luckybuck Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Hi together, Now, we have the source codes and binaries of: 1.) Action 3.62.) Basic XL 1.033.) Basic XE 4.24.) Integer Basic 1.00 C5.) Mac/65 with DDT 3.66.) The Writer's Tool 2.257.) Tiny C+ 1.1 So, who is making a OSS 7 in 1 cartridge of this for the real hardware? Maybe even better a flash cart, so always the new version can be used. :-))) 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 I know santosp (Panos) did an amazing job on his 5 in 1 OSS cart. Not sure if he has time do do it once more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentarian Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Are the 5 in 1 OSS carts upgradable? I've never popped the hood on mine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DrVenkman Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 I've already got one of Steve Tucker's excellent Action! repro carts and just ordered a MAC/65 cart (yeah, I'm a sucker for dead programming languages and the 8-bit cartridge form factor) ... But I'd totally be up for something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEditor Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 I have both versions of santos 5-in-1 carts and love them. I would love to see him create a new one with the final versions of the languages with all the fixes implemented. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle22 Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 The EPROM is soldered in in mine (and all of them IIRC). It was a clearance issue with the case. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gozar Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Wouldn't the Ultimate Cart or Unocart be more flexible? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamer-stu Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 I believe that there are both SpartaDos stacked and non-stacked versions of OSS language multicart project files for the AtariMax 8Mbit flash carts. They're available in the AtariMax forums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle22 Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Wouldn't the Ultimate Cart or Unocart be more flexible? Yes, that's why I have an OSS directory on my Ultimate SD Cart. I can put every version of everything OSS made in there. I am not knocking the 5 in 1 at all. I just wished they had found a low enough profile socket to use. Personally, I would have used press-fit socket pins like we did on the Sweet-16. That only raises the chip a couple mm higher than being soldered in. The only difference is that you need your PCB to have larger than normal holes for the pins. It looks like Michael used them on the TK-II as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+David_P Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 My only complaint about the Sweet 16 was using such soft gold on the pins; removing it more than once or twice means that pins break off. (If anyone is looking for a FTe Sweet 16, please let me know). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mytek Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Personally, I would have used press-fit socket pins like we did on the Sweet-16. That only raises the chip a couple mm higher than being soldered in. The only difference is that you need your PCB to have larger than normal holes for the pins. It looks like Michael used them on the TK-II as well. Yep that is what I did on the piggy-backed version of TK-II, but not on the all in one stereo board. I needed to be able to insert a signal in-between on that one, hence the more conventional approach with the staggered double pin headers. Using the press fit pins really maintains a very low profile. In fact it's so low, that in certain machines I had to add a machine pin socket to raise it up and get some extra clearance. Any luck on finding a new source for those pins? - Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle22 Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Not yet. Which ones did you use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a8isa1 Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Hi together, Now, we have the source codes and binaries of: 1.) Action 3.6 2.) Basic XL 1.03 3.) Basic XE 4.2 4.) Integer Basic 1.00 C 5.) Mac/65 with DDT 3.6 6.) The Writer's Tool 2.25 7.) Tiny C+ 1.1 So, who is making a OSS 7 in 1 cartridge of this for the real hardware? Maybe even better a flash cart, so always the new version can be used. :-))) Would you please post links to information regarding the Integer BASIC and the tiny C+? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckybuck Posted March 1, 2017 Author Share Posted March 1, 2017 Sorry, did assume, you aleady knew. https://atariwiki.org/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=OSS%20Integer%20Basic https://atariwiki.org/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=C#section-C-OSSTinyCCopyrightC1978TinyCAssociates1982OSSInc.ThomasA.GibsonAndScottB.Guthery In case you also missed the new versions from 2016 of these: https://atariwiki.org/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=Basic%20XE https://atariwiki.org/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=Mac65 too. Still missing: •) Assembler Editor Cartridge Source Code•) Atari Macro Assembler and Program Text Editor (AMAC) Source Code•) OSS EASMD Source Code•) OSS BASIC A+ Source Code•) BUG/65 Source Code or: https://atariwiki.org/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=Rarity%2010 