New Atari Console that Ataribox?

[+frankodragon]

 

 

[ColecoJoe]

I wonder whatever happened to the guy that was supposed to name his new kid Atari?

[MrBeefy]

1 minute ago, ColecoJoe said:

I wonder whatever happened to the guy that was supposed to name his new kid Atari?

They were waiting to name until it was released. 'The kid' will be 30 married with a kid on the way. Maybe 'the kid' will get a bright idea to name their kid Amico?

[JBerel]

I bet that kid will be one passive aggressive dipshit.

[PlaysWithWolves]

28 minutes ago, MrBeefy said:

So @PlaysWithWolves did you get to see the first prototype? Box and all?

 

  They said IndieGoGo backers may not get the retail packaging.  I can't really say more, but there's exciting things to come.  

[CPUWIZ]

Has anyone seen a wireless controller yet?  Maybe I missed it.

[dj_convoy]

9 minutes ago, CPUWIZ said:

Has anyone seen a wireless controller yet?  Maybe I missed it.

[Shawn]

1 hour ago, PlaysWithWolves said:

 

 I can't really say more, but there's exciting things to come.  

 

I hope you are being sarcastic.

[MrBeefy]

No Converse box then? This really is a scam now. It isn't a legit VCS without the shoebox.

[TankedThomas]

1 hour ago, frankodragon said:

 

 

And since it's our pal Lucas, it's unironic. 

 

Just a reminder that this guy has children. Or a child, anyway.

 

And he probably called them Atari. 

1 hour ago, PlaysWithWolves said:

They said IndieGoGo backers may not get the retail packaging.  I can't really say more, but there's exciting things to come.  

Let me guess: they get the exclusive pink bubble wrap instead?

[Lodmot]

34 minutes ago, Shawn said:

 

I hope you are being sarcastic.

There is no way in hell he's actually serious xDDD

[OCAT]

That kid will probably get sued by Atari S.A,

On a side note Power A is better than Atari S.A because they probably have employees, and pay them, unlike Atari that does not have employees and would probably not pay them since they did not pay Rob for his work.
And you might say that they will employ the workers in the factory to make this POS console, but until that happens and they turn a profit Atari is nothing more than a crew of E-beggers.

(Allegedly)

[+Nathan Strum]

3 hours ago, CPUWIZ said:

Has anyone seen a wireless controller yet?  Maybe I missed it.

Just unplug it. Works just as well.

[TankedThomas]

2 hours ago, OCAT said:

That kid will probably get sued by Atari S.A,

On a side note Power A is better than Atari S.A because they probably have employees, and pay them, unlike Atari that does not have employees and would probably not pay them since they did not pay Rob for his work.
And you might say that they will employ the workers in the factory to make this POS console, but until that happens and they turn a profit Atari is nothing more than a crew of E-beggers.

(Allegedly)

It's sad that we've got to the point where even such a low bar is too high for "Atari". 

[roots.genoa]

9 hours ago, Matt_B said:

there's no Amiibo, no HD Rumble

I think that's also the case with most (if not all) third party controllers, though.

[Lodmot]

I want Atari to wish my tiny ball of lint happy birthday. It just turned one day old. o u o

[PlaysWithWolves]

 

11 hours ago, Shawn said:

 

I hope you are being sarcastic.

 

11 hours ago, Lodmot said:

There is no way in hell he's actually serious xDDD

 

How dare you suggest that my 180° reversal of opinion after an evening of being treated like a VIP, given a luxury car ride, some cool swag, preview time with a controversial console months before release, and promises of more traffic to my channel be anything but legitimate.  I'm shocked, shocked that accusations of impropriety are going on here.

 

Clearly you guys are passive-aggressive haters here only to stir up trouble.  I'm not suggesting anyone should be removed from this thread but

 

 

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[Lodmot]

2 hours ago, PlaysWithWolves said:

 

 

 

How dare you suggest that my 180° reversal of opinion after an evening of being treated like a VIP, given a luxury car ride, some cool swag, preview time with a controversial console months before release, and promises of more traffic to my channel be anything but legitimate.  I'm shocked, shocked that accusations of impropriety are going on here.

Oh, i don't just dare.....

 

 

 

 

........ Also, WISH MY BALL OF LINT A HAPPY BIURTHDAY! >:0

[Mikebloke]

In all seriousness depending on how backers feel about any eventual final product might impact the fundraising industry itself. It was already deemed a legal grey-black area here in the UK because its deemed to be very closely related to pyramid schemes, to the point that many fundraising sites didn't operate in the UK for years until the legal loopholes had been found. 

 

It's one thing for a project to collapse completely, but it's another for a project to hobble to the end and not deliver its intended product. Wasn't 4k advertised originally? Not all the backers are going to be reading this thread, or ataris updates, the first time they might realise they are screwed is when their (exclusive backer) pink bubble wrapped ataribrick is forced through the letterbox. 

 

If enough angry customers get on board it could lead to legal changes around how fundraising sites are allowed to operate, especially with physical electrical devices such as the ataribrick. There is loads of existing laws on standards for electrical goods, it might be close enough to ensure at least civil lawsuits against atari in a post release future. 

