Flojomojo Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 AtGames and 1Up are the licensees I know about for actually making game-related things. XSolla, UberStrategist, and IndieGogo are the partners I know about for "Atari VCS." SurfaceInk was mentioned in Kieren's story as a rumored partner but their involvement wasn't proven and "Atari" is secretive (maybe because they don't pay on time)! They also have their sketchy cryptocurrency and casino licensing, and anything could happen when getting in bed with those people. My wild ass guess: Indiegogo doesn't like that "Atari" turned off their crowdfund scampaign while simultaneously failing to show progress AND listing their stuff for pre-sale off the IGG site. I would not be surprised if this goes against some seller terms of service. if I were IGG, I'd want my ENTIRE cut of the scam I helped promote and host, not just the start of it. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBeefy Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 37 minutes ago, AtariLeaf said: Since the Atari VCS religious zealots watch this thread, I'm curious how secretly nervous they are regarding potential lawsuit news, all while maintaining the public facade of quiet determination The lawsuit is fine because it means they are making it better. 3 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBeefy Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 9 minutes ago, Flojomojo said: AtGames and 1Up are the licensees I know about for actually making game-related things. XSolla, UberStrategist, and IndieGogo are the partners I know about for "Atari VCS." SurfaceInk was mentioned in Kieren's story as a rumored partner but their involvement wasn't proven and "Atari" is secretive (maybe because they don't pay on time)! They also have their sketchy cryptocurrency and casino licensing, and anything could happen when getting in bed with those people. My wild ass guess: Indiegogo doesn't like that "Atari" turned off their crowdfund scampaign while simultaneously failing to show progress AND listing their stuff for pre-sale off the IGG site. I would not be surprised if this goes against some seller terms of service. if I were IGG, I'd want my ENTIRE cut of the scam I helped promote and host, not just the start of it. Actually PowerA would be a great guess. It is probably the one thing completed and not paid for. Wasn't the first campaign delay due to them trying to screw over Dreamgear (?) or someone over the controller design? That was many tacos ago someone help refresh my memory. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Revised guess: perhaps when "Atari" went after Hyperkin for their Retron77 machine and controllers, it blew up in their face. What if the VCS controller were determined not to be a protected trademark/cash cow milkable only by "Atari." ? Besides their catalogue of hopelessly outdated intellectual property, what else do they really have? There's a hold for discovery while they work it out in court. I could understand the secretive "Atari" not wanting to make a big public deal of it. Personally, I'm rooting for Hyperkin. ? Atari complaint against Hyperkin.pdfHyperkin protective order.pdf Here is a partial list of recent enemies made by "Atari," mostly t-shirt printers. Recall that income from these lawsuits made up much of "Atari's" income last year. Their trademark-troll lawyers are sometimes more lucrative than their license deals, and way more profitable than their nonexistent game developers. Atari Interactive, Inc. v. Ooshirts, Inc. (3:19-cv-00264) Courts > California Northern District Court Filed: Jan 15, 2019 Judge: Jon S Tigar Nature of Suit: Property Rights - Trademark Cause: 15:1114 Trademark Infringement Parties Matched: Atari Interactive, Inc. Atari Interactive, Inc. v. Teespring, Inc. (3:19-cv-00111) Courts > California Northern District Court Filed: Jan 08, 2019 Judge: Jon S Tigar Nature of Suit: Property Rights - Trademark Cause: 15:44 Trademark Infringement Parties Matched: Atari Interactive, Inc. Atari Interactive, Inc. v. Teespring, Inc. (5:19-cv-00111) Courts > California Northern District Court Filed: Jan 08, 2019 Judge: Jon S Tigar Nature of Suit: Property Rights - Trademark Cause: 15:44 Trademark Infringement Parties Matched: Atari Interactive, Inc. Atari Interactive, Inc. v. Hyperkin Inc. (2:19-cv-00608) Courts > California Central District Court Filed: Jan 25, 2019 Judge: Christina A Snyder Nature of Suit: Property Rights - Trademark Cause: 15:1125 Trademark Infringement (Lanham Act) Parties Matched: Atari Interactive, Inc. Atari Interactive, Inc. v. Target Corporation (1:19-cv-03111) Courts > New York Southern District Court Filed: Apr 08, 2019 Judge: Lewis A Kaplan Nature of Suit: Property Rights - Trademark Cause: 15:1051 Trademark Infringement Parties Matched: Atari Interactive, Inc. Atari Interactive, Inc. v. ooShirts, Inc. (4:19-cv-00264) Courts > California Northern District Court Filed: Jan 15, 2019 Judge: Jon S Tigar Nature of Suit: Property Rights - Trademark Cause: 15:1114 Trademark Infringement Parties Matched: Atari Interactive, Inc. Atari Interactive, Inc. v. Teespring, Inc. (4:19-cv-00111) Courts > California Northern District Court Filed: Jan 08, 2019 Judge: Jon S Tigar Nature of Suit: Property Rights - Trademark Cause: 15:44 Trademark Infringement Parties Matched: Atari Interactive, Inc. