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I've seen several posts about the 1027 letter quality printer and its uselessness due to rotted print heads. It seems like a neat piece of machinery with the rotating print head and the striker, and I would love to see one in action. I have two of these printers with mostly intact print heads, which I don't intend to ever turn on (I know the print head will self destruct).

 

How hard would it be to take a mold of the print head and use it to cast new print heads out of a more stable material, such as silicone? Alternatively, how hard would it be to take a 3D scan of the print head and use the scan to create a mold? Has anyone tried something like this?

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On the two 1027s I have, the heads were so soft that the characters got mushed just from touching them. I doubt they would survive removal and handling to pull a mold.

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Just curious... what kind of material are the printing heads made from?

 

- Michael

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Just curious... what kind of material are the printing heads made from?

 

- Michael

Corn starch. :P

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I also have two 1027's, and I would be willing to help pay for some research to replace the rubber material on the print heads.

I've been thinking for some time about getting a couple from Best and making molds myself.

 

DavidMil

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To avoid the print heads getting mushed by only touching them, I guess it might help to put them in the freezer for a while before creating the mold.

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I don't have a 1027 any more, but I'd buy one if I keep one working. I loved mine, along with the 1020 plotter.

 

I'd back a Kickstarter.

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http://sirsillyboy.deviantart.com/gallery/26059930/Atari-1027-Printer

 

Needs to be made of neoprene to be oil resistant to oil based inks,

which are still the majority available.

 

Casting I doubt will work due to soft result, high temperature

pressure molding is probably the only way to make one that will

out perform the original in the first place. That is the goal,

right?

 

Some dense RTV and polyurethane car suspension bushing casting

materials look promising though for the casting approach.

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Problem is that there may be no way to know exactly how hard or soft the original heads were designed to be. By now, even unused new old stock ones will have been rendered mushy by Father Time.

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I've seen custom red rubber stamps being made from blank stock on a laser cutter. Would it be possible to laser cut replacements from a high quality synthetic rubber belt of some sort? Maybe something automotive/industrial grade that can handle oil exposure?

 

From the limited pictures I've seen, the mechanism reminds me of a rubber date stamp. Maybe there's some possibility in the process that manufactures those? (I assume those use water based inks, though.)

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It sounds like a machine gun as the calculator like print head smacks the crap out of the paper.... the Atari is such a musical computer!

 

I do have a proplem... my last ink roller is dead..... :(

It faded out........

 

it shared that part with what other printing devices?

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http://dereatari.republika.pl/serw.htm#Drukarki

You may find this webpage useful. It is hosted by jer, a qualified technician worked at Atari authorized repair center for years.

In Printers section, there is a diagram of 1027 printing head with all the dimensions. And an idea, how to refurbish a worn out one:

"Durability of [rubber] band with fonts is limited, so after more than 30 years (actual age of this equipment) it hardens, becomes brittle and breaks making the printer unusable. To get a replacement font band, you may try to order a custom flexographic plate, or just ask at inking stamp shop. Several attempts may be required to match the appropriate dimensions of the band to the printing head. But, you may elaborate a few new bands with different font styles and charsets."

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http://dereatari.republika.pl/serw.htm#Drukarki

 

You may find this webpage useful. It is hosted by jer, a qualified technician worked at Atari authorized repair center for years.

 

In Printers section, there is a diagram of 1027 printing head with all the dimensions. And an idea, how to refurbish a worn out one:

 

"Durability of [rubber] band with fonts is limited, so after more than 30 years (actual age of this equipment) it hardens, becomes brittle and breaks making the printer unusable. To get a replacement font band, you may try to order a custom flexographic plate, or just ask at inking stamp shop. Several attempts may be required to match the appropriate dimensions of the band to the printing head. But, you may elaborate a few new bands with different font styles and charsets."

 

Any way to get that translated to English? I would really like to look into this!

David Milsop

Kingwood, Texas

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Beyond

https://translate.google.com/

 

Not a clue. Drop the url into the box and click on BLUE Translate.

