My UDS-10 Questions

[Sinphaltimus]

So I got a Lantronix UDS-10 off ebay.

It has a factory reset button that I tried several methods with besides just holding it in powered on and releasing.

All status and diagnostic lights appear to show a working unit. However; I cannot connect to it via serial or TCP.

The traffic light even shows spontaneous activity.

It's not showing up in my DHCP logs and I can't find the MAC address in any of the tables

 

Following the setup guide by pressing x in a terminal program (TeraTerm) while; power cycling doesn't work.

.I installed device setup and it doesn't find it.

Short of setting up a mini network for just 3 device (dhcp server, desktop and lantronix. I'm kind of running out of options..

Any tips or tricks?


CONTEXT - Plan to use with nanoPEB.

Edited December 18, 2016 by Sinphaltimus

[Shift838]

So I got a Lantronix UDS-10 off ebay.

 

It has a factory reset button that I tried several methods with besides just holding it in powered on and releasing.

 

All status and diagnostic lights appear to show a working unit. However; I cannot connect to it via serial or TCP.

 

The traffic light even shows spontaneous activity.

 

It's not showing up in my DHCP logs and I can't find the MAC address in any of the tables

 

Following the setup guide by pressing x in a terminal program (TeraTerm) while; power cycling doesn't work.

 

.I installed device setup and it doesn't find it.

 

Short of setting up a mini network for just 3 device (dhcp server, desktop and lantronix. I'm kind of running out of options..

 

Any tips or tricks?

 

 

CONTEXT - Plan to use with nanoPEB.

 

if I recall correctly from inside a terminal with it set to 9600 8N1 you hold down the 'x' key (lower case if i recall) when powering it up and you will go into the setup.

[+arcadeshopper]

use the lantronics device installer http://ltxfaq.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/644?_ga=1.45418468.1124582142.1482037988 that should find it on your lan

[Stuart]

arcadeshopper, on 18 Dec 2016 - 05:14 AM, said:

use the lantronics device installer http://ltxfaq.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/644?_ga=1.45418468.1124582142.1482037988 that should find it on your lan

 

Be aware ... I seem to recall that the Lantronix installer only scans addresses 192.168.1.x. If you've got your network set up as 192.168.0.x then the Lantranix installer won't find the device. There are various freeware programs around such as http://www.advanced-ip-scanner.com/ that might be useful to find the UDS-10.

[Sinphaltimus]

The device installer is not finding the UDS.

 

Entering setup via serial is not working.

 

9600/8n1 no fc is set. Not just is teraterm but also Windows device manager com4 usb. Yes the adaptor works with my Amiga confirmed.

 

My home network is 192.168.1.x

 

Spiceworks network scanner is not finding it nor does it show up in my DHCP logs.

 

 

I have a feeling the reset button is not working or the default settings are not what is expected.

 

I'll take it to work today and try it again during a break.

Edited December 18, 2016 by Sinphaltimus

[Sinphaltimus]

I'm convinced this unit is no good to spite all indications it's working fine (status lights).

 

I believe is old ip information is stuck in there or the default config is not dhcp and I don't know the default network setup at all.

 

It does not seem to take a dhcp address at all. Doesn't show up in any router in dhcp leases list.

 

I'm going to contact the seller when I get home.

Edited December 18, 2016 by Sinphaltimus

[Sinphaltimus]

Definitely something very wrong with this.

 

I was able to get the ip from the device by using wireshark and winpcap.

 

The address is 10.1.3.152

 

I reconfigure a dhcp router to be 10.1.3.1, dhcp to be .50-.100

My pc gets .50

 

I can ping .152

I unplug uds.

Ping times out.

I plug in uds, ping continues.

 

Web browser will not connect.

Device installer does not discover uds. I "Add Device", supply the IP. No device found at that ip.

 

Sent email to seller on ebay.

 

*SIGH*

Edited December 18, 2016 by Sinphaltimus

[Shift838]

If you wired up the serial cable like I specified for the TI you should be able to hold down the 'x' lowercase X when powering the unit up while connected to the Nano and it should drop into the setup.

