New Atari Console that Ataribox?

[+frankodragon]

Looks like Atari SA has a skeleton in their closet. Frontier Developments has yet to collect additional royalties from Atari SA back in 2017 for RCT3.

[The Historian]

NSS, but what incentive would anyone have to bother with this minuscule marketplace (assuming it actually happens)?

 

It costs nothing to upload to a different platform. So why not, maybe someone buys it you make a little. Don't upload you are guaranteed to make nothing

[The Historian]

Looks like Atari SA has a skeleton in their closet. Frontier Developments has yet to collect additional royalties from Atari SA back in 2017 for RCT3.

 

That's no skeleton, that's how Atari SA works.

[RainbowCemetery]

i wouldn't say it costs nothing. whatever market integration is required takes some time, and you're now on the hook for maintenance if their market or os updates introduce new problems. there's certainly a point where you can say it's not worth the effort to press that export button.

[CPUWIZ]

 

That's no skeleton, that's how Atari SA works.

 

They work? I thought they just take investors money, piss it away and go onto the next one.

[x=usr(1536)]

 

It costs nothing to upload to a different platform. So why not, maybe someone buys it you make a little. Don't upload you are guaranteed to make nothing

 

Right, but that's really no different to saying that if you don't toss a buck into the lottery, you can't win.

[x=usr(1536)]

 

That's no skeleton, that's how Atari SA works.

 

Does this mean that Atari SA basically fails to honour its obligations to its developers?

 

If so, that's going to make attracting developers to the AtariVCSbox platform difficult.

[BiffsGamingVideos]

 

It costs nothing to upload to a different platform. So why not, maybe someone buys it you make a little. Don't upload you are guaranteed to make nothing

 

It does cost something. There is the time to make it work (like controllers). You need to market the game which costs money. Then you need to support the game with updates and bug fixes. Believe me, they will find bugs and let you know. It's more of how much profit can be made to release it on the Atari UI verses spending time doing another game? SO you have to have an expert on that system you are supporting.

 

Here's an example:

- On a xbox/windows machine the ABXY buttons are buttons 0-1-2-3. So the windows controllers start at 0 (6pm), 1 (3 pm), 2(9pm) and 3 (1noon).

- Linux is the same but wired controllers and wireless controllers support dpad axis and dpad key differently.

- Mac OX is way different

- On a playstation, the same buttons are clockwise starting at 12 noon in those locations are 2-1-3-0 (noon, 3pm, 6pm, 9pm)

 

I had a meeting with a video game distributor last night. I asked him if I should do a kickstarter project and see if I could get 5K or something before release. He said it's 3 months of full time work doing the kickstarter. Every day there needs to be things written, videos made and tons of junk. He thought it might be a good idea but it would be a lot of work. I'd have no time for 3 months to do anything else. Then I told him I have several other games that are mostly done. He didn't know that as I usually don't mention projects until they are almost done. In 3 months I could get 1 of the other titles finished. So instead of trying to squeeze 5k out of a few people, I could finish another game and try to get $200k. So the end result is doing a kickstarter campaign would yield me a lot less that spending time on another game for the same amount of time.

Edited May 5, 2018 by BiffsGamingVideos

[x=usr(1536)]

Video games are neat!

 

Tacos are better, though.

Edited May 5, 2018 by x=usr(1536)

[Flojomojo]

Today in "Atari"

 

https://www.valuewalk.com/2018/05/atari-token-ethereum-founder/

 

"Atari Token has enlisted Anthony Di Iorio, co-founder of Ethereum, as an honorary co-founder to join their team. Just days after the announcement of the Atari VCS budget console, this news brings yet another opportunity for the 40-year-old Atari brand name to revolutionize the world of entertainment."

 

I haven't seen the nuVCS called a "budget console" before. Also, WTAF.

 

"GIBRALTAR, May 4, 2018 The development team behind the Atari Token and Atari Platform Network, Infinity Networks Limited, has announced the addition of honorary co-founder, Anthony Di Iorio to its ambitious blockchain project. The Atari Platform Network aims to enable users to benefit from the value created through their time, effort and skill in games, digital entertainment and alternate realities. The goal of the platform is to provide developers and content creators with an environment where virtual services and property can deliver real world value to the estimated more than two billion people playing games annually. Di Iorio, one of the original founders of Ethereum and founder and CEO of leading cryptocurrency wallet Jaxx, serves as Honorary co-founder and initial investor in the Atari Platform Network."

