Flojomojo Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Still nothing to update on whether this or the CV FB 2 are going forward (and again, the later it gets, the less likely any changes other than game list would be implemented). The primary focus is still on getting the upcoming family of Atari and Sega products optimized. I say do it big or don't bother. Releasing the same thing years later would only feed the "AtGames doesn't care" narrative. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClassicGMR Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 How about adding Tower of Doom to this unit as well BUT MAKING SURE WE CAN PLAY IT!!! Test all the games thoroughly to make sure they work before putting this on the shelves. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 I say do it big or don't bother. Releasing the same thing years later would only feed the "AtGames doesn't care" narrative. Unfortunately, that's usually not how these things work. Economic factors play a role. That's why the HD stuff is going to be priced quite a bit higher than the usual AtGames stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hwlngmad Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 I say do it big or don't bother. Releasing the same thing years later would only feed the "AtGames doesn't care" narrative. I agree with this statement to some degree. However, if AtGames adds 10 to 20 extra games, fixes all of the technical issues that plagued the FB1 (especially with the Tower of Doom) and perhaps upgrade the quality a little, it will be a worthwhile upgrade. However, if AtGames just fires out basically the same thing as it did before, then the Intellivision FB series could probably fall by the way side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+swlovinist Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 Unfortunately, that's usually not how these things work. Economic factors play a role. That's why the HD stuff is going to be priced quite a bit higher than the usual AtGames stuff. define quite a bit higher. I hope that they dont price themselves out of the novelty price range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 define quite a bit higher. I hope that they dont price themselves out of the novelty price range. Think NES Mini or even slightly more. The SD range will be the usual price or slightly less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+swlovinist Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 Think NES Mini or even slightly more. The SD range will be the usual price or slightly less. That is not bad at all. I will support it when it comes out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 I don't know what retailers would tolerate, but I often consider any tech under $100 within impulse buy territory. I'd rather it be good than cheap. $60 (or $70 or $80, since it will come with 2 WIRELESS controllers) seems right to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillLoguidice Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 I don't know what retailers would tolerate, but I often consider any tech under $100 within impulse buy territory. I'd rather it be good than cheap. $60 (or $70 or $80, since it will come with 2 WIRELESS controllers) seems right to me. Yeah. I think the list price will be $69.99 or something like that, but obviously that's not necessarily what the street price will be. The list price for the SD versions has always been extremely high, yet you could get it for $20 - $40 in-store depending upon the time of year/promotion. In any case, that's the thinking with the pricing, that it's similar to a NES Mini, but it either has tons more games and wireless controllers, or tons of games, wireless controllers, and a cartridge slot, so both can sustain a $10 premium. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 Yeah. I think the list price will be $69.99 or something like that, but obviously that's not necessarily what the street price will be. The list price for the SD versions has always been extremely high, yet you could get it for $20 - $40 in-store depending upon the time of year/promotion. The lazy blog entries write themselves! NES Classic Mini's list price is $59.99, but the street price is $250! Sega Genesis Mini's list price is $69.99, but the street price is less, AND you might actually find one in real life. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+wongojack Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 Any hope the controllers get fixed Bill? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillLoguidice Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 Any hope the controllers get fixed Bill? If you mean the IR controllers, they're no more. They're 2.4ghz now, similar to Bluetooth. The SD products will have wired controllers. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_me Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Still nothing to update on whether this or the CV FB 2 are going forward (and again, the later it gets, the less likely any changes other than game list would be implemented). The primary focus is still on getting the upcoming family of Atari and Sega products optimized. I know the Intellivision bios and software in the flashbacks was licensed from Intellivision Productions but what about the Colecovision bios. I didn't think the current Coleco brand company has any software properties. With that first Colecovision Flashback where did they get the bios/software rights from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 I know the Intellivision bios and software in the flashbacks was licensed from Intellivision Productions but what about the Colecovision bios. I didn't think the current Coleco brand company has any software properties. With that first Colecovision Flashback where did they get the bios/software rights from? It was all from Coleco Holdings. Whatever they have in terms of rights, it was deemed legally sufficient to proceed with the two Coleco products from AtGames, and potential future products. I don't know specifics beyond that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 the two Coleco products from AtGames There are two? 1. ColecoVision Flashback Console 2. This download from Direct2Drive, which is part of AtGames? P.S. Atgames really should buy Atgames.com ... remembering Atgames.net is hard, and I'm as close to being a fan as you're likely to get P.P.S. Now there's a Steam code for activation. I want that version! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 There are two? 1. ColecoVision Flashback Console 2. This download from Direct2Drive, which is part of AtGames? P.S. Atgames really should buy Atgames.com ... remembering Atgames.net is hard, and I'm as close to being a fan as you're likely to get P.P.S. Now there's a Steam code for activation. I want that version! All correct. There was talk of significantly revamping both the ColecoVision and Intellivision Flashback products on D2D, but nothing has come of it yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 All correct. There was talk of significantly revamping both the ColecoVision and Intellivision Flashback products on D2D, but nothing has come of it yet. It would be cool if they could convert existing purchases to Steam keys, and update the software, too. Right now, it's rather .... how do you say ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyChris Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Would be nice to have some homebrew games on it. Hotel Bunny Missile Domination Space Patrol Space Raid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Since I posted poo in his thread -- let me reiterate that Direct2Drive gave me a Steam key for the Colecovision flashback package I bought from them last year. Very easy, and they offered to give me the steam key for Intellivision if that pops up in the Steam store. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+grips03 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 It was all from Coleco Holdings. Whatever they have in terms of rights, it was deemed legally sufficient to proceed with the two Coleco products from AtGames, and potential future products. I don't know specifics beyond that. So they don't own the bios, but yet they some how licensed it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 So they don't own the bios, but yet they some how licensed it? I was not involved in the licensing, but clearly whatever they have was deemed sufficient. The deal wouldn't have gone through on the AtGames side otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Bouchard Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 I hope that an Intellivision FB 2 with more games and fixed controllers does come out. I'd probably buy more than 1 and or at least extra controllers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrBlackCat Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 (edited) I would buy an improved feature Intellivision and ColecoVision to go with the "need some improvements" models I have now. I would like to see this happen. MrBlackCat Edited June 12, 2017 by MrBlackCat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hwlngmad Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 All correct. There was talk of significantly revamping both the ColecoVision and Intellivision Flashback products on D2D, but nothing has come of it yet With the passing of the great Keith Robinson, will that significantly hinder efforts to get a new Intellivision FB2 console? I liked the first one very much, and would definitely like to see a revamped model. Hopefully AtGames decides to make another model as retro gaming is going strong, especially with Hyperkin coming out with their Atari 2600 system coming out later this Fall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 With the passing of the great Keith Robinson, will that significantly hinder efforts to get a new Intellivision FB2 console? I liked the first one very much, and would definitely like to see a revamped model. Hopefully AtGames decides to make another model as retro gaming is going strong, especially with Hyperkin coming out with their Atari 2600 system coming out later this Fall. I have no new info at this time. As far as I know, this was not proceeding particularly quickly prior to his unfortunate passing anyway. I'm sure as long as Intellivision Productions continues, there should be no issue with moving forward if it was indeed still going to happen. As I stated in the past, the main focus at this time is still just the 2017 line-up of Atari and Sega products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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