Mclaneinc Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Is this possible apart from output to the printer window? Can I use a pc hooked up printer and if yes apart from enabling the P: device and the 850 how could I make something like Print shop work? Its one hell of a long time ago since I had my Epson 80 with graftrax chips in.... I chose print shop as I presume it has printer drivers on it? Any help appreciated... Just tried from scratch and nothing happened hence the question... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Epson MX-80 F/T with GrafTrax III and Orange Micro Grappler interface card and Practical Peripherals inline Microbuffer... FOR THE WIN!! That was seemingly the ultimate setup for printing back in the day. And all of it cost half as much as the computer itself. Regarding emulators and printing. This is a sore spot because no one thinks it important. Is it technically possible? Of course it is. High-time that emulators start moving up and supporting more than just games. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted January 1, 2017 Author Share Posted January 1, 2017 I bow to your superior hardware Sir... Even at staff discount I could barely afford the FX80 as I was still paying off the 800, 810 and 850....OWWWWWWW Maplin owned most of me As for printing, I can understand the reticence but it would be nice to do the full retro thing BUT its not my time and effort at stake here so I bow (again) to Phaerons time and effort. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 All we can do is ask. And it is OK to ask. The devs aren't going to go scurrying off into never never land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted January 1, 2017 Author Share Posted January 1, 2017 Of course they won't I refer to serj's rather mangled request for Williams carts to be fixed, between warm Vodka, a translator and way of speaking it all got jumbled A lot of the most interesting parts of Altirra have come from requests.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 I financed some of the printer setup I had going. I borrowed money from my parents and took advance payment for summer jobs. Then once I got it all set up. I opened a printing "business". Printing homework papers, BASIC listings, and of course PrintShop banners and flyers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Of course they won't I refer to serj's rather mangled request for Williams carts to be fixed, between warm Vodka, a translator and way of speaking it all got jumbled Maybe those automated robotic youtube voices could be useful? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted January 1, 2017 Author Share Posted January 1, 2017 You proper little business person Great thinking though, business acumen is a great gift to have.. As for the voice, you have me thinking of Serj sounding like the voice in War Games (the film) "do you want to play a game" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farb Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Virtual ][ (an Apple II emulator for the Mac) lets you print to PDF as if it was an Apple printer. It was quite fun re-making Print Shop signs that I used to plaster on my door as a kid :-) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechanicjay Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 (edited) The Atari800 emulator (on linux at least) lets you the capture output to P: handler. I have a virtual PDF printer installed, which captures the output to PDF. It works okay for straight text...it's a crap shoot for programs which use their own drivers and what not. Graphics is a no-go. I haven't played with it much, but it *might* be possible to cajole CUPS into doing to the right thing with graphics stuff. Edited January 3, 2017 by Mechanicjay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted January 4, 2017 Author Share Posted January 4, 2017 Altirra will print but the output is to the S: or the internal printer screen and like yours graphics area no go. To be fair the likelihood of me using Print shop or the like all the time to print stuff is minimal but if it were to happen via emulation it adds to the all in one feel but I can't code out of a bag so its one of those things that happen if they happen and I'm happy with that You PDF thing sounds interesting, the graphics side would be amazing if it was possible to add? Good luck Paul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baktra Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Perhaps it is time to write libatari1029, libatari1027 and especially libteslaBT100 printer emulation libraries (if these do not exist already). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddtmw Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Bump. Is this posible? Can I print from printshop to something that I could then print on a modern printer connected to my Windows computer? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted May 28, 2017 Author Share Posted May 28, 2017 As of this moment on Altirra, no.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irgendwer Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Is this posible? Can I print from printshop to something that I could then print on a modern printer connected to my Windows computer? It is somewhat possible: http://atariage.com/forums/topic/254661-who-else-would-like-to-see-an-open-source-printer-emulator-for-the-atari/page-2?do=findComment&comment=3765504 Regarding the emulator: * "Altirra" seems currently not to be able to handle binary data * "Atari800" seems to be capable to redirect/fetch printing data but I had at least the problem to fetch parts of it as single job (concatenating doesn't work if you have to check your output for e.g. the "Print Shop" calibration, and Atari800 doesn't like if his file is accessed/cleared externally while running) * "atari++" allows to close/access the job after an adjustable time and allowed me to get/clear the dump in an intuitive way 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 (edited) Atari800MacX works perfectly. I printed a Print Shop job for a "retro" thing I was doing, and it created a PDF I was able to open in Preview and print. I don't know if there's a Windows equivalent of that emulator. As I stated a few days ago, there doesn't seem to be anything in Altirra to "capture" ESC/P output. If there was, I'd just tack my interpreter onto it. Edited May 28, 2017 by Starman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted May 29, 2017 Author Share Posted May 29, 2017 @Irwendwer Wow that's a strange but fun way @Starman Yes there's a Windows version of that emu, you will find it (if you want it) on the Atari800 site with all the other flavours. http://atari800.sourceforge.net/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoSch Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 Yes there's a Windows version of that emu, you will find it (if you want it) on the Atari800 site with all the other flavours. http://atari800.sourceforge.net/ Esc/p emu is Atari800MacX only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted May 29, 2017 Author Share Posted May 29, 2017 Ah, its a branch.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 It should be easy to take the branch and pull it into Altirra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoSch Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 No, the emulation code is written in Objective-C, but Altirra is C++. It's possible, but far from easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 It shouldn't matter. I've converted C++ to Obj. C before. It's just classes and logic, it's not magic. I'd do it myself but I don't do Windows anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle22 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 I would like to see a No Translation (at all, RAW) datastream, and an exact 850 Emulation mode. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoSch Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 (edited) It shouldn't matter. I've converted C++ to Obj. C before. It's just classes and logic, it's not magic. I'd do it myself but I don't do Windows anymore. I never said, it's impossible. I just stated, that it is not easy. And that would just be the language conversion. There is also the environment conversion. Just because it's an object, it's not an drop in. Edited May 30, 2017 by JoSch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoSch Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 I would like to see a No Translation (at all, RAW) datastream, and an exact 850 Emulation mode. What would be the use of that? Is there any software, which doesn't account for an 850 for printing? E.g. Print Shop just print 7 graphic lines, then advances the paper accordingly to circumvent the EOL conversion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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