 

I just verified it on my Nano.

 

some of the common mistakes I have seen when wiring up cables for serial is the orientation of the pins. On a female 9 pin from solder side pin 1 is on left.

Edited December 18, 2016 by Shift838

[Shift838]

Definitely something very wrong with this.

 

I was able to get the ip from the device by using wireshark and winpcap.

 

The address is 10.1.3.152

 

I reconfigure a dhcp router to be 10.1.3.1, dhcp to be .50-.100

My pc gets .50

 

I can ping .152

I unplug uds.

Ping times out.

I plug in uds, ping continues.

 

Web browser will not connect.

Device installer does not discover uds. I "Add Device", supply the IP. No device found at that ip.

 

Sent email to seller on ebay.

 

*SIGH*

 

Also since you have the IP address of the unit.

 

Have you tried to telnet to port 9999 via it's IP of 10.1.3.152

[Sinphaltimus]

If you wired up the serial cable like I specified for the TI you should be able to hold down the 'x' lowercase X when powering the unit up while connected to the Nano and it should drop into the setup.

 

I just verified it on my Nano.

 

some of the common mistakes I have seen when wiring up cables for serial is the orientation of the pins. On a female 9 pin from solder side pin 1 is on left.

Well. In regards to the cable, I have a db9 female to console. Db24 (I think it's 24 pin, it fits the Lantronix) male to console. I connected the two using Ethernet cable, cut the cable, using my multimeter to identify only the cables I needed and connected them as per the diagram. Pin one is top row all the way left for both db9 and db24, pin 2 is to the right of pin one through the end of the top row, the carage return (after to right most, continue bottom left most).

 

I do not have a clue about the ti side.

 

Terminal emulator II goes to a blank screen and nothing happened and nothing is responsive. That's after confirming all the settings screen.

 

I do not know when I would press xxx on the ti or anything.

 

Is there some sort of guide?

 

Start with console.

Plug in such and such cartridge.

Turn on nano.

Turn on console.

Select this, that and the other thing...

Etc.....

Etc......

Connected!

 

 

PS: telnet fails connection in port 23 and 9999

Edited December 18, 2016 by Sinphaltimus

[Shift838]

So the 25 pin connector since it is male pin 1 will actually start on the right if if you are looking at it via the solder side.

 

the Male/Female pinout orientations are always opposites.

 

you would press the lowercase x after you are in the terminal. however in the TEII that will not work as the setup defaults to 9600 8N1 and TE2 will not do those settings. I have seen people have to configure it via PC this one.

 

did you try to telnet to the IP address of the device on port 9999 ?

 

This the standard way to set it up via telnet.

[Sinphaltimus]

 

Uh oh what?

Looking at it from the plug side (Not solder) I thought pin 1 would be upper left on both connections. Are you saying that's not the case? I may need to remake that cable.

[Shift838]

correct. that's not the case. I just opened my 25 pin cable to verify before I posted. on the male connector looking at it via solder side pin 1 is top right.

[Shift838]

but like I said, TEII will not do 9600 baud it makes at 300

[Sinphaltimus]

correct. that's not the case. I just opened my 25 pin cable to verify before I posted. on the male connector looking at it via solder side pin 1 is top right.

Yeah, I'll have to remake the cable when I get home. But that doesn't help my tcp issues with it.

 

I'll make the cable correct, I'll set TEII to 300 baud and see what happens.

 

The seller offered to replace the box if I can't get it going.

[+Lee Stewart]

The pin numbers are stamped on the plastic on both the plugin and solder sides of DE-9 and DB-25 connectors. If you shine a light obliquely, you should be able to read them. I can still read them with these 73-year-old eyes without a magnifying glass!

 

...lee

[Sinphaltimus]

The pin numbers are stamped on the plastic on both the plugin and solder sides of DE-9 and DB-25 connectors. If you shine a light obliquely, you should be able to read them. I can still read them with these 73-year-old eyes without a magnifying glass!