[+frankodragon]

 

 

 

 

[Flojomojo]

31 minutes ago, Mikebloke said:

In all seriousness depending on how backers feel about any eventual final product might impact the fundraising industry itself. It was already deemed a legal grey-black area here in the UK because its deemed to be very closely related to pyramid schemes, to the point that many fundraising sites didn't operate in the UK for years until the legal loopholes had been found. 

 

It's one thing for a project to collapse completely, but it's another for a project to hobble to the end and not deliver its intended product. Wasn't 4k advertised originally? Not all the backers are going to be reading this thread, or ataris updates, the first time they might realise they are screwed is when their (exclusive backer) pink bubble wrapped ataribrick is forced through the letterbox. 

 

If enough angry customers get on board it could lead to legal changes around how fundraising sites are allowed to operate, especially with physical electrical devices such as the ataribrick. There is loads of existing laws on standards for electrical goods, it might be close enough to ensure at least civil lawsuits against atari in a post release future. 

I think we're already there in the United States ... if you look to the start of this thread, there's a lot of groaning over their choice of IndieGogo because it has a far worse reputation for failed delivery than Kickstarter. That one has a fair share of problems too. If you look up "crowdfunding fatigue," you'll find a bunch of articles from 2014 and 2015 as this is not a new phenomenon. Specific to the UK, the Spectrum remake console seems to have soured a lot of retro computer people in particular on every aspect of the concept. I would think that leadership in regulation and reform would come from UK or EU, which could have a worldwide impact. 

[Flojomojo]

[+frankodragon]

[OCAT]

^ Don't worry, I am sure Atari is going to pack in the cheapest most efficient Death Adapter for you backers over the pond, complete with a sleeved earth Pin.

As much as I would like to see a lockdown on kickstarters, I hate the thought of the government having to curtail the free choice of individuals and thier stupididty when it comes to thier own personal disposable income. Grown individuals should know better than to throw money away on a promise, if they did not learn this growning up then they deserve to suffer the minimal consequences, it is not like they are giving away life savings. If you have money to spend on retro gaming you are not starving. Then again some people eat ramen noodles just so they can pay for a low end BMW to look cool, sad. I eat Ramen noodles but by free choice and sometimes you need a quick snack & a Taco stand is not in the immediate vicinity. :D
Indiegogo non-requirement of a working prototype is beyond stupid. And windows running games in sandbox mode is NOT a prototype.

[Flojomojo]

34 minutes ago, frankodragon said:

 

 

 

 

Those RedEye reports are somewhat amusing. I've attached the most recent one here; the other two can be found elsewhere in this thread, with markups by yours truly. update_20200114_42561.pdf I've got the expert market analysis you can trust and all that noise. This one is more of the same, but they've downgraded the financials from a 4 to a 3, and they point a very rosy picture of "Atari" breaking through with new IP as if they know how to replicate the success of RollerCoaster Tycoon, which they don't even own. Fred gets extra points for his "passion" and "skin in the game" and they still have a line in there about the attractiveness of "Atari" as an acquisition target. I'm not going to mark this one up because it's boring and repetitive, but here are some quotes that are directly relevant to our favorite holistic ecosystem:

 

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The company also states that they have had a focus on the coming launch of VCS, which have impacted the time spent on licensing deals. We currently have limited insight into the performance of the new business line; Casino, Partners, and VCS. All of these new segments are in their start- up phase.

("still in their start-up phase," same as last report)

 

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VCS under the radar

Estimating sales for the VCS is uncertain ahead of the first customer reviews and tests. However, investors have almost forgotten the VCS’s potential as an mini-PC at an attractive price-point. If the product is high quality, the market could be substantial in an era of game streaming and digital distribution of games. The VCS can also be used as a streaming box for other digital entertainment like Netflix or Disney+, which broadens its customer appeal.

Our base case assumes sales of about 250k units over the coming four years. This compares to annual sales of about 500k Atari Flashbacks, which retail at around USD 80.

(again, same projections as last time)

 

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Catalysts

 

VCS release above expectations

It seems like the market has almost fully ignored the VCS and the potential it holds. The VCS can be viewed as a form of mini-PC at an attractive price. Our base case assumes sales of about 250k units over the next four years, compared to current annual sales of 500k Atari Flashbacks, which retail at around USD 80.

 

Going beyond RCT

Besides new RCT games, Atari is also developing new releases based on some of its largest brands: Asteroids and Pong. These will be key drivers of revenue growth in the year ahead.

 

An acquisition target

We view Atari as an attractive acquisitions target thanks to the extensive IP portfolio, strong balance sheet, profitability, and the loss-carry forwards.

(again, literally the same text as last report)

 

Sorry it's not more interesting, but it's "Atari," where no news is good news. At least they seem to have downplayed their "Atari, so much more than video games" slogan -- which makes sense, since video games (not necessarily theirs) are hot, and that's the main thing they've got.