CRT Sets

[CRTGAMER]

 

I picked up a Sony Trinitron tonight, and I'm excited. I'll finally be able to play light gun games again and use those Master System 3-D glasses I bought years ago.

 

Is there a memory card slot? If so, I missed it. I don't think the highest resolution this TV has is 480i. It has component, s-video, and composite. The model number is KV-24FS120.

 

Years ago? Seriously set that TV up!

 

My mistake on the memory card slot, the combo power button with power light in the picture fooled me into thinking it was a Sony Mem Stick slot. The part number shows a 24"" diagonal and the FS indicates SD CRT. Retro Lightguns will work just fine. The smaller TV remote indicates a later generation of the flat screen 4:3 Trinitron series, Note that Sony remotes of the same era will all work, congrats on a great TV find!

 

Below is the Sony eSupport site for your TV, The PDF Manual confirms it is 480i SD tube, no 480p capability.

 

Try a PS2, Component Cables set at 480i, Guncon Lightgun Yellow in green input.

 

KV-24FS120 - https://esupport.sony.com/US/p/model-home.pl?mdl=KV24FS120

 

Specifications Sheet - https://docs.sony.com/release/specs/KV24FS120_mksp.pdf

Edited July 30, 2017 by CRTGAMER

[TheTIGuy]

Yep, but tube since the 60's aren't as curved as they should be. So even those add "front weight". You can see on the picture I posted how almost spherical the tube is. Now compare with your own TV and you'll see that the curvature is much less important.

 

 

Getting "square tubes" also seems to have added some weight to the tubes, but not as much as getting them flatter.

Funnily, you can see on modern TV how further away the end of the tube goes, as obviously, the further away the cannons are, the less curved your projecting surface need to be. Comparing a color TV from 1980 to one form 2000 is impressive, as the 1980's TV will be much thinner than the 2000's one, but with a less flat tube.

whoa.... whats the model an make of the one in the 1st pic?

[CatPix]

It's a His Master's Voice T251 made in 1951 for the French market, using the French 819 line standard.

Modified for 625 lines :

 

http://819lignes.free.fr/

Unfortunately not mine

Edited July 31, 2017 by CatPix

[TheTIGuy]

 

Yep, CRT's is the best

 

 

 

Wow, When I was houssitting for my brother on the 4th, He has 55' LCD TV, I would be bored if I didn't bring my Wii with my emulators on Component

 

I can feel the lag, No CRT's at his house at all

 

 

 

Stop what?

Arguing, as i wanted to appear neutral.

 

 

Nope.

Oh go throw your LCD-TV into a lake. PS2 and ANYTHING before it look like $#!t on a flat TV

 

Lies!!! (wait... i can change quote text?-TheTiGuy)

Yes, they are.

[+chicgamer]

Unfortunately barbers still charge full price for a haircut.

 

Just be glad you're not paying what they charge women. $$$

 

 

Years ago? Seriously set that TV up!

 

My mistake on the memory card slot, the combo power button with power light in the picture fooled me into thinking it was a Sony Mem Stick slot. The part number shows a 24"" diagonal and the FS indicates SD CRT. Retro Lightguns will work just fine. The smaller TV remote indicates a later generation of the flat screen 4:3 Trinitron series, Note that Sony remotes of the same era will all work, congrats on a great TV find!

 

Below is the Sony eSupport site for your TV, The PDF Manual confirms it is 480i SD tube, no 480p capability.

 

Try a PS2, Component Cables set at 480i, Guncon Lightgun Yellow in green input.

 

KV-24FS120 - https://esupport.sony.com/US/p/model-home.pl?mdl=KV24FS120

 

Specifications Sheet - https://docs.sony.com/release/specs/KV24FS120_mksp.pdf

 

I can't set it up yet, as I don't have room in my current place. I move in October, so I'll have my gaming room set up soon!

 

Thanks for all the info!

[derFunkenstein]

The prices for that Sony on eBay are through the roof. It's crazy.

 

I spent $20 for an Apex GT2015DV, which is a 20" tube. It's about as big as I can fit on my shelf, thanks to the amazing depth of a CRT. The DVD part doesn't work, but the TV itself is in great shape and my older consoles look good.