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Would you please post links to information regarding the Integer BASIC... There's also information and discussion about Integer BASIC here: OSS D-Day Part 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEditor Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 1.) Action 3.62.) Basic XL 1.033.) Basic XE 4.24.) Integer Basic 1.00 C5.) Mac/65 with DDT 3.66.) The Writer's Tool 2.257.) Tiny C+ 1.1 Links to all of the above would be nice. I would love to load a directory on my Ultimate Card filled with them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckybuck Posted March 5, 2017 Author Share Posted March 5, 2017 O. K., here we go: 1.) Action 3.6 https://atariwiki.org/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=ACTION#section-ACTION-ROMImages2.) Basic XL 1.03 https://atariwiki.org/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=Basic%20XL3.) Basic XE 4.2 https://atariwiki.org/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=Basic%20XE4.) Integer Basic 1.00 C https://atariwiki.org/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=OSS%20Integer%20Basic5.) Mac/65 with DDT 3.6 https://atariwiki.org/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=Mac656.) The Writer's Tool 2.25 https://atariwiki.org/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=The%20WriterS%20Tool7.) Tiny C+ 1.1 https://atariwiki.org/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=C#section-C-OSSTinyCCopyrightC1978TinyCAssociates1982OSSInc.ThomasA.GibsonAndScottB.Guthery Have fun 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEditor Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 woohoo, thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillC Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 (edited) On 2/28/2017 at 6:08 PM, Kyle22 said: Personally, I would have used press-fit socket pins like we did on the Sweet-16. That only raises the chip a couple mm higher than being soldered in. The only difference is that you need your PCB to have larger than normal holes for the pins. Millmax makes low-profile machine pin sockets that reduce the clearance by only 0.95"/2.41mm, and the pins are only 0.030" diameter, perhaps these would work. https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Mill-Max/115-47-628-41-003000?qs=5aG0NVq1C4ygBWib0xQNYw%3D%3D Edited December 6, 2021 by BillC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StickJock Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 2 hours ago, BillC said: Millmax makes low-profile machine pin sockets that reduce the clearance by only 0.95"/2.41mm, and the pins are only 0.030" diameter, perhaps these would work. https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Mill-Max/115-47-628-41-003000?qs=5aG0NVq1C4ygBWib0xQNYw%3D%3D 0.95" is, well, almost a full inch! That is quite the reduction in clearance! Methinks this measurement is possibly incorrect. ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillC Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 1 hour ago, StickJock said: 0.95" is, well, almost a full inch! That is quite the reduction in clearance! Methinks this measurement is possibly incorrect. ? A typo, only 0.095", the metric measurement given of 2.41mm is correct. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santosp Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Hello to all, I wonder if "Tiny C+" exist somewhere in Cartridge .bin form. I see its existence only in floppy disc files. I ask because just now I finished a new 5 in 1 prototype cartridge, who fitting in the new shell from Sikor. As I was wondering what I could do with the extra 3 empty places of eeprom, I came across this thread. This cartridge have also a socketed 1 Megabit eeprom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckybuck Posted January 19, 2022 Author Share Posted January 19, 2022 Hi santosp, no cart for Tiny C, post #17 is the latest of all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenames99 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 On 2/28/2017 at 9:38 PM, David_P said: My only complaint about the Sweet 16 was using such soft gold on the pins; removing it more than once or twice means that pins break off. (If anyone is looking for a FTe Sweet 16, please let me know). hi, I am looking, do you have some? Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reifsnyderb Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 On 2/28/2017 at 1:07 PM, luckybuck said: Hi together, Now, we have the source codes and binaries of: 1.) Action 3.6 2.) Basic XL 1.03 3.) Basic XE 4.2 4.) Integer Basic 1.00 C 5.) Mac/65 with DDT 3.6 6.) The Writer's Tool 2.25 7.) Tiny C+ 1.1 So, who is making a OSS 7 in 1 cartridge of this for the real hardware? Maybe even better a flash cart, so always the new version can be used. :-))) Do all of the above use the newer OSS Cart banking scheme? (Defined here: https://www.atarimax.com/jindroush.atari.org/acarts.html) Newer scheme, uses 2 d-flipflops, bits A0 and A3. Physical order of banks: M, 0, 9, 1. PCB Bottom (103 KB JPG) PCB Top (96 KB JPG) PCB Bottom (91 KB JPG) (with parts) Schematics (8 KB GIF) drawn by me from the board pictures above. I doubt they are 100% correct, but are good enough to understand how does it work. A3 A0 A000-AFFF B000-BFFF RD5 Values 0 0 bank 0 bank m 1 0,2,4,6 0 1 bank 1 bank m 1 1,3,5,7 1 0 off off 0 8,A,C,E 1 1 bank 9 bank m 1 9,B,D,F Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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