 

The stock price is down another 4% to 0.58, a little closer to my arbitrary personal "goal" of under 0.50 by May 30th.

[+KaeruYojimbo]

"Atari Token has enlisted Anthony Di Iorio, co-founder of Ethereum, as an honorary co-founder to join their team. Just days after the announcement of the Atari VCS budget console, this news brings yet another opportunity for the 40-year-old Atari brand name to revolutionize the world of entertainment."

 

Man, it's only been a couple of days? It feels like it's been a year since they announced that thing.

Edited May 5, 2018 by KaeruYojimbo

[Flojomojo]

Man, it's only been a couple of days? It feels like it's been a year since they announced that thing.

I know, right? It will be at least a year, probably two, before we can confidently make it #18 on this list.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Vaporware_game_consoles

 

Can we maintain interest for that long?

[cybercylon]

This thread is cruel to low-carbers and AtariboxVCS fans alike.

 

Add low sodium to that.

 

Actually, now that I have been away from most of that food for awhile, I am not sure I really miss it too much. Do I want to feel that way again and have the weight back? Not really.

 

Okay, that was off topic...

 

Is Paddy Power taking bets on any of the following?

 

1. The campaign is delayed again one day before it starts.

2. Two days after the delay, another announcement is scheduled.

3. The campaign starts, but does not receive enough and is pulled. Nothing is produced. (Add odds for whether or not people get their money back)

4. The funding falls short, but something half baked is made that doesn't do much more than what the latest Roku or AppleTV does. Streaming apps, some games, mostly old ones, and whatever can be run from Steam that the hardware can handle.

5. Campaign is funded, console is made, but it never sees the light of day on a retail shelf

 

(I'll just add to the list....)

[BiffsGamingVideos]

If Atari wanted to gain support for the VCSii, then STOP TALKING. Geez, enough with the press announcements. It's old already.

 

 

Do this instead Atari. Are you listening?????

1) Anyone who prebuys the system from may30-dec31 gets to suggest the name of the system. Atari picks out 10 of the best and people vote on jan1. Then the final 3 get voted on feb 1. When sports teams do it people love it. Wouldn't it be cool to go around saying you named the X-Box or PlayStation? Give people a reason to order a year early.

2) Give any developer a system and overpriced hat for free. As long as the developer releases a game. Then reduce their fees from 30% to 10% for the first year but only if they have then ready on day 1. Bam! Some games on launch.

3) Any developer that gets a game out on day 1 gets free downloads of all of the day 1 games.

 

This is how you gain support. Not from stupid press releases about another bitcoin. I got a lot more. Just ask...or don't. Whatever.

Edited May 5, 2018 by BiffsGamingVideos

[leech]

All we have to go on is the near-takedown by The Register and the mush mouthed interview by Eurogamer. Whether "Atari" can/will do what they say is another question entirely, but here's what they said:

I have no idea why Minecraft and Terraria would "need" to be the Atari store, but that's the type of low-effort "port" I would anticipate in the best case scenario. As others have said, Ouya 2.

It can't be an Ouya 2 though. Ouya was Android based, and a large majority of Android software doesn't even properly support a gamepad. Especially a few years ago when it was released. This (supposedly if it ever will exist) runs Linux, which I have almost 1000 commercial games on Steam for. Will it be good for playing all of those games? Probably not, because of hardware specs, some don't play well with gamepads, and some (due to the engine) won't even work with a gamepad on Linux.

 

If I could get a miniaturized case / motherboard setup and install Linux myself, I would. Unfortunately anything I build will be A) more than 300. B) be either small and loud, or large and quiet, and a game console should be both (PS4 fails at this even, whines whenever one tries something graphically intensive. Bloodborne makes me think weird creatures are coming from in front of me as the PS4 howls...)

 

I never understood the Ouya, though it somehow made it into retail stores! Wonder if Atari will manage to do that.

[pacman000]

If Atari wanted to gain support for the VCSii, then STOP TALKING. Geez, enough with the press announcements. It's old already.