[tep392]

I just picked up this 24" Sony for $8. KV-24FS100

 

It's quite an upgrade from my 13" JVC.

 

[CatPix]

Found that one in the recycle centre some days back :

 

Cutesy 36cm Trinitron, KV-14LM1B, made in Spain .

 

(boy, I have a hard time remembering when I last saw a sticker in French on general electronic stuff)

Perfectly working.

(same model, but more modern casing, in case you ever wondered how the back of most Euro TVs looks like )

[+chicgamer]

I wish I had a TV with a SCART input! My plan is to get a SCART to component converter since I use RGB output from many of my old consoles.

[Asaki]

My plan is to get a SCART to component converter since I use RGB output from many of my old consoles.

I wanted to get some type of RGB->component converter, but they're more expensive than I thought they would be.

 

My old IBM computer monitor takes RGB, if I could ever get around to figuring out how to recap it =|

[keepdreamin]

I wish I had a TV with a SCART input! My plan is to get a SCART to component converter since I use RGB output from many of my old consoles.

I wanted to get some type of RGB->component converter, but they're more expensive than I thought they would be.My old IBM computer monitor takes RGB, if I could ever get around to figuring out how to recap it =|

They're not that expensive.

 

Grab this

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-SCART-RGB-to-YUV-Component-Video-Converter-Scaler-/221156873851

 

And this

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Scart-to-Audio-Extractor-for-Component-YUV-RGB-Video-Converter-CVS287-CSY-2100-/221190880604

 

I'd grab them now while they're still readily available.

[+chicgamer]

 

They're not that expensive.

 

Grab this

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-SCART-RGB-to-YUV-Component-Video-Converter-Scaler-/221156873851

 

And this

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Scart-to-Audio-Extractor-for-Component-YUV-RGB-Video-Converter-CVS287-CSY-2100-/221190880604

 

I'd grab them now while they're still readily available.

 

Any experience with that converter in the first link? I bought one of the cheap SCART to composite/s-video converters like in the second link, and I could only get a black-and-white image out of it. Maybe I'll open it up at some point to see if I notice anything I can fix so that it outputs the video correctly.

 

I was considering this converter. It was linked to from the RetroRGB site.

[+Swami]

I wish I knew where in this five state area of MN, WI, IA ND, SD, there was a warehouse with NOS CRTs 25"-27". And not the True-Flats, which mess with light gun and DDR games around the edges, I want the ones that are a little rounded. You can get plenty of used ones that work well on Craig's List for free, actually they are mostly 32"+ behemouths that no one wants to take to recycling center, but they are 20 years old and how much longer will they go? 25-35 year total lifetime, with about 30 average, I think.

[DJ Clae]

On HDTV's it's Framemeisted or the highway. Stop drilling HDMI holes in your consoles.

[keepdreamin]

Any experience with that converter in the first link? I bought one of the cheap SCART to composite/s-video converters like in the second link, and I could only get a black-and-white image out of it. Maybe I'll open it up at some point to see if I notice anything I can fix so that it outputs the video correctly.

 

I was considering this converter. It was linked to from the RetroRGB site.

I have that very converter I posted. Works well enough, no complaints. It's a clone of the CSY-2100. You can see they've sold a ton of them.

 

You want that accessory I posted in the second link as well. Pulls stereo sound from the scart lead so you can plug RCA cables to your TV's inputs. The actual converter box just handles the video portion

Edited August 2, 2017 by keepdreamin

[+chicgamer]

I have that very converter I posted. Works well enough, no complaints. It's a clone of the CSY-2100. You can see they've sold a ton of them.

 

You want that accessory I posted in the second link as well. Pulls stereo sound from the scart lead so you can plug RCA cables to your TV's inputs. The actual converter box just handles the video portion

 

So the video just passes through the other converter, then? You hook your SCART cable to it to pull out the audio and then put the other end into the SCART to component converter?

 

The one I have is identical to the one you linked, except that it also outputs s-video in addition to composite (well, it's supposed to, at least).

