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NTSC core for VBXE?

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17 minutes ago, DrVenkman said:

All of the discussion this past summer was for a core with an NTSC palette; it was never really about any memory expansion. 

I understand that, but my assumption is that since the current VBXE has the cores with and without the memory expansion, that the palette isn't affected by the memory part of the core, and that part won't change, and both can be generated like current versions of the cores.  However, if it can't be done, I'm not going to let that hold up the NTSC core update.

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13 minutes ago, wildstar87 said:

However, if it can't be done, I'm not going to let that hold up the NTSC core update.

The person who needs to do it is @candle and I’m guessing he’s just been too busy or otherwise occupied to do it. 

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2 hours ago, bfollowell said:

So, as long as you still have the original video, you can still use it for artifacting with the VBXE installed, but that's assuming you're using an original CRT display, correct? I was thinking that artifacting didn't work, even when using composite, if your display was, say, a newer Samsung LCD TV. Am I wrong in that assumption?

 

I even had it working with my projector.

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Here you go:

 

 

I'd show it on real hardware but I need to clear the desk. Will be available when the firmware is released, hopefully in a few days.

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55 minutes ago, flashjazzcat said:

Here you go:

 

 

I'd show it on real hardware but I need to clear the desk. Will be available when the firmware is released, hopefully in a few days.

Nice!  Now do I update firmware when released and potentially lose my Rapidus plugin?  Or stay and not have NTSC colors.... decisions decisions...

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2 minutes ago, leech said:

Nice!  Now do I update firmware when released and potentially lose my Rapidus plugin?

I'll include the Rapidus core enable/disable for anyone for whom its absence creates problems. I'm just not going to advertise it on the website any more or develop Rapidus drivers, etc.

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1 minute ago, flashjazzcat said:

I'll include the Rapidus core enable/disable for anyone for whom its absence creates problems. I'm just not going to advertise it on the website any more or develop Rapidus drivers, etc.

Nice.  Don't blame you with the random issues.  Seems just some magic allows it to work in some cases.

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2 minutes ago, leech said:

Seems just some magic allows it to work in some cases.

Magic is the correct word.

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Thank you Jonathan! This looks like it will work beautifully.

 

When making this setting in the U1M menu like this, I'm assuming the option stays selected through power down, reboots, etc.? Since it doesn't look like you need to make a call or run any sort of driver beforehand, would this setting would stay selected even when running from a cartridge or a multi-cart?

 

I look forward to seeing this available in a future version of the U1M firmware.

 

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8 hours ago, bfollowell said:

When making this setting in the U1M menu like this, I'm assuming the option stays selected through power down, reboots, etc.? Since it doesn't look like you need to make a call or run any sort of driver beforehand, would this setting would stay selected even when running from a cartridge or a multi-cart?

Yes: it's persistent and completely system-wide. The effect is exactly the same as physically changing the palette in the VBXE firmware; it's applied at power-on and lasts until power-off. It also works with the GTIA emulaton core (as well as the FX core).

8 hours ago, bfollowell said:

I look forward to seeing this available in a future version of the U1M firmware.

Release is imminent. I have ended up with a queue of recently upgraded machines on the desk which all require the new firmware, and consequently owners waiting for their stuff back. I'm thankful for their patience, since I still don't have a Sophia 2 of my own, and thus cannot develop some of the plugins once the Sophia 2 machine is sent back (until my board turns up).

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Any idea when we might be seeing this core palette change, for those of us that aren't using this with U1MB?

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48 minutes ago, wildstar87 said:

Any idea when we might be seeing this core palette change, for those of us that aren't using this with U1MB?

I finally gave up and just converted my 1088XLD to PAL. But now with Jon's latest U1MB firmware I can get the best of both worlds - NTSC colors for games and stuff that "need" it for my lifelong experience, PAL compatibility with all the amazing PAL-only demos and music stuff.

 

But yeah, for the relatively small number of folks using VBXE and *not* also using U1MB on an NTSC machine, it would be nice. @candle is probably pretty busy though with the upcoming external U1MB that @lotharek has shown, plus a JED update to Incognito, plus who knows how many other things.

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1 hour ago, DrVenkman said:

I finally gave up and just converted my 1088XLD to PAL. But now with Jon's latest U1MB firmware I can get the best of both worlds - NTSC colors for games and stuff that "need" it for my lifelong experience, PAL compatibility with all the amazing PAL-only demos and music stuff.

 

But yeah, for the relatively small number of folks using VBXE and *not* also using U1MB on an NTSC machine, it would be nice. @candle is probably pretty busy though with the upcoming external U1MB that @lotharek has shown, plus a JED update to Incognito, plus who knows how many other things.

Whoa!  I am a bit on the buzzed side, but an external U1MB?  How does that work?  PBI?  Sounds awesome.

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