digdugnate Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Meaning what, exactly? That IndieGogo isn't messing around, which is bad news for shysters? Or that the Vega is somehow different from Ataribox? well, kind of what i meant is that i wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if the Ataribox ends up being like the Vega- i apologize for being vague. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaysWithWolves Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 I was going to say "Bravo" to Indiegogo, but from what I can tell this stems from a successful lawsuit a backer pursued. You're probably more up-to-date on all this than I am, but basically the judge ruled it was a sales contract due to the wording. Sounds like there's your precedent for Atari and its sales-like wording*. Too bad it only took two years, two months and a lawsuit to get to this point. *I'm not a lawyer but I play one on the Internets. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 In his rambling appearance on "GamerTag Radio," the Atari rep explicitly said they chose IGG for their focus on "preorder" in addition to crowdfunding. He wasn't super clear, of course. I agree they could be hoisted on their own petards if they're very late or otherwise fail to meet expectations. I think they'll deliver the AtariBox, I just think it's a poor concept and likely not to be what the "useful computer" that backers thought they were getting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariLeaf Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 You're trying to be rational with The FIRST video game reviewer with videos on the internet starting in 1994! You're cleaning the coffee and spit off my laptop keyboard thank you very much 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexkeaton Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 On a serious note: Last year there was a short Pac-Man Teaser. It said coming soon with no more detail at all. But nothing came after that until this day. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZlYcS3V3vA I wonder if this has to do with the new Atari VCS. What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacman000 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Unless Atari's paying for it they're probably not related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godslabrat Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 On a serious note: Last year there was a short Pac-Man Teaser. It said coming soon with no more detail at all. But nothing came after that until this day. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZlYcS3V3vA I wonder if this has to do with the new Atari VCS. What do you think? I really doubt it, and here's why: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=c7lTAcFblhg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBerel Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 So what more came of it? The video you linked was put up last year, and it doesn't even have enough to suggest it's a teaser or just a random clip from any of 100 existing PacMan games. It's a tiny little nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVgaTv Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 On a serious note: Last year there was a short Pac-Man Teaser. It said coming soon with no more detail at all. But nothing came after that until this day. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZlYcS3V3vA I wonder if this has to do with the new Atari VCS. What do you think? Well this year old 12 second clip that shows no gameplay, doesn't have a developer attached to it, is from a random gaming channel and doesn't mention Atari at all seals it, this is the greatest thing ever! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBerel Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 (edited) Between stuff like this, the Sigfox speculation, virtual reality bitcoin whatever rubbish and unsolicited financial expertise offered on a crap penny stock, I just gotta ask....what r u guys smoking. Really, cuz I want some of dat. Edited June 6, 2018 by JBerel 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiffsGamingVideos Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 (edited) OMG more spam from Atari! I'm getting 5 a day now. Here is there latest crowd funding campaign. AND WHY THE F--K DID THEY SEND ME THIS CRAP ANYWAYS? I'm into women. What are they thinking? Just because I am on their developers list does not mean they can keep on spamming me over and over about crap. It's been 1 screwup after another for the last year with Atari. they just can't seem to get anything right. (Oh geez, I just opened a can of worms) Edited June 7, 2018 by BiffsGamingVideos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 That's interesting ... it's another StartEngine "investment opportunity." https://www.startengine.com/lgbt-media-inc Once again, "Atari" and friends are between 5 and 10 years behind the curve. The time to launch a new social media presence has long past, and it's not like there's an unserved market here. Like their tone-deaf "Atari VCS" campaign that wouldn't know a good game if it were dropped on its head, or it's fuzzy-headed cryptocurrency flailing, this is buzzword-heavy, and appears to be written from the outsider's perspective of what the LGBT community might want. Our Success So Far While LGBTQutie started off as a website, we quickly transitioned to a mobile-first platform, when we realized that that's the option our users most craved. While we started out with success on our own, our partnership with Atari has put us over the edge and given us the ability to scale. As part of our partnership with Atari, we acquired PrideFest (now re-branded as QutieLife) an interactive game celebrating LGBTQ culture and pride. This will eventually be utilized as an onboarding platform for the LGBTQutie app. If there's any question about their motivation, this lays it to rest: Key Metrics Total App users: 60,000 80% retention rate 90% monthly active user rate With Marketing: 4,000 new users per month Average Customer acquisition cost $1.25 70,000 Social Media Followers Company featured in 35 editorials including: Huffington post, Inc. Magazine, GO! Magazine, Instinct, Pink News, Engadget, AlleyWatch Our Revenue Model Upgraded Premium Subscription Advertising: (Sponsored Blogs, Static/Video Ads, Affiliates, Email blasts) Sponsored Pop – Up Events In - App Token Purchases Our Target Demographic We especially target LGBTQ millenials between the ages of 18-35. LGBTQ people comprise 10-20% of the overall population. (Williams Institute: Gates, 2011) The LGBTQ market has over $900 billion dollars in buying power (Witeck-Combs, 2014) With only 60,000 users, they're not looking to conquer the world, just keep their project going and maybe get enough attention to grow a bit. Sounds a lot like "Atari." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBerel Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 So am I to assume there will be a rainbow colored Ataribox, or a pink version with sparkles? How many hundreds extra for those versions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youxia Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 launched a crowdfund Turning verbs into nouns, how QUTIE. Monetizing LGBT movement with a lame app? Not sure that's what the campaigners fought and asked for, but it certainly goes hand in hand with Atari SA's modus operandi. After all, these are the guys who whored out some stone cold classics and turned them into flash casino games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainbowCemetery Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 i didn't look into it super deep but i think selling off their pridefest game is the extent of atari's involvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 I can see that their very "successful" Indiegogo campaign has had a very positve impact on their stock. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBeefy Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 I'm 25. I can barely get people my age to try out a classic like River Raid that you can download free from Google Play or the iOS App Store on their smartphone, and if they do they usually end up telling me it's stupid or gay or something. I show them an Atari Flashback and they laugh at the idea of paying that kind of money to play 35+ year old games and say they can play all those games, or much better ones, for free on their computer or their phone. I don't even want to know what kind of reaction I'd get if I told them about the new VCS and the price and the fact the only titles so far are Atari Vault and (supposedly) Tempest 4000. The Atari name holds no value or meaning for them at all, just an ancient, old Video game system from long ago. And there are actually people that have no idea as to who or what Atari was/is. Go to Gamestop on a launch night for a Call of Duty game and show the kids Goldeneye on the Nintendo 64 or Wolfenstein 3D or Doom and they'll most likely have no interest. I dare you to and to tell me the reactions you get from people under 20. It'll probably be a similar reaction as to if you showed them these early 90s Taco Bell Commercials. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8c9OSo450Ec&t=23s What I find funny is all these new systems will not work in 20 years, yet my Atari Jr will continue to do so. In modern gaming you don't 'own' anything anymore. Once the OS goes your games are gone. Look at what's happening to the Wii eshop. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBeefy Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 That's interesting ... it's another StartEngine "investment opportunity." https://www.startengine.com/lgbt-media-inc Once again, "Atari" and friends are between 5 and 10 years behind the curve. The time to launch a new social media presence has long past, and it's not like there's an unserved market here. Like their tone-deaf "Atari VCS" campaign that wouldn't know a good game if it were dropped on its head, or it's fuzzy-headed cryptocurrency flailing, this is buzzword-heavy, and appears to be written from the outsider's perspective of what the LGBT community might want. If there's any question about their motivation, this lays it to rest: With only 60,000 users, they're not looking to conquer the world, just keep their project going and maybe get enough attention to grow a bit. Sounds a lot like "Atari." Did Stella just come out of the closet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOX2600 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 I was advised to read thru the last 30 days of this thread, but I dont have the time. Anyone feel like giving me a bullet point recap who knows this thread well starting with: New Atari console that Atari box thread created and John Hancock shows interest in what it could be (love ya John) and so on and so forth. With all these recent developments and back & forths Id love to be caught up to speed, even a quick general overview would be great, thanks all. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+frankodragon Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 I drove past this business just yesterday and it reminded me of the Atari logo upside-down: 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaysWithWolves Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Secret Perk is still active, though they may turn it off when business starts. Here's the Backerkit link. I can only see "number left" for the early birds, so I'm assuming they started with the rounded-up numbers found here. Then I added the last known numbers before they changed Early Bird to limited quantities to get a rough, if slightly low, total for each. Let me know if I missed anything. 1801 Woody sets 360* Onyx earlybird (318+42) 682* Onyx early set (637+45) 214* Onyx all in set (91+123) 3448 Woody all in set 1451 Secret Perk 7956 total console kits (10,314 total backers) Previous numbers: 1690 Woody sets 318 Onyx earlybird 637 Onyx early set 1 Onyx full price [REMOVED?] 1 Onyx full price set [REMOVED?] 91 Onyx all in set 2993 Woody all in set 1409 Special Perk 7138 total console kits (9242 total backers) Backerkit tracking link. An official explanation on Backerkit's prediction and trending models. Speaking of Tempest 4000, I thought this was interesting. Llamasoft has not developed a Linux port and has no insider knowledge of the AtariBox whatsoever. Considering how outspoken their main developer has been about other issues (sample -- you can probably imagine much Italian waving of hands), I don't think this is the NDA telling them to shut up. He's also stated that it could just be running in WINE, as it's not a graphically intense game. The Steam screens we've seen could be the "Big Picture" from a streaming device, not running natively. The Tempest 4000 demo we've seen could have had something other than AtariBox driving it. I'm guessing the backers don't know, or don't care. BTW latest tally of systems only (count the controllers yourself if you care -- click on "back it" to get the current tally) 1549 Woody sets 244 Onyx earlybird 566 Onyx early set 1 Onyx full price 1 Onyx full price set 149 Onyx all in set 2594 Woody all in set 5104 total edit: and maybe another 1400 "hidden perks?" Should they be included or counted separately? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariLeaf Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 I can see that their very "successful" Indiegogo campaign has had a very positve impact on their stock. ataristock6618.jpg Wow dodged a bullet there. I almost put my whole $3.50 bottle deposit refund in atari stock. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Wasn't it PrideFest that enforced the message that LGBT people better keep a low profile or otherwise get beaten down? While that unfortunately probably is true in many parts of the world, it might not be the message a LGBT friendly company like Atari wