Dreamcast game prices

[kyle]

Picked up a Dreamcast cheap today at a local store and went on eBay to pick up a few games. The prices especially on the shoot em ups are just crazy high. Games like Gunbird 2, Gogawing etc. Is this a new trend or are these games always that pricey? I haven't had a Dreamcast since like 2004 and I had no idea what the market was like.

Edited January 30, 2017 by kyle

[kyle]

I meant to post this in classic gaming gen

Edited January 30, 2017 by kyle

[+davidcalgary29]

Neither did I, until I went looking for Soul Calibur and Crazy Taxi on eBay last week. And someone wants $50 for D2! That's about $100 $CAD with shipping! Yeesh.

[spacecadet]

Picked up a Dreamcast cheap today at a local store and went on eBay to pick up a few games. The prices especially on the shoot em ups are just crazy high. Games like Gunbird 2, Gogawing etc. Is this a new trend or are these games always that pricey? I haven't had a Dreamcast since like 2004 and I had no idea what the market was like.

 

Those particular games have been that high for a long time. They are uncommon at least.

 

The DC has at least 5-10 really good shmups but they are almost all pretty pricey.

 

There are a lot of common games for the system in the $5 range, but they're going to be things like sports games, platformers and racing games. There are definitely some gems you can get for cheap, but I'm not sure if *any* of the shmups are cheap from what I can remember. Expendable might be the closest thing to a cheap shmup on the DC.

Edited January 30, 2017 by spacecadet

[sdamike]

Expendable is a great game for cheap

[Tanooki]

The Capcom games are the problem, not just the shooters as far as US games go. It's abnormal across platform, but normal because Capcom fans really suck up to the Dreamcast library (Res Evil aside) for like the best releases of said games so they get crazy expensive. The only non-RE Capcom game I think you can buy for under $50 is SNK vs Capcom (talking complete in nice shape, not loose.)

 

Dreamcast on the whole is cheap. Most of the library complete can be had between $5-30 and much of that more in the center of it ($10-20 range.) There are a few that pop into the $30-50 area but they're justifiably really that good and still in perspective cheap as it's less than original retail for a system going on 18 years old now with a fan base behind it too. The only ones over $50 not-Capcom I can think of are Illbleed and Skies of Arcadia.

 

If you're not adverse to burns, you could grab something like the Capcom Fighting Collection for like $15-20 off ebay from a guy who makes them. I ordered that, Propeller Arena, and Rez off this person and he uses a similar screening technique for the disc ink Sega uses, high quality industrial type discs (not your over the counter best buy/amazon junk types), and prints out back art and front art (no manual) with 3000dpi images on quality paper. His disc ink matches the retail games side by side. That CFC set has Super SF2, SNK vs Capcom 2 Millionaire Fighting, Marvel vs Capcom 2, SF3 Third Strike, Super Puzzle Fighter, and oddly (since you noted shooters) Ikaruga is on there too.

Edited January 30, 2017 by Tanooki

[kyle]

The Capcom games are the problem, not just the shooters as far as US games go. It's abnormal across platform, but normal because Capcom fans really suck up to the Dreamcast library (Res Evil aside) for like the best releases of said games so they get crazy expensive. The only non-RE Capcom game I think you can buy for under $50 is SNK vs Capcom (talking complete in nice shape, not loose.)

 

Dreamcast on the whole is cheap. Most of the library complete can be had between $5-30 and much of that more in the center of it ($10-20 range.) There are a few that pop into the $30-50 area but they're justifiably really that good and still in perspective cheap as it's less than original retail for a system going on 18 years old now with a fan base behind it too. The only ones over $50 not-Capcom I can think of are Illbleed and Skies of Arcadia.

 

If you're not adverse to burns, you could grab something like the Capcom Fighting Collection for like $15-20 off ebay from a guy who makes them. I ordered that, Propeller Arena, and Rez off this person and he uses a similar screening technique for the disc ink Sega uses, high quality industrial type discs (not your over the counter best buy/amazon junk types), and prints out back art and front art (no manual) with 3000dpi images on quality paper. His disc ink matches the retail games side by side. That CFC set has Super SF2, SNK vs Capcom 2 Millionaire Fighting, Marvel vs Capcom 2, SF3 Third Strike, Super Puzzle Fighter, and oddly (since you noted shooters) Ikaruga is on there too.

Can you give me a link to his stuff on eBay or where I can contact him ?

[Tanooki]

He doesn't have anything up at the moment, but here's his account: http://www.ebay.com/sch/dreamliveson/m.html

dreamliveson <-ebay id

 

I'd just write him. He can do pretty much anything. The only downer I suppose on him, he has done a few legit US games that get into the $100+ range but he marks those are a reproduction on the ebay listing itself. Personally I don't care, people need to be informed what they're buying as it's their own fault for not reading, looking, or asking questions.

