward with my modding of it as i plan to HxC the GoTek in it and do the LCD mod and put the entire thing in to a PC tower case.

 

 

It won't really become useful without a VII as I have zero interest in upgrading the ram or CPU via already existing tech. Too little for too much and in some cases too little for too much for too old. I'd like to learn to develop on it someday. But right now it's just the nostalgia that keeps me attached. I don't recall my Amiga ever being such a pain but then again, that was a long time ago, I used Amiga ready monitors, had a lot more ram and accessories at the time as well. So it was really a lot of fun. rebuilding it almost 20 years later, not so much.

Edited November 9, 2016 by Sinphaltimus