PlaysWithWolves Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 The Verge did a write-up on Wyatt's Gameboard-1. Inside is an interesting reminder box: Quote A note on crowdfunding: Crowdfunding is a chaotic field by nature: companies looking for funding tend to make big promises. According to a study run by Kickstarter in 2015, roughly 1 in 10 “successful” products that reach their funding goals fail to actually deliver rewards. Of the ones that do deliver, delays, missed deadlines, or overpromised ideas mean that there’s often disappointment in store for those products that do get done. The best defense is to use your best judgment. Ask yourself: does the product look legitimate? Is the company making outlandish claims? Is there a working prototype? Does the company mention existing plans to manufacture and ship finished products? Has it completed a Kickstarter before? And remember: you’re not necessarily buying a product when you back it on a crowdfunding site. Lessons learned? Or brief moment of lucidity? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inky Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, frankodragon said: Others already did months ago. 12 hours ago, godslabrat said: Exactly how is "Let's see you make a console!" a great comeback if the key criticism is that literally any moron can make an identical unit with $50 in parts? 12 hours ago, DurradonXylles said: Anyone can make a "VCS" that's comparable in retro game compatibility with little more than a Raspberry Pi 4 or similarly spec'd single board computers, micro SD card loaded with RetroPie or Lakka, and one of several options for Atari 2600 Pi cases that can be bought premade/pre-printed or be 3D printed yourself. Also, assuming Rob here is speaking to us directly on this thread as well as responding to criticism on Facebook: we literally have a number of industry veterans who have been observing the hilarious shitshow Atari's been putting on for us, as well as our snark at their expense, or are directly contributing to the peanut gallery chatter. We even have a few people who have worked on/are currently working on hardware, including Tommy Tallarico, leader of Intellivision Entertainment and leading the development of the Intellivision Amico, and Curt Vendel, who designed, among other things, the Atari Flashback 2 (the only Atari PNP console that's a true hardware clone of the 2600) under contract by another era of Atari that actually gave a damn about their heritage. Some of us trolls have actually made hardware that can run games a helluva lot better than Atari's smoke and mirrors, one way or another. But, no, no, Atari will certainly blow all of us away with their Tacobox running a modified version of Debian, or one of its forked distros, that's far less optimized for gaming or feature rich than Steam OS or even Ubuntu. That's even assuming the console will launch at all. Don't worry... We'll wait. If you make a console, they'll move the goalposts. "Ohh. Nice console, but it's not a success like the VCS will be!" That's how cultists work. I once got into an argument with a user here who said that the arcade game Tempest wasn't a success. His argument? There was no arcade sequel. I provided stat after stat on units shipped, money made, critical consensus, but nope, this one held onto his belief that "No sequel, it's not a success." Edited October 15, 2019 by Inky 8 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inky Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 13 hours ago, Shaggy the Atarian said: Every time I see that "Ataribawx" sticker, I imagine the new Atari VCS mascot: Chicken tacos, obviously OK, I just thought of this. 1 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DurradonXylles Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 23 minutes ago, Inky said: If you make a console, they'll move the goalposts. "Ohh. Nice console, but it's not a success like the VCS will be!" That's how cultists work. I once got into an argument with a user here who said that the arcade game Tempest wasn't a success. His argument? There was no arcade sequel. I provided stat after stat on units shipped, money made, critical consensus, but nope, this one held onto his belief that "No sequel, it's not a success." Figured as much, we are talking about a hardcore, die hard AtacoBox believer, after all. It's kinda funny he's attempting to support "Atari" when he doesn't want to acknowledge the original company's success, but anything to keep convincing himself that he didn't potentially throw hundreds of dollars of his hard earned money into a furnace, right? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digdugnate Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Inky said: OK, I just thought of this. I LOVE Space Ghost Coast 2 Coast. ? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercylon Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 5 hours ago, Woulfe said: Lets see... Rasberry Pi - Well it depends on what model you get - Zero can be as low as $5.00 Case for the Pi - $8.00 - well, unless you want it to look like an olde skool 2600, that might cost a little bit more SD mini / micro card - $20.00 - This might cost less depending on MB / GB size you want Mini Keyboard - $15.00 Small LED screen - if you don't want to plug it into a TV or whatever have you - $7.00 All slightly over $50.00 Still a hella lot cheaper then the VCS, even if you toss in things like an OS for the Pi & RetroPi to play olde skool games, you still aren't paying a whole lot Well, not as much as for the VCS itself that's for certain, and anyone who's ever put together a computer can do this, there's your 'console' VCS fanbois Put that in yer pipe & smoke it P.S. ( as long as we're using STYX videos ) For less than the Atacobox, you could get parts for a Mister setup with money to spare and actually learn something in the process. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inky Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 16 minutes ago, digdugnate said: I LOVE Space Ghost Coast 2 Coast. ? Actually, that's from the spinoff, The Brak Show 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom_of_Krankor Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 One of my favorite SGCTC episodes. https://binged.it/35zt20o 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inky Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Phantom_of_Krankor said: One of my favorite SGCTC episodes. https://binged.it/35zt20o Oooh! THey have one of my favorites, Kentucky Nightmare! " So now there's a liquor store involved!" Actually, that would explain a LOT about the Atacobox 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom_of_Krankor Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, Inky said: Oooh! THey have one of my favorites, Kentucky Nightmare! " So now there's a liquor store involved!" Actually, that would explain a LOT about the Atacobox Didn't see that one was there, but now I must watch it. Another classic. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inky Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Inky said: Oooh! THey have one of my favorites, Kentucky Nightmare! " So now there's a liquor store involved!" Actually, that would explain a LOT about the Atacobox https://binged.it/2J8fSy3 Space Ghost: In the heat of conversation, Zorak, I may have said certain things that I don't believe to be true... Zorak: So... You lied. Space Ghost: The alleged lie that you might have heard.. me saying.. allegedly moments ago.. That's a parasite that lives in my neck. Adult Swim predicting the Atacobox? Edited October 15, 2019 by Inky 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+GoldLeader Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racerx Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Did I miss something, or did the Atari men in black sterilize the "official" subreddit? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacman000 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 13 hours ago, frankodragon said: "Atari"- In a nutshell. Good song, but not entirely relevant. It's a cautionary tale, nothing that fame & fortune won't solve all your problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digdugnate Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 27 minutes ago, racerx said: Did I miss something, or did the Atari men in black sterilize the "official" subreddit? Click 'new' and you'll see the recent stuff. It's still there ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inky Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 1 hour ago, GoldLeader said: GENTLEMEN.. TACO ISLAND! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+frankodragon Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 There might be no village sandwich shop, but there sure is a taco shop! 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eltigro Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 I used to have a Brak sticker on my truck... it used to get comments all the time. One time, there was even a note on my windshield saying they liked it. This was back in the late 90's if I remember correctly. And I don't think the note mentioned tacos or boxes. So perhaps this isn't exactly on topic. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Tallarico Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 On 10/14/2019 at 5:49 PM, DurradonXylles said: Anyone can make a "VCS" that's comparable in retro game compatibility with little more than a Raspberry Pi 4 or similarly spec'd single board computers, micro SD card loaded with RetroPie or Lakka, and one of several options for Atari 2600 Pi cases that can be bought premade/pre-printed or be 3D printed yourself. Also, assuming Rob here is speaking to us directly on this thread as well as responding to criticism on Facebook: we literally have a number of industry veterans who have been observing the hilarious shitshow Atari's been putting on for us, as well as our snark at their expense, or are directly contributing to the peanut gallery chatter. We even have a few people who have worked on/are currently working on hardware, including Tommy Tallarico, leader of Intellivision Entertainment and leading the development of the Intellivision Amico, and Curt Vendel, who designed, among other things, the Atari Flashback 2 (the only Atari PNP console that's a true hardware clone of the 2600) under contract by another era of Atari that actually gave a damn about their heritage. Some of us trolls have actually made hardware that can run games a helluva lot better than Atari's smoke and mirrors, one way or another. But, no, no, Atari will certainly blow all of us away with their Tacobox running a modified version of Debian, or one of its forked distros, that's far less optimized for gaming or feature rich than Steam OS or even Ubuntu. That's even assuming the console will launch at all. Don't worry... We'll wait. I accept Robert's challenge. 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S1500 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 I thought there was going to be a discussion on one of the developers that just jumped ship, but looking at the 10000 pictures and videos for the last few pages, I was wrong. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+frankodragon Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 There are still some of those that think the new Atari is the old one: 4 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DurradonXylles Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, S1500 said: I thought there was going to be a discussion on one of the developers that just jumped ship, but looking at the 10000 pictures and videos for the last few pages, I was wrong. Unless someone else significant fell off of the project within the last day, we've already said about as much as we could about Rob Wyatt and his departure from the VCS project about fifteen pages back when the "unsubstantiated rumors" started getting confirmed by the Register as not-so-unsubstantiated (with Atari confirming soon after in protest). This thread tends to shitpost a lot between El Reg exposés, Atari's glittery, overly written Medium articles, and the dumpster fires started by their social media/reddit convos. We entertain ourselves because the iterations of Atari most of us grew up with and enjoyed has long since died, with the current corporate leadership seeing the brand and its heritage as gateways to funnel money from potential Ponzi schemes and one arm bandit conversions of old licenses (though, to be fair, everything under the sun has slot/pachinko conversions, and Konami was already doing that shit years prior); we're playing Statler and Waldorf to the Muppet Show Atari SA is putting on, and enjoying every minute of it. Edited October 16, 2019 by DurradonXylles 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PlaysWithWolves Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 7 hours ago, S1500 said: I thought there was going to be a discussion on one of the developers that just jumped ship, but looking at the 10000 pictures and videos for the last few pages, I was wrong. There wasn't really much to say The medium.com post confirmed what a couple posters here said days before about Atari being 6-12 months away from production, with proper testing. The non-payment news fit in with failing crowdfunded campaigns, but was also not proven. There were suggestions to remember Wyatt has a history of not playing well with others. And we pointed out the curious timing of Wyatt's new Kickstarter. What would you like to discuss? Would sending my out a single AtariVCS in December fulfill their promise to start shipping to backers by then? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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