[icemanxp300]

Anybody can burn a dreamcast game themselves if they have a burner. It doesn't get much easier than that.

[spacecadet]

The Capcom games are the problem, not just the shooters as far as US games go.

It's not just Capcom, it's all shooters. Bangai-O and Ikaruga are both from Treasure - both in the $70-$100 range. Rez for DC is about $70 for the Japanese or $100 for the Euro version. Zero Gunner 2 is a $150 game.

 

Capcom made more shooters than anybody else, but basically every shooter on the system is expensive regardless of publisher.

[Austin]

Dreamcast is like any other platform--its more sought after games have been going up in price for a long time. Many are late US releases where there probably aren't that many copies to go around to begin with (Giga Wing 2, Mars Matrix, Cannon Spike, etc). Going the import route has generally been cheaper, but those are rising in price as well.

[Tanooki]

Bangaioh you can still get for $50 or less with patience and not just get into a ebay bid war or pay some twit with a high BIN. I've considered it a few times so far in the last month and they ended under that, but I backed off as i have the n64 game already. Ikaruga and Rez I left off as I was talking about US only games, so yes you're right. Dreamcast on the whole is probably the most affordable complete in box system to snatch stuff up for at this rate because even the SMS in the last year has gotten stupid and Genesis is right there with it if you don't stay cart only. Not Nintendo bad but it's going up.

[+-^CrossBow^-]

I realize this might not help, but if you are even thinking about picking up any of the later released NGDEV shooters, this is the perfect and cheapest way to get started on three of their best games.

 

http://www.ngdevdirect.com/product_info.php?cPath=21_23&products_id=90

 

Not sure for how much longer they will offer this bundle release of re-releases for the Dreamcast.

[Tanooki]

Damn they delayed it again? It said February less than a week ago. I wanted to order that package. Very annoying. Personally rather have them on my NeoGeo arcade cabinet, but their prices on the kits are just asininely expensive.

[NinjaWarrior]

Do people that buy $80 Game to play them or just put it in the shelf never to be played?

[Jaymiester]

Dunno about others, but I have a complete US Dreamcast collection and I never play them using the original disc. Don't want to risk scratching them up, so mine are just sitting on a shelf.

However I do play the games, but I use my GDEMU Modded Dreamcast instead. Much easier and quicker than pulling out the disc. Highly recommended if you don't have one.

 

Damn good thing they didn't have these kind of mods when I was 15, cuz I'd probably be a 50 year old Virgin if they did!!

Edited February 5, 2017 by Jaymiester

[icemanxp300]

I don't think anybody spends $80 for a game they want to "just play" when they can play it for a $.25 cd. Although on new homebrews people might pay that but that price is pretty steep in my opinion. Games brand new didn't retail that high.

[+wongojack]

I have the whole DC library downloaded somewhere. I looked into it and to burn them I need to install some driver to get my disk drive to spin slow enough to burn at the right rate. I gave up because I just don't really want to play DC games THAT bad. Also, the time to burn each game even if the settings are all correct is non trivial. I realize its not hard, but if anyone came up with a decent price for doing all the work for me, I'd be interested - even if it was on OTC disks.

[Tanooki]

I'd pay $80 but it would be an exceptionally rare situation. I guess I'm in the wrong but I have little respect for burns/roms on a card. I fall back on those though when it comes to a choice of having to mod a device (that won't read another regions discs) or scalping filth have made games prohibitively expensive. I've paid back in the later 90s around $75-80 shipped for an immaculate complete in box Macross Scrambled Valkyrie for the Super Famicom and never regretted it as I played the hell out of that game. I put up similar money for Dracula X PCECD in the later 90s too. Usually though and really with the increasing scalping in the last 6 years I've set a hard figure I rarely violate which is to not pay higher than the original retail price for a used game (if it's a cartridge game, the game alone will do) but if it's a thin game card (SD card sized or less) or anything optical media it's complete or screw it. Cards are too easy to misplace and odds are a complete game won't have a crap disc as someone showed some level of care not to mangle the casing.

 

That three pack of NGDev neo-geo to Dreamcast games there I'd pay the $80 for the 3 to be shipped to me from Europe, no questions or concerned asked as I've seen enough to know I'd use and reuse those games until finished or burned out on them. Yet I will not play some punk on ebay making copies or selling legit versions of it the usual $50 they seem to fly for individually.

[icemanxp300]

That three pack of NGDev neo-geo to Dreamcast games there I'd pay the $80 for the 3

 

$80 for 3 isn't that bad. I was assuming Ninja Warrior was talking about some single game for $80 as that is kind of what he said lol.