[keepdreamin]

 

So the video just passes through the other converter, then? You hook your SCART cable to it to pull out the audio and then put the other end into the SCART to component converter?

 

The one I have is identical to the one you linked, except that it also outputs s-video in addition to composite (well, it's supposed to, at least).

 

Correct, the audio extractor isn't a converter. It just passes the video along, so you plug that up to the $50 component box, and then plug your consoles' RGB scart cable into the input side of the audio extractor... Your Red Green Blue RCA component cables plug from the back of the converter box to your tv. Your Red and White stereo cables plug from the extractor to the tv.

 

 

I'm not familiar with the box you're talking about (or why you'd bother converting RGB to svideo), but this rgb to component box puts out a very nice picture.

Edited August 2, 2017 by keepdreamin

[keepdreamin]

On HDTV's it's Framemeisted or the highway. Stop drilling HDMI holes in your consoles.

 

Not in all cases. The ULTRA 64 hdmi mod is a better solution than the Framemeister. It taps directly into the N64's digital RGB signal. There's no analog conversion, no noise, no lag. Plus the deblur function works wonders.

[+chicgamer]

 

Correct, the audio extractor isn't a converter. It just passes the video along, so you plug that up to the $50 component box, and then plug your consoles' RGB scart cable into the input side of the audio extractor... Your Red Green Blue RCA component cables plug from the back of the converter box to your tv. Your Red and White stereo cables plug from the extractor to the tv.

 

 

I'm not familiar with the box you're talking about (or why you'd bother converting RGB to svideo), but this rgb to component box puts out a very nice picture.

 

Here's the cheap adapter I bought. On my primary television (a 40" LCD), I use a SCART to HDMI converter. I thought maybe I could use that adapter to use my consoles that output RGB on my other, older LCD that has s-video inputs. That didn't work so well.

 

In other news, I now have an opportunity to buy a Sony Trinitron KD-32XS945 for $100 (maybe less—it's listed for $100, but she told me to make her an offer). Would I be stupid to pass this up? It even includes the optional stand.

[godslabrat]

In-laws just lost their last CRT. I offered to dispose of it for them, but it's proving to be more difficult than you'd expect. Can't throw it out, but none of the recycling centers take them. It doesn't work, at all, so I can't donate it.

 

I'm about ready to dissect it in the garage and let it go a piece at a time...

[Asaki]

I wish I knew where in this five state area of MN, WI, IA ND, SD, there was a warehouse with NOS CRTs 25"-27". ... You can get plenty of used ones that work well on Craig's List for free, actually they are mostly 32"+ behemouths that no one wants to take to recycling center, but they are 20 years old and how much longer will they go? 25-35 year total lifetime, with about 30 average, I think.

It's usually the caps that go bad, and if I'm not mistaken, that's typically because of age, so it won't make much difference if they've been used or they've been sitting in a warehouse.

Edited August 2, 2017 by Asaki

[CatPix]

Age and not being used.

In fact, sitting unused is more damaging for electrolytic caps than extensive usage, so NOS TV would likely be bead before the used TV out there.

It's why it's strongly advised to use your electronics at least once a month, for 15/30 minutes.

 

Of course, in both cases, a NOS one would come with unused tube, flywheel transformer, non-cracked solder joints so for someone that know his stuff, the NOS is a better choice.

But for someone looking for a ready-to-use solution, an used one in working state is a safer bet.

[Keatah]

The industry shoved these into your house. Now they won't let you get rid of them.

 

Just break it up bit by bit and trash it that way. Somebody's gotta do it sooner or later.

[+Swami]

The industry shoved these into your house. Now they won't let you get rid of them.

 

Just break it up bit by bit and trash it that way. Somebody's gotta do it sooner or later.

Pardon? Oh, post further up.

[dj_convoy]

Gonna be a pain in the ass when my nice Phillips 32 inch with s-video and component bites the bullet. I think it's from the early 2000s, so it has some life left (hopefully), but still, my setup requires that kind of input.

 

On the other hand, my tiny little 13 inch tv I got for like my sixteenth or seventeenth birthday that all of my RF consoles are hooked up to is still hummin' along twenty plus years hence.