Andromeda Stardust Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Sadly the five year period for filing objections is long over. There is still enough strong evidence here, I believe, to show that Chris Cardillo acted in bad faith. Now where is the gofundme lawyer page? Any real lawyers at AtariAge? Has anyone consulted one about this? Do we even have a case at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StopDrop&Retro Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Lon Seidman covered this topic: https://youtu.be/bCuwSulqRp8?t=15m45s I'm a big fan of the guy. He covered a lot of the RVGS story too, he even interviewed Mike Kennedy. He kinda didn't get the nuances of the trademark issue though and assumes RWB owns ColecoVision. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoofu Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 (edited) Sadly the five year period for filing objections is long over. There is still enough strong evidence here, I believe, to show that Chris Cardillo acted in bad faith. Now where is the gofundme lawyer page? Any real lawyers at AtariAge? Has anyone consulted one about this? Do we even have a case at all? Fraudulent statements can reset a clock, believe opcode has talked to a real lawyer Edited June 13, 2017 by enoofu 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schizophretard Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 https://www.uspto.gov/about-trademarks By revoking a trademark it would go into the public domain so anyone could use it Where does it say that? Other things seem to state otherwise. For an example: What if the trademark registration expired or was cancelled?Even if a trademark registration expires or is cancelled, the trademark owner may continue to have "common law" rights in the mark. Federal registration typically does not create rights in a mark but rather confers benefits and protections in addition to rights established by common law. Common law rights arise from actual use of a mark for particular goods or services and may allow the common law user to successfully challenge another party's use in court. That sounds like you could lose the extra benefits and protections from the registration but still have the rights established by common law. While reading through the links in the site it seems to be the difference between the use of TM(which to my understanding seems to be somewhat automatic like a copyright at the moment you use a mark commercially or with a prior intent to use it commercially with a TM after it but unlike a copyright it can be lost if you don't challenge someone infringing on it) and ® which can only be used with a mark that is registered. So, he could lose the registration but still try to defend the trademark based on common law which he would likely still lose from so many homebrewers using it prior to him with none of them making it a trademark that they protected by challenging others that used it after them. However, it is seems unclear rather it could become public domain in the sense that multiple parties could call themselves Coleco or give the impression that they are Coleco by still using it as a trademark. For an example, maybe instead of becoming public domain it just becomes completely dead as being allowed to be used as a trademark because if multiple parties are using it as such it could cause market confusion by people thinking they are buying from Coleco. But it might not be an intellectual property thing at that point but more like the kind of thing where the customers could have a class action lawsuit for fraud against these multiple parties for making them think they were buying Coleco products. However, that may be a very unlikely thing to happen because I doubt a big group of people are going to be confused by a bunch of homebrewers. Maybe they could if AtGames released another Colecovision Flashback as a mass market product and still included a Coleco trademark or something like that. But they would be unlikely to include the Coleco trademark by only having the AtGames and Flashback marks with Colecovision and/or Coleco used generically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schizophretard Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Is that last kid Casey Ellison from the Punky Brewster series? Yes, the first kid is Candace Cameron Bure(D.J. Tanner from Full House) who also played in an episode of Punky Brewster. I can't place the second kid but recognize her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikrananka Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Then after Albert disagreed with Cardillo's whining about being "bullied", Cardillo attempted to stir people away from the AtariAge forums by creating a new forum for Atari and calling his new forums the defenitive Atari forums (LMAO!). Need to correct you here. Cardillo didn't create a new forum, he referred people to another existing Atari forum. The forum in question has been around for years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcoleco Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Here's what I sent them in 2008. Again, the original (and only) Coleco portable I made was in 2005, by commission for a customer who was not associated with RWB. And yes as some have mentioned it was a heavily modded original Colecovision, not a new machine. And by looking at the dates on these provided logo files, RWB contacted me over 2 year after I built the one-off. It really looks like Brock Bold font except for the spacing and the missing curve at the bottom of the E. I remember modifying this font more than a decade ago based on the ColecoVision logo it worked just fine. I've tried to share the font file online, but somehow it's nowhere to be found. I remember using it in a pdf file, so maybe the font is embedded in a pdf file near you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColecoJoe Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 It really looks like Brock Bold font except for the spacing and the missing curve at the bottom of the E. I remember modifying this font more than a decade ago based on the ColecoVision logo it worked just fine. I've tried to share the font file online, but somehow it's nowhere to be found. I remember using it in a pdf file, so maybe the font is embedded in a pdf file near you. This one? http://dejarik.net/brock.