 

...lee

I was working on my Boy's Christmas present and it ended up not working. Unrelated, I will however have to post a help me please off topic later today. But I was fairly tired and frustrated when I went to go make my cable. I was thinking male pinpout and not female. Otherwise, I should have known better.

 

Edited December 18, 2016 by Sinphaltimus

[Sinphaltimus]

OK, so I remade the cable and at least on the TI side, I get past the settings screen with a beep and on to a screen where I can type. But nothing other than that.

I really need to install my F18A already, this overscan is killing me on the CRT.

But with that said, I tried typing ATDT commands and such with no feedback. Just echos of my type.

Going to give this serial to PC connection a try again.

[Shift838]

Hope this illustration helps. Just match the colors

 

 

 

[+InsaneMultitasker]

The serial port manual setup will only work at 9600 8N1. Most TI terminal emulators will have trouble with this speed, so a regular PC (or faster non-PC system) and terminal emulator is recommended here. You need to be sure your cable is correct for either the TI or PC. Their receive and transmit pins are different, which can cause great frustration and confusion for the unaware.

 

If I recall correctly, some of these devices cannot be factory reset with the reset button. I did a quick scan for related documents but found nothing definitive. I have had luck with both the serial setup and the Lantronix installer. Be sure you have the MAC handy, it should be printed on a label affixed to the UDS device itself. Be sure the UDS device and the PC you are using to scan for it are on the same segment.

 

I've linked to a process that works provided you have the proper serial cable(s) and a working UDS device:

https://www.disavowed.jp/index.php?/archives/51-Real-instructions-on-getting-a-Lantronix-UDS-10-serial-to-Ethernet-bridge-working.html

 

Edit: added the direct link to the entry

Edited December 19, 2016 by InsaneMultitasker

[Shift838]

Insane is right. the reset switch does not perform a factory default restore. The Device Installer will do a factory reset. you can do a scan with the MAC address to add the device to the utility as well.

[Sinphaltimus]

Yep. Been through all of that. I can only ping the device ip. It is not accepting web connections, it is not accepting serial connections (I have the proper serial connector for pc) and the Lantronix Device Installer does not find the device via ip, mac address or auto detect. I have verified the ip and the mac address via arp. Mac matches what is printed on the Lantronix.

The seller wants me to call for further troubleshooting. I will call today.

It's pretty straight forward. I believe this unit is malfunctioning.

For those who may not know. Wireshark can identify ip devices even if they are on a different subnet.

Get a router (Like a regular wifi router with at least 2 lan ports).
Plug in a dhcp configured computer, install winpcap, install wireshark.

Start capturing pockets in wireshark. Plug in unknown ip device.

The unknown ip device will broadcast out a dhcp request and or an arp request if it is static ip. Wireshark will capture these requests and provide the source ip.

That is how I discovered the ip. It even matches the ip to mac address for further clarification.

Even though my network was 192 it still found the 10. Device.

Then I setup my dhcp for the same network as the uds and continued from there without success.

Edited December 19, 2016 by Sinphaltimus

[Sinphaltimus]

Seller is going to replace the UDS.

 

Very happy with this seller. Communicative, concerned, helpful.

[Sinphaltimus]

OK, I have a working UDS-10 now. I do not have F18A installed. I do have a proper cable made. I do have a flashrom99 and nanoPEBv1.1. I also have a terminal emulator II cart.

 

What can I do now to verify this works connected to a TI?

[Shift838]

OK, I have a working UDS-10 now. I do not have F18A installed. I do have a proper cable made. I do have a flashrom99 and nanoPEBv1.1. I also have a terminal emulator II cart.

 

What can I do now to verify this works connected to a TI?

 

You can set your UDS 10 device to 300 baud and change the I/F mode to 78, this will set it to Even Parity, 7 databites and 1 stopbit, which is what the Terminal Emulator 2 cartridge likes.

 

Go into your TE2 and make sure that is set that way then you should be able to issue an AT command and press enter and a response of OK should work.

 

Then you can test dialing out if you get the OK by typing:

 

ATDT 99.122.140.172,9640