enoofu Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 You give it that long? Chris is probably telling everyone that Sunday will be different and have amazing turnout, and by Monday Coleco Website will tell the story of a evil Cyberman that ruin a expo and the evils of cyber-bullying that hurt multi millionaires button line 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jblenkle Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 (edited) I have no doubt that Coleco will portray this Expo as a huge success even if only a few people turned out. It reaches a point where they start believing their own lies. Edited August 6, 2017 by jblenkle 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg2600 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Even with great community outreach, would the attendance have been that much better? Seriously? No. Coleco is a DEAD brand name. When you say to people, do you want to come to a Coleco expo, they go "WTH are you talking about?" This was an idea that never made sense. I personally would have liked to meet Tim Lapetino in person and congratulate him on the Art of Atari book, but I have a softball game tomorrow, and this expo is too far, like 45 minutes from me, to go beforehand. It's sad, I would LOVE if there was a true CGE/Philly Classic type of show, even if small, in the area. I always enjoy meeting and listening to panels from the programmers of the past. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPR Posted August 6, 2017 Author Share Posted August 6, 2017 Even with great community outreach, would the attendance have been that much better? Seriously? No. Coleco is a DEAD brand name. When you say to people, do you want to come to a Coleco expo, they go "WTH are you talking about?" This was an idea that never made sense. The Expo could have made sense and been great if they had actually put on a good event. IMO, a handful of arcade machines, some wal-mart tables with consoles, mostly unknown guest speakers, random cosplayers, and featured vendors with garden gnomes and crochet knick-knacks doesn't make for a "great" retro gaming expo. Especially when not a single well-known retrogamer, homebrew publisher, or YouTuber was present. It was not the "idea" that wasn't solid, it was the team behind it putting it all together. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuggerVideoGames Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 The Expo could have made sense and been great if they had actually put on a good event. IMO, a handful of arcade machines, some wal-mart tables with consoles, mostly unknown guest speakers, random cosplayers, and featured vendors with garden gnomes and crochet knick-knacks doesn't make for a "great" retro gaming expo. Especially when not a single well-known retrogamer, homebrew publisher, or YouTuber was present. It was not the "idea" that wasn't solid, it was the team behind it putting it all together. Bingo! An expo needs better content for it to be appealing to the masses. To have good content, you need a team of people who know what appeals to people (of which Cardillo and friends are clueless about). Bad PR + arrogance + bad marketing + irrelevant content + bad timing = shit fest. A Coleco expo would have made more sense if it were.... MORE COLECO. This made the final episode of How I Met Your Mother look like Citizen Kane. The timing of the expo would have been better once Mello and others are nearing the release of their systems (that would be huge news and a huge appeal to Coleco gamers and retro gamers of other systems, as well); unfortunately, I doubt they would have been part of the expo at any time simply because Cardillo and his fellow idiots pretty much alienated the entire homebrew community and its developers. Cardillo and friends basically ruined and eliminated any and all positive possibilities long before this colossal failure even began. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuggerVideoGames Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 243 guests are currently browsing this forum. Hey! We're a more successful expo than the actual expo was! 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nathan Strum Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 (edited) I live 15min away... Maybe I should go just for lolz? Nah. Sophie would probably appreciate company. Maybe pick up a scone for her at Starbuck's or something. Edited August 6, 2017 by Nathan Strum 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nathan Strum Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Ohhh... "New York's Hit"... Totally missed the apostrophe when I first read that. "Can we try to win tickets to a GOOD show?" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhoenixMoonPatrol Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Feel bad for the vendors and the folks who traveled and planned to have fun there. Seriously, all you needed was tumbleweeds at that event. Maybe if this event were held at Chiller Theater in New Jersey in May or October things would have been better. Though I have no idea what they charge vendors at those events. Since that thing is a toy/comics/celebrity meet and greet event there would have been allot of people to relive Coleco memories. Who knows if they have another one of these next year now though. Cardillo needs to fix this mess he's created. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Karma is a b!tch... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuggerVideoGames Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Karma is a b!tch... Is Karma coming for you now that you said a mean thing about her? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swami Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 For reference, this is what a real retro convention looks like: Love the console TVs. Would try to get one of these if I had the room. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Coleco should show up there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 heehee, PRGE. -Thom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Tarzilla Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 heehee, PRGE. -Thom Coleco should show up there. PRGE 2015 and 2016 had more Coleco/ColecoVision presence than whatever that event with Coleco in the name appears to have. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoofu Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Looking at other major events at this Expo center they are usually around 5-15 dollars per ticket and usually that means also some gifts like food or toys; Apparently some of the events in the past have packed the center Coleco was asking 20-34 US dollar per ticket with no real added value to anyone except for Coleco Greed For example Greenberg’s Great Train & Toy Show Edison, NJ Adult Admission is $10 Saturday or $9 Sunday (on-site ticket sales cash only) All Saturday tickets good for both days Kids 11 and under are admitted free and do NOT need a ticket. offers Free Workshops and Demonstrations, On-Site Train Repairs, Free Test Track – Test Run Your Trains at the Show, 130+ Exhibitors from Across the Country, 500+ Tables of Trains for Sale 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIAD Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 I live 15min away... Maybe I should go just for lolz? Nah.If admission is free, which it now should be, then you should go... there are some hotties pictured. Also, aren't they supposed to raffle off a full size arcade game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Innit Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 I wonder how many Sydney Hunter games they've managed to shift. Didn't they even have a console set up so attendees could try it out? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schizophretard Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Day two: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Day two? I betting that if they do any online streaming today, the viewership numbers will improve. It's true, I doubt anyone will be watching for content though. I think people will be viewing mostly to gauge attendance levels. But hey, a click is a click to some folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Iacovelli Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 thats sad to look at, heck even a small show like my VGS got over 200 people this year, even though at start we had 50 but we kept growing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+5-11under Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 thats sad to look at, heck even a small show like my VGS got over 200 people this year, even though at start we had 50 but we kept growing. I hope you rented a small community center or gym or bar for the first one, and not a huge convention center. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Iacovelli Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 I hope you rented a small community center or gym or bar for the first one, and not a huge convention center. it was small meeting room in a hotel we had from 2003 to 2014, the place and hotel had a management split and 2015 we moved to another venue we had good amount people but wasn't a good location, 2016 we moved to sports expo and we had good luck there. our only really bad year 2006 weather was too hot and not a lot people came, almost decided to end it but people want it to continue so in 2008 we came back. (the first years we did take a small loss around 100 or so '06 took major hit about 300, when came back in 08(took a break in 07) we picked up steam starting gaining ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Iacovelli Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 it was small meeting room in a hotel we had from 2003 to 2014, the place and hotel had a management split and 2015 we moved to another venue we had good amount people but wasn't a good location, 2016 we moved to sports expo and we had good luck there. our only really bad year 2006 weather was too hot and not a lot people came, almost decided to end it but people want it to continue so in 2008 we came back. (the first years we did take a small loss around 100 or so '06 took major hit about 300, when came back in 08(took a break in 07) we picked up steam starting gaining ) btw our first shows is where the glendale coco fest is at, was also the the c64 and midwest vintage computer fest was at. I don't how coco fest gets to hold the event,since the person at the hotel told us the building manager don't to use it for public events after 2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolenta Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 (edited) I personally would have liked to meet Tim Lapetino in person and congratulate him on the Art of Atari book Tim is cool. We writers all went out to dinner last night and had a great time together. We figure we'll have a great time today whether anyone shows up or not Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited August 6, 2017 by rolenta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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