retroillucid Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 Here's what you would need if you want to plug your Colecovision console on a HDMI monitor & also have similar results to the CollectorVision Phoenix Console (Note, it still doesn't make your console 100% reliable!) What you would need: F18A = $86 + shipping + installationColUSB = $40 + shippingSuperGame Module = $100 + shippingAtarimax SD Cartridge = $130+ shipping Total cost: $356 Phoenix Console cost: $199 + shipping The choice is obvious! Pre order yours now!https://collectorvision.com/shop/colecovision/collectorvision-phoenix/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loafer Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) ... and that doesn't include the need for the colecovision (and costs if you need to buy one if yours dies or you dont have it anymore) and your price doesn't include the value of the new pack-in game either, nor those who come pre-loaded!! There's no doubt there is great value here. My original point of contention was the need to include the SGM support was preventing the price from being as low as possible (important for some who just want to play their old carts). But there are two very good reasons why the SGM is such an important add-on: - so many new Colecovision release use the SGM, thus allowing us to expand our collection - there has recently been many SGM games made freely available by other devs (thanks for the Chrismas present team Pixelboy!) For myself and a few others I spoke with, it's not about value, just affordability. I think at this stage, those who are interested, will just have to find the funds two Questions: 1 - I've seen some of the adverts for the phoenix state "10+ games" while others state "includes 10 games" (I might have even read somewhere 20 titles included). Can you clarify? Are there other unannounced titles to be included or was this just a revision in licensing means we get 10? I don't really care, just appreciate the confirmation, 10 or 10+, doesn't factor in my decision to support you guys, just good to get clarity. 2 - In the intellivision club thread, it stated the games listed were a combination of intelivision and Colecovision collectorvision releases. I don't recall reading this in the coleco club (though I may have missed this). Is this the same for the colecovision club membership? ie: are the included access to the roms a combination of colecovision and intellivision roms? or does the intellivision club only include part of the collectorvision colecovision roms? thanks, p.s. Phoenix is now pre-ordered! Edited January 8, 2019 by Loafer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroillucid Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 ... and that doesn't include the need for the colecovision (and costs if you need to buy one if yours dies or you dont have it anymore) and your price doesn't include the value of the new pack-in game either, nor those who come pre-loaded!! There's no doubt there is great value here. My original point of contention was the need to include the SGM support was preventing the price from being as low as possible (important for some who just want to play their old carts). But there are two very good reasons why the SGM is such an important add-on: - so many new Colecovision release use the SGM, thus allowing us to expand our collection - there has recently been many SGM games made freely available by other devs (thanks for the Chrismas present team Pixelboy!) For myself and a few others I spoke with, it's not about value, just affordability. I think at this stage, those who are interested, will just have to find the funds two Questions: 1 - I've seen some of the adverts for the phoenix state "10+ games" while others state "includes 10 games" (I might have even read somewhere 20 titles included). Can you clarify? Are there other unannounced titles to be included or was this just a revision in licensing means we get 10? I don't really care, just appreciate the confirmation, 10 or 10+, doesn't factor in my decision to support you guys, just good to get clarity. 2 - In the intellivision club thread, it stated the games listed were a combination of intelivision and Colecovision collectorvision releases. I don't recall reading this in the coleco club (though I may have missed this). Is this the same for the colecovision club membership? ie: are the included access to the roms a combination of colecovision and intellivision roms? or does the intellivision club only include part of the collectorvision colecovision roms? thanks, p.s. Phoenix is now pre-ordered! Here's the (confirmed) built-in games included (see attached pic) The Intellivision Club doesn't have the same game as the CV Club, INtv game for Intellivision club, CV game for the ColecoVision Club Also, the goodies won't be exactly the same as well 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 We definitely want to make a new Roller & Spinner Controller Great. I'd rather not re-invest in the old peripherals if I can help it. Again, I love the roller controller, but it's a mess of wires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroillucid Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) Great. I'd rather not re-invest in the old peripherals if I can help it. Again, I love the roller controller, but it's a mess of wires. Agreed Most original Coleco hardware are prone to failure Edited January 8, 2019 by retroillucid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelboy Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Here's the (confirmed) built-in games included (see attached pic) That image reminds me of those Coleco puffy stickers from 30+ years ago... I'm also noting the "AND MORE TO COME!" at the bottom... Is there more to come? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroillucid Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 That image reminds me of those Coleco puffy stickers from 30+ years ago... I'm also noting the "AND MORE TO COME!" at the bottom... Is there more to come? Yep, you're right, I used the puffy stickers as kind of a template for the image I did Yes, we might add more built-in games, it is just not 100% official yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zonie Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Oohh. Expansion port. Is it the same as the original signal-wise or something else? Details? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmack36 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Oohh. Expansion port. Is it the same as the original signal-wise or something else? Details? No it is not the same pinout as the original. The expansion port provides +5V, +3.3V, GND and 21 FPGA IO pin access. This allows us to use the expansion port for many different options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLic0ne t0aD Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Don't forget the cost of adding an OSSC or Framemeister to the total.. You'll be hard pressed to find a VGA port on a modern flat panel HDTV. My CV looks gorgeous, running through an OSSC v1.6 but they're not cheap, though much less expensive than a Framemeister. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragon57 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Great. I'd rather not re-invest in the old peripherals if I can help it. Again, I love the roller controller, but it's a mess of wires. I love my roller controller, but I'll just use it on my retro shelf. It is too much of a pain to connect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
towmater Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 (edited) I'm preserving this as a snapshot of 8-bit video game legacy. Specifically the "Reminiscence" period as it will become known to historians. CollectorVision development 2019: (shown: Tursi and Matthew180) Edited January 9, 2019 by towmater 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmy2tone Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 No it is not the same pinout as the original. The expansion port provides +5V, +3.3V, GND and 21 FPGA IO pin access. This allows us to use the expansion port for many different options. I think this question was answered, but the original colecovision Expansion module 1 will work with the Phoenix, correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIAD Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 I think this question was answered, but the original colecovision Expansion module 1 will work with the Phoenix, correct?No, the EM #1 Atari Adapter not work with the Phoenix. Now the good news, an Atari 2600 core comes built-in which means you can play 2600 rom images loaded via the SD Drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroillucid Posted January 10, 2019 Author Share Posted January 10, 2019 No, the EM #1 Atari Adapter not work with the Phoenix. Now the good news, an Atari 2600 core comes built-in which means you can play 2600 rom images loaded via the SD Drive. That's right We're also going to make a Atari2600 Cartridge Adapter for the Phoenix if there's enough interests 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelboy Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 That's right We're also going to make a Atari2600 Cartridge Adapter for the Phoenix if there's enough interests I think the form factor of the adaptor could be a factor. If it sticks out too much from the Phoenix's cartridge port and the adaptor + 2600 cart looks like an ugly tower, some potential buyers may be turned off by it. Just my two cents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDTV1080P Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) I guess its cheaper to use the Atari 2600 cartridge adapter instead of making a expansion module #1 Atari 2600 product that would plug into the units expansion module interface. Also it would be nice to have cartridge adapters for other systems besides Atari 2600. Edited January 10, 2019 by HDTV1080P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariLeaf Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 I think the form factor of the adaptor could be a factor. If it sticks out too much from the Phoenix's cartridge port and the adaptor + 2600 cart looks like an ugly tower, some potential buyers may be turned off by it. Just my two cents. Not me, I'd buy one no matter what it looked like it if meant I could play the latest 2600 homebrews on the Phoenix. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Phruby Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Now if it would only run 7800 with built in XM. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+evg2000 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 I think the form factor of the adaptor could be a factor. If it sticks out too much from the Phoenix's cartridge port and the adaptor + 2600 cart looks like an ugly tower, some potential buyers may be turned off by it. Just my two cents. maybe have a 90 degree bend? Adapter is L shaped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroillucid Posted January 11, 2019 Author Share Posted January 11, 2019 maybe have a 90 degree bend? Adapter is L shaped. Yeah, I think there's a way to make it looks great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroillucid Posted January 11, 2019 Author Share Posted January 11, 2019 Yeah, I think there's a way to make it looks great It couldn't be ugly as this, no? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H.E.R.O. Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 It couldn't be ugly as this, no? Reminds me of when I had to stick a copy of Zany Golf for Sega Genesis into a Game Genie for it to work on my Sega Nomad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBerel Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 But that thing let you hook up a high tech cassette player to your Atari. Looks go out the window when you're on the bleeding edge like that. Any chance that DB 25 can provide pin outs for hard wired controls, or other inputs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funcool Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Hi Will this system require separate sd cards for Atari 2600 and Colecovision or can one mix both system roms in one SD card? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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