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 The attached image is a transparent version of one shown above. If you want to create your own project, you can print this off on << clear waterslide paper >> for a more professional look. Be careful who you let use a photo of your finished project... you never know what they are going to use it for! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 By the way, awesome Pro Wrestling reference you made in one of your other posts! I have no idea to what you might be referring. It was probably accidental. Simpsons, Star Wars, and musical theater references are more my speed. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuggerVideoGames Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 I have no idea to what you might be referring. It was probably accidental. Simpsons, Star Wars, and musical theater references are more my speed. When you said to TPR, "A winner is you!" Pro Wrestling was an NES game that had this screen after every win (picturing whichever wrestler you used). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 When you said to TPR, "A winner is you!" Pro Wrestling was an NES game that had this screen after every win (picturing whichever wrestler you used). A Winner is you.jpg Ah yes, the old game. That's totally in character for me. I thought you meant the "sport" of Pro Wrestling. I was thinking of this (Space Giraffe), which was referring back to the old NES game. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaperman Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 (edited) Can't control urges to misuse logo... Edited June 13, 2017 by Reaperman 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 When you said to TPR, "A winner is you!" Pro Wrestling was an NES game that had this screen after every win (picturing whichever wrestler you used). A Winner is you.jpg That phrase has been passed around so many times, it could refer to anything, like for instance this NES music cart that plays real wav sound of retro inspired live music played exclusively through the NES DSP channel. It's the NES equivalent of Pitfall II bus stuffing the TIA register. http://www.retrousb.com/product_info.php?cPath=36&products_id=143 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+frankodragon Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPR Posted June 13, 2017 Author Share Posted June 13, 2017 Ok guys.... The humor stuff is funny as hell, yes. But let's try to keep this thread on topic. Given the circumstances and who this thread is about, I'm SURE it won't be long until there are new developments we can all discuss. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the80sgamer Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Start a new thread for the humor. I'm sure it'll get seen by all! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nathan Strum Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 It really looks like Brock Bold font except for the spacing and the missing curve at the bottom of the E. I remember modifying this font more than a decade ago based on the ColecoVision logo it worked just fine. I've tried to share the font file online, but somehow it's nowhere to be found. I remember using it in a pdf file, so maybe the font is embedded in a pdf file near you. It's closer to a modified Eurostile Bold Extended 2. That's what the Coleco logo uses. I had to make my own version recently. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroillucid Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 It's closer to a modified Eurostile Bold Extended 2. That's what the Coleco logo uses. I had to make my own version recently. Coleco-logos.png Good job! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Start a new thread for the humor. I'm sure it'll get seen by all! Good idea. Let's keep this one more or less on the topic of "Coleco strong arming homebrew publishers and fan sites" Here's a toilet thread we can use until it's shut down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Good idea. Let's keep this one more or less on the topic of "Coleco strong arming homebrew publishers and fan sites" Here's a toilet thread we can use until it's shut down. It's shut down. No need for a thread like that on AtariAge. Thank you, ..Al 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 That was fast! If Albert ever challenges you to a game of Wild Gunman, you'll lose! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPR Posted June 13, 2017 Author Share Posted June 13, 2017 You can actually make fake Tweets (just for fun) like I did here: Guys, please try to respect what I posted earlier: Ok guys.... The humor stuff is funny as hell, yes. But let's try to keep this thread on topic. Given the circumstances and who this thread is about, I'm SURE it won't be long until there are new developments we can all discuss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Maybe you should remind people that we have the ability to remove individual users from any given thread? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPR Posted June 13, 2017 Author Share Posted June 13, 2017 Maybe you should remind people that we have the ability to remove individual users from any given thread? Consider this the reminder. Also we DO NOT NEED "Coleco Humor" threads either on this forum. We have already had to remove two of them. Thanks for your understanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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