 

 

Do this instead Atari. Are you listening?????

1) Anyone who prebuys the system from may30-dec31 gets to suggest the name of the system. Atari picks out 10 of the best and people vote on jan1. Then the final 3 get voted on feb 1. When sports teams do it people love it. Wouldn't it be cool to go around saying you named the X-Box or PlayStation? Give people a reason to order a year early.

2) Give any developer a system and overpriced hat for free. As long as the developer releases a game. Then reduce their fees from 30% to 10% for the first year but only if they have then ready on day 1. Bam! Some games on launch.

3) Any developer that gets a game out on day 1 gets free downloads of all of the day 1 games.

 

This is how you gain support. Not from stupid press releases about another bitcoin. I got a lot more. Just ask...or don't. Whatever.

[RainbowCemetery]

the ouya is thus far the only thing i put up crowdfunding dollars for and i still use it as a media/emulator box so i feel no regrets. i never bought anything from their store though, since most everything on there was also available on the play store, usually for less money, with the added benefit of not being locked down to a box with an uncertain future.

 

if the ataricrate can have steam on it, and i don't think they could prevent it if they wanted to, why would any human ever buy anything from the proposed atarimarket over steam? why would any dev with a linux version of their game on steam feel like they need to do anything additional at all?

[Pink]

Today in "Atari"

 

https://www.valuewalk.com/2018/05/atari-token-ethereum-founder/

 

"Atari Token has enlisted Anthony Di Iorio, co-founder of Ethereum, as an honorary co-founder to join their team. Just days after the announcement of the Atari VCS budget console, this news brings yet another opportunity for the 40-year-old Atari brand name to revolutionize the world of entertainment."

Budget console, what!?!?

[tschak909]

Seriously, is anyone surprised by the console being passively labeled as a "budget console?"

 

-Thom

[+GoldLeader]

If Atari wanted to gain support for the VCSii, then STOP TALKING. Geez, enough with the press announcements. It's old already.

 

 

Do this instead Atari. Are you listening?????

1) Anyone who prebuys the system from may30-dec31 gets to suggest the name of the system. Atari picks out 10 of the best and people vote on jan1. Then the final 3 get voted on feb 1. When sports teams do it people love it. Wouldn't it be cool to go around saying you named the X-Box or PlayStation? Give people a reason to order a year early.

2) Give any developer a system and overpriced hat for free. As long as the developer releases a game. Then reduce their fees from 30% to 10% for the first year but only if they have then ready on day 1. Bam! Some games on launch.

3) Any developer that gets a game out on day 1 gets free downloads of all of the day 1 games.

 

This is how you gain support. Not from stupid press releases about another bitcoin. I got a lot more. Just ask...or don't. Whatever.

 

 

You have some Good Ideas here Biff...

 

I don't think new Atari likes those...

[godslabrat]

Seriously, is anyone surprised by the console being passively labeled as a "budget console?"

 

-Thom

I kind of am, just because it seemed to be spun as a luxury/hipster box for a while. Now they're pitching it as less than the competition, but we only have the indiegogo price to go by... Atari seems to be implying the $200 is just the early bird price, and they haven't given up charging $300 for it later on.

 

Frankly, I'm in the crowd that thinks, if it ever exists at all, it's destined for $50 clearance bins.

[CPUWIZ]

Frankly, I'm in the crowd that thinks, if it ever exists at all, it's destined for $50 clearance bins.

 

I am in the crowd that says it will never be in a retail store.

[pacman000]

I would've said that about the OUYA, but it made it to retailers, if only barely.

[+frankodragon]

Companies refuse to listen to individuals. It must be in their little secret managerial handbooks.

[JBerel]

Today in "Atari"

https://www.valuewalk.com/2018/05/atari-token-ethereum-founder/

Also, WTAF.

"The Atari Platform Network aims to enable users to benefit from the value created through their time, effort and skill in games, digital entertainment and alternate realities."

WTAF indeed.

 

Finally! A platform network to enable me to benefit from the value created through my time, effort and skill in games, digital entertainment and alternate realities. The transmedia synergy is palpable! Where do I sign up?

Edited May 6, 2018 by JBerel