R.Cade Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Hi Guys well it ended at £5100 and went to a buyer in Poland who paid immediately.. not sure if I will take a cheap flight over to hand deliver or ship it Fed-Ex tracked & insured etc... but at least the guy was genuine and paid straight away For a high-value item like this, you should definitely consider an in-person swap of money for item. Shipment can be lost or tracking no good, and Paypal can be reversed and you have little recourse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianoid Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 (edited) For a high-value item like this, you should definitely consider an in-person swap of money for item. Shipment can be lost or tracking no good, and Paypal can be reversed and you have little recourse. @Nic Hills Agreed. Buy a Go-Pro to wear for when you deliver it by hand. I really wouldn't put ANYTHING past buyers, even after a hand to hand swap. eBay and credit card companies favor buyers. And buyers are occasionally unscrupulous. Being a seasoned seller, you are probably familiar. Poland is probably not the most reliable or trustworthy postal system. Edited May 27, 2017 by ianoid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swordquest plus Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Now that is amazing! I remember reading about this game on the Atariprotos blog, many years ago. Now if only we knew the name of the other prototype game made by Activision (the rubrics cube like one). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 So whatever happened with this? I assume the buyer got their prototype, but do we know who the buyer was? Any chance they'll share the rom or at least dump it so it's not lost? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supergun Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 Doubtful. This ones lost to the sands of time. I mean common, a collector in Poland? Not exactly a mainstream country in Europe. Not to mention he massively overpaid. It's priced out of range of any possible community controlled release. But I ain't losing any sleep over this one. 1) we already have it. 2) another one will turn up soon now. (And NTSC version) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Supergun Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 Nice. Thanks. Now my label-less loose cart will look much nicer. I already have labels for Kabobber & Thwocker. But not this one or the other as if yet un-named game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 Nice. Thanks. Now my label-less loose cart will look much nicer. I already have labels for Kabobber & Thwocker. But not this one or the other as if yet un-named game. No problem. Glad you can make use of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panamajoe Posted June 27, 2017 Author Share Posted June 27, 2017 Doubtful. This ones lost to the sands of time. I mean common, a collector in Poland? Not exactly a mainstream country in Europe. Not to mention he massively overpaid. It's priced out of range of any possible community controlled release. But I ain't losing any sleep over this one. 1) we already have it. 2) another one will turn up soon now. (And NTSC version) What exactly should a "mainstream country" be? Poland has a strong Atari scene and i for example have sold my Jaguar cart of Orions demos for quite a decent amount to - wait for it - Poland.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
high voltage Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 (edited) And not "overpaid", actually. Poles are rich, I sold my cib 3DO Blaster for oodles of money to a guy in Poland Edited June 27, 2017 by high voltage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supergun Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Other then the excellent HAS (home arcade Supergun) designed & sold by Michael, I can't think of anyone I know personally who is a hardcore gamer / collector who resides in Poland. Don't misinterpret my words, I have nothing against the country or its people. I wasn't ragging on it in that capacity. Rather just pointing out that it is not a country you would think of when it comes to large video game communities. And yes, he overpaid my friend. In the hierarchy of Protos, this one resided in a much lower neighborhood then its price reflected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Other then the excellent HAS (home arcade Supergun) designed & sold by Michael, I can't think of anyone I know personally who is a hardcore gamer / collector who resides in Poland. You're kidding right? Poland has a HUGE Atari 8-bit scene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg2600 Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 So did we lose anything by this? If the PAL cart never gets dumped/released? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 So did we lose anything by this? If the PAL cart never gets dumped/released? Yes, it was a later (and most likely final) version. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supergun Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 ? Guys...it's like a freakin' moratorium in here... In Activisions (and Atari's) final days of developing software for the 2600, with a game like say, Ghostbusters 2, the systems viability (potential sales) in the US was below that of the international market, whereby making it more probable that PAL development of games was further along and more the focus then NTSC. This game is from 1983. It CRYSTAL CLEARLY predates the glory days of Activisions software development; especially its end of days era. So to assume that this PAL cart was the only "finished" version of the game is NONSENSICAL. An exact or more likely even MORE complete NTSC version exists out there. J. H. C. I've never seen such a pathetic display of a pity party in my life around this place, and over what?! A game we already have! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 ? Guys...it's like a freakin' moratorium in here... In Activisions (and Atari's) final days of developing software for the 2600, with a game like say, Ghostbusters 2, the systems viability (potential sales) in the US was below that of the international market, whereby making it more probable that PAL development of games was further along and more the focus then NTSC. This game is from 1983. It CRYSTAL CLEARLY predates the glory days of Activisions software development; especially its end of days era. So to assume that this PAL cart was the only "finished" version of the game is NONSENSICAL. An exact or more likely even MORE complete NTSC version exists out there. J. H. C. I've never seen such a pathetic display of a pity party in my life around this place, and over what?! A game we already have! Dude, lay off the hard drugs. And the caps lock key. Activision was a US based development house. They did all their game development in the US. They wouldn't bother with a PAL conversion until after the NTSC version was finished. It's simple logic. That PAL version is 99% most likely the final version of the game (there could always be an exception). The real question is why didn't they release it? It was finished and the date wasn't too late. Maybe it didn't playtest well or something? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Exception being an unfinished port from NTSC to PAL. But it means there is a final NTSC version for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Exception being an unfinished port from NTSC to PAL. But it means there is a final NTSC version for sure. I guess there could be an unfinished port, but didn't they just adjust the colors and add a few scanlines? Thats something you generally knock out in a few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 I guess there could be an unfinished port, but didn't they just adjust the colors and add a few scanlines? Thats something you generally knock out in a few days. Yep, unless there was some kind of marketing genius at work (I have come across them before), who said "Wouldn't it be cool to add XYZ to the game, now that we have time to make the port?". "Hey, we can just change the theme to Asterix, they don't know Taz!" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimefighter Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 I think the focus should turn to finding out who programmed it - asking the Activision programmers from back in the day that are still reachable is a great place to start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 ...didn't they just adjust the colors and add a few scanlines? Thats something you generally knock out in a few days. Minutes! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 I think the focus should turn to finding out who programmed it - asking the Activision programmers from back in the day that are still reachable is a great place to start. Excactly. Now we know the title, perhaps one of the programmers can tell us who programmed it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Excactly. Now we know the title, perhaps one of the programmers can tell us who programmed it. I wonder if it was one of the outside contractors doing games for Activision in the later years like Rex Bradford or Charlie Heath? I doubt it's one of the core people like David Crane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klove Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 It's my opinion that I believe the title came from an outside source. One that was trying to impress the Activision team in effort to bring he / she on-board. I spoke with and showed several of the original 2600 team members pics of the game and non of them could recall seeing the title at all. This includes Dave C. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 You have an opinion on what you believe? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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