_The Doctor__ Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 (edited) well it's not like a crt these days... what make and model insignia screen is that? usually there is a spot for red green and blue adjust... tint... temperature (warm normal cold etc)... as well as colorspace etc... while your at it adjust brightness and contrast... i'll check for the specifics unless you have the manual or dig it up yourself after you've adjusted the screen, you can further dial it in using the Atari Color pot Edited February 16, 2021 by _The Doctor__ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonlight_mile Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 well it's not like a crt these days... what make and model insignia screen is that? usually there is a spot for red green and blue adjust... tint... temperature (warm normal cold etc)... as well as colorspace etc... i'll check for the specifics unless you have the manual or dig it up yourself Never mind. I am being dense. Yes I can adjust my set. For some unknown reason I thought that was an adjustment in the 800xl. Doh! Thanks for putting up with my ignorance. Doh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cypher007 Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 (edited) anyone got a tap point pic for a light sixer C012283 rev B PAL from 1978. id like to fit it using wires to tap points rather than ontop of the CD4050. Edited March 20, 2021 by cypher007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DrVenkman Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 Just now, cypher007 said: anyone got a tap point pic for a light sixer C012283 rev B PAL from 1978. id like to fit it using wires to tap points rather than ontop of the CD4050. The signals to the 4050 generally come from TIA directly. You can look at schematics (available on-line) to see if there's another component handy like the leg of a resistor but it's almost easier just to map them out using your multimeter in continuity mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cypher007 Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 have you got a copy of the install manual for the rev D not sure where mines gone. as i havent got a scoobies which TIA pins i need or how to fit the audio board. thank you. p.s. ive already fitted the jumper setup before i realised i could add wires direct. i assume there is still the possibility of connecting to the relevant holes next to the jumper bank? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cypher007 Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 anyone know how to install the audio board with the 2600 light sixer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cypher007 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 how do fit the audio board to a light sixer PAL? theres nothing in the instructions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cypher007 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 is it possible to solder the socket to the top of the CD4050 in a six switcher PAL and plug the UAV rev D in there or do i need to remove the CD4050? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cypher007 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 ok ive watched a vid and hooked up power to the cd4050 now both uav and rf work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+bf2k+ Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 (edited) I just installed a UAV board from TBA into an 800XL a few minutes ago. It cleared up the picture immensely but I still have no color. I am using a Commodore 1702 CRT and a cable that splits out Chroma and Luma. And the same monitor and cable work fine on a stock 130XE... plenty of color on the XE. What am I missing here? Connections: G - R66 (top) CV - MB where L9 used to be connected LU - MB where L7 used to be connected CH - Pin 5 on video port G - n/c Co In - R45 (top) Edited March 30, 2021 by bf2k+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DrVenkman Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, bf2k+ said: I just installed a UAV board from TBA into an 800XL a few minutes ago. It cleared up the picture immensely but I still have no color. I am using a Commodore 1702 CRT and a cable that splits out Chroma and Luma. And the same monitor and cable work fine on a stock 130XE... plenty of color on the XE. What am I missing here? Check your wiring - it sounds like you have LUMA connected without CHROMA. Did you wire the COL IN terminal on the UAV to the colorburst signal on the 800XL motherboard? Post pics of your installation for further help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+bf2k+ Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 1 minute ago, DrVenkman said: Check your wiring - it sounds like you have LUMA connected without CHROMA. Did you wire the COL IN terminal on the UAV to the colorburst signal on the 800XL motherboard? Post pics of your installation for further help. I wired Co In to the top of R45 per the instructions. Is there more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MacRorie Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, bf2k+ said: I wired Co In to the top of R45 per the instructions. Is there more? What version of the manual are you using? 1.94 has a correction. Verify these are your connections. Swap L9 & L7 L9 is to Luma, L7 is to Chroma Comp Video Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DrVenkman Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, bf2k+ said: I wired Co In to the top of R45 per the instructions. Is there more? Are you sure you tapped into the correct resistor? There's quite a dense row of components there and it would be easy to get the wrong one by accident. But if you have the correct component, have you wired the Chroma line from the output of the UAV to the DIN jack? If so, be sure you wired it to the correct location there too. Again, photos of the installation are much more helpful than component designations for a quick diagnosis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+bf2k+ Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 Looks like I need to swap L9 & L7 wires. I was using manual 1.92. Oh well... I'll take it apart after I eat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+bf2k+ Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 1 hour ago, bf2k+ said: Looks like I need to swap L9 & L7 wires. I was using manual 1.92. Oh well... I'll take it apart after I eat! Swapped the wires going to L9 and L7 mb points. It still didn't fix it. Duhhh... adjusted the color pot and away we go... The pot was turned all the way down on this 800XL. I think I purposely did it years ago to make the horrible XL display more readable and promptly forgot about it. Now it's the best looking 800XL video I have ever seen. I guess I'll buy 25 more UAVs... that should about cover them. (NOT) But I might do one or two more. By the way, the document I downloaded from TBA a few minutes ago was 1.93... not 1.94. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MacRorie Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 1 minute ago, bf2k+ said: By the way, the document I downloaded from TBA a few minutes ago was 1.93... not 1.94. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panther Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 What does it take to get NTSC artifacting working with the UAV's s-video? A number of people have repeated a rumor that artifacting doesn't function over s-video, but this is certainly not the case on non-UAV systems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DrVenkman Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 7 hours ago, Panther said: What does it take to get NTSC artifacting working with the UAV's s-video? A number of people have repeated a rumor that artifacting doesn't function over s-video, but this is certainly not the case on non-UAV systems. Well, there are relatively few non-UAV NTSC systems with S-video. The 800, and the 130XE do. Do NTSC 65XE’s have a video jack with chroma/luma? I know for a fact my stock-video 800’s don’t display artifacting over S-video. Do you have some examples of a system that does? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panther Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 18 minutes ago, DrVenkman said: Well, there are relatively few non-UAV NTSC systems with S-video. The 800, and the 130XE do. Do NTSC 65XE’s have a video jack with chroma/luma? I know for a fact my stock-video 800’s don’t display artifacting over S-video. Do you have some examples of a system that does? All my 800s have always displayed artifacting just fine, as have 800XLs that have had the chroma pins connected, 130XEs, and even my 600XL once the missing components were added. I never had an issue with not seeing color in games such as Ultima III and DROL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DrVenkman Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Panther said: All my 800s have always displayed artifacting just fine, Over S-video rather than composite? Do you have photos? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panther Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 S-video. Haven't used composite since my very first 800 when I used an Amdek monitor. What, you suspect I might just be seeing things? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+x=usr(1536) Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Panther said: S-video. Haven't used composite since my very first 800 when I used an Amdek monitor. What, you suspect I might just be seeing things? Yes. We all want you to inconvenience yourself solely for our amusement. Hint: asking for help while simultaneously being an ass to the people likely to help you isn't usually considered to be the best of ideas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panther Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 I'm not the person who claimed that there are few Atari's with s-video capability. What kind of statement is that? Most of them supported s-video stock. Granted, the popular 800XL lacked that chroma line for some odd reason, but at least it's an easy fix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+x=usr(1536) Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, Panther said: I'm not the person who claimed that there are few Atari's with s-video capability. What kind of statement is that? Most of them supported s-video stock. Granted, the popular 800XL lacked that chroma line for some odd reason, but at least it's an easy fix. You're right. That completely excuses you from being an ass for no very good reason at all. My bad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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