 

I then saved the page under File dropdown in toolbar, but it remains

to be seen if it works as expected once I'm offline and my DSL modem

can't reach out to get the real deal on the webby thing. So YMMV

warning applies to all.

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Thanks to member "freetz" - who donated a 1027 - I'm working on a solution.

(I've owned one back then but sold it before it dispersed.)

Please wait for the Abbuc Hardware Contest, I'll try to meet this deadline.

 

 

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Thanks to member "freetz" - who donated a 1027 - I'm working on a solution.

(I've owned one back then but sold it before it dispersed.)

Please wait for the Abbuc Hardware Contest, I'll try to meet this deadline.

 

 

 

If you are successful, I would like to buy 2 of them myself.

 

Thanks,

David Milsop

Kingwood, Texas

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I've seen custom red rubber stamps being made from blank stock on a laser cutter. Would it be possible to laser cut replacements from a high quality synthetic rubber belt of some sort? Maybe something automotive/industrial grade that can handle oil exposure?

Yes.

I did it that way 8 years ago.

You can buy a "sheet" of that stamp

material, and laser it with a CO2 Laser.

I have to admit however, I changed my

profession short after it with the result,

I did not have access to a laser anymore.

So after a while, I forgot about it.

The first proto"type" was "usable" but

I was not satisfied. The glue I used, to

apply the rubber on the wheel was the wrong

one for that job.

But to answer your question, YES it is possible.

I'll try to find the regarding corel draw file.

and upload it then.

 

Stefan

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Yes.

I did it that way 8 years ago.

You can buy a "sheet" of that stamp

material, and laser it with a CO2 Laser.

I have to admit however, I changed my

profession short after it with the result,

I did not have access to a laser anymore.

So after a while, I forgot about it.

The first proto"type" was "usable" but

I was not satisfied. The glue I used, to

apply the rubber on the wheel was the wrong

one for that job.

But to answer your question, YES it is possible.

I'll try to find the regarding corel draw file.

and upload it then.

 

Stefan

 

I would really like to get that file if you find it. Repairing Atari products has become a driving hobby for me since I've retired.

 

Thanks so much,

David Milsop

Kingwood, Texas

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I would really like to get that file if you find it. Repairing Atari products has become a driving hobby for me since I've retired.

 

Thanks so much,

David Milsop

Kingwood, Texas

Here you are...

Please rename the files from *.txt to *.cdr.

"I'm not allowed to upload this kind of file".

The program I used to draw it named

CorelDraw Version 13, by the way.

The latest version is 17.

If you like to have a different file type,

just drop me a note ;-)

 

Stefan

 

 

uhh, ohh... and ... by the way, if somebody produce

that roller head... I'd like to buy one :grin:

Typen-negativ.txt

Typen Vers12.txt

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If I can make working heads from your information, I'll send you one for free! I also want to keep up with Irgendwer

to see how he is progressing. It looks like I'm going to have to breakdown and buy a newer copy of Corel Draw. Mine

is version 9. I have a feeling it's going to take several tries with different materials to get this right.

Thank you for the info, and I'll keep you posted.

 

David Milsop

Kingwood, Texas

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.... It looks like I'm going to have to breakdown and buy a newer copy of Corel Draw. Mine

is version 9.....

 

David Milsop

Kingwood, Texas

No problem at all.

I can downgrade the version number.

To late today. Please give me another

day ;)

 

Stefan

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No problem at all.

I can downgrade the version number.

To late today. Please give me another

day ;)

 

Stefan

 

If you can't, do not worry about it. I can work with what you gave me.

 

Thanks so much,

David Milsop

Kingwood, Texas

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Well, sorry...

It tooked more than a day. As already mentioned,

the latest Corel - Version is X8 (18).

The oldest version I´m able to downgrade to is 11.

But I attached a zip file with an eps version too.

You should be able to open it in any drawing program.

 

Good luck !!!

 

Stefan

 

1027_Typen.zip

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I've talked to seven rubber stamp/custom stamp making companies (across the country) and they all said the same thing;

"You're going to have to have a injection mold made."

So I'm still looking...

 

David

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