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBerel Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 That's the word on the street about the controllers. In any event, unless you're some unfortunate zealot with a reality distortion field, you can't help but conclude that virtually everything Atari has communicated has been extremely misleading, a lie, or deliberate fraud, so another lawsuit is about as surprising as an Irish Atari fan with a drinking problem. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, MrBeefy said: Actually PowerA would be a great guess. It is probably the one thing completed and not paid for. Wasn't the first campaign delay due to them trying to screw over Dreamgear (?) or someone over the controller design? That was many tacos ago someone help refresh my memory. Oh yeah, how could I forget the anonymous PowerA employee with the Atari joystick tattoo? Why didn't "Atari" sue that guy, too? Maybe they just shorted him on payments. There are "partners" everywhere, since they don't have many in-house resources. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariLeaf Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, JBerel said: That's the word on the street about the controllers. In any event, unless you're some unfortunate zealot with a reality distortion field, you can't help but conclude that virtually everything Atari has communicated has been extremely misleading, a lie, or deliberate fraud, so another lawsuit is about as surprising as an Irish Atari fan with a drinking problem. Poor John. I hope he gets at least a partial refund so he can afford a lamp and not have to make all his videos in the dark 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBeefy Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Flojomojo said: Oh yeah, how could I forget the anonymous PowerA employee with the Atari joystick tattoo? Why didn't "Atari" sue that guy, too? Maybe they just shorted him on payments. There are "partners" everywhere, since they don't have many in-house resources. They would sue the tattoo artist not the guy who bought it. Maybe they didn't pay for that storage shed they met in with their hands down their pants? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBeefy Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, AtariLeaf said: Poor John. I hope he gets at least a partial refund so he can afford a lamp and not have to make all his videos in the dark Maybe we could talk that Atari Dude into sending him something. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 ConverseBox has shown more gameplay than AtariBox! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 oops, double post this is for "Atari" only. ~~~ Go out of business, and give your meager assets to the public domain where they belong ~~~ 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBeefy Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Flojomojo said: ConverseBox has shown more gameplay than AtariBox! It has been shown to boot up too unlike the AtariBox. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Looks like there has been some action with the spectacularly greedy/stupid Atari Vs. Target suit, too. This is about the "Foot Pong" in-store projector minigame that has probably not been used in years now. https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/27754525/Atari_Interactive,_Inc_v_Target_Corporation Last I saw of this one, Target stated that "Atari" has failed to state a claim or prove that they really owned the trademark to Pong. ? I'm running out of free PACER downloads, someone else get this one please. ? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy the Atarian Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 13 minutes ago, Flojomojo said: Looks like there has been some action with the spectacularly greedy/stupid Atari Vs. Target suit, too. This is about the "Foot Pong" in-store projector minigame that has probably not been used in years now. https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/27754525/Atari_Interactive,_Inc_v_Target_Corporation Last I saw of this one, Target stated that "Atari" has failed to state a claim or prove that they really owned the trademark to Pong. ? I'm running out of free PACER downloads, someone else get this one please. ? Someone must have gone onto KLOV.com and looked up the plethora of Pong clones If anything, Target could always say they were copying the abandonware Paddle Battle and not Pong. Either way, I'm looking forward to Atari getting a taste of their own lawfare medicine for a change, whoever it is. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaysWithWolves Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 2 hours ago, MrBeefy said: Wasn't the first campaign delay due to them trying to screw over Dreamgear (?) Good memory! But why couldn't it be Dreamgear itself for getting their joystick design stolen? For those who may not have been around back then, Westchester Technologies is @Curt Vendel: On 6/26/2018 at 12:23 AM, tschak909 said: For those who want to know why Atari pulled the first round of Crowdfunding, and what the excuse of "Problems with the supplier" really meant: On 6/26/2018 at 11:20 AM, The Historian said: Thom and I have had our differences, the Westchester Tech post is an accurate account of what happened. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBeefy Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 17 minutes ago, PlaysWithWolves said: Good memory! But why couldn't it be Dreamgear itself for getting their joystick design stolen? For those who may not have been around back then, Westchester Technologies is @Curt Vendel: Wonder if PowerA used the Dreamgear designs? I don't know maybe PowerA has an ax to grind? Or maybe it's something else??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TACODON Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 A lawsuit against Atari over the VCS... a little early for a Christmas Miracle but I will take it. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 12 hours ago, Shaggy the Atarian said: Sorry, but... IMHO (The Mandalorian might be an exception). But I'll try not to derail this delicious thread too far other than that. Yeah, but we're talking the probability of it being 5~14 frames a second on the mythical VCS. Supercross 3D on the Jaguar will run smoother than Fortnite on the VCS. My guess is that Fortnite players are fine with a tiny bit of lag (25~30fps being considered "low"), just like how major, but temporary, slowdown in bullet hell shmups gives you the chance to maybe escape doom. But playing a fast slideshow for pretty much any modern game for the entire time you are playing said game? I highly doubt that can be considered a selling point for anyone remotely serious about gaming. I actually was being sarcastic. Of course competitive battle royale gamers don't want low frame rates. The smoother, the better. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agillig Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, TACODON said: A lawsuit against Atari over the VCS... a little early for a Christmas Miracle but I will take it. More interesting is what it means for the project. All speculation, of course, but if they don't even know what controller they'll be shipping with the system, it's obvious they're going to miss the December ship date to backers. If this is true, I'm not sure how even the most loyal supporter doesn't see the light. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColecoJoe Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 3 hours ago, Flojomojo said: ConverseBox has shown more gameplay than AtariBox! The jokes on you bro. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBeefy Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, ColecoJoe said: The jokes on you bro. Oh Andy...oh Andy...oh poor poor Andy. He has no clue does he? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TACODON Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 14 minutes ago, Agillig said: More interesting is what it means for the project. All speculation, of course, but if they don't even know what controller they'll be shipping with the system, it's obvious they're going to miss the December ship date to backers. If this is true, I'm not sure how even the most loyal supporter doesn't see the light. I've been expecting them to miss this deadline for awhile. Honestly I think this project is deader than most want to admit. They clearly came at this for a cash grab with no clue what to do next. Besides clearly hoping for a buy-out. That buy-out though is obviously not happening any time soon. Fred's game plan from how I see it... 1 Rip off ideas from other people and crowd fund it as if you have something. 2 Take the money and run. 3 Sell the company because it is hot and in-demand and relevant again. 4 Let the new owners figure this mess out. 5 Eat 3 Million dollars worth of tacos and do this again with another dead brand... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBerel Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 21 minutes ago, MrBeefy said: Oh Andy...oh Andy...oh poor poor Andy. He has no clue does he? He really, truly has no clue of which he speaks. What a bafoon. The real question is, did Slifker games score another Biffy award this year?? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digdugnate Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 1 hour ago, JBerel said: He really, truly has no clue of which he speaks. What a bafoon. The real question is, did Slifker games score another Biffy award this year?? i was wondering about that. i did notice on the Slifker website that he's pretty much removed all the Atari references except for his 'beta' jigsaw program. edit to add- yes. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 I want to look closer at that Atari v Hyperkin suit, it's super douchey. "Atari" is claiming that Hyperkin is benefitting from Atari's old reputation and trade dress (wood grain, rubbery joystick). They are demanding that Hyperkin render unto Atari damages in the amount of three times all Retron77's profits plus legal fees, and to destroy all the offending product. Huge brass balls on that lame retro brand custodian. I do not like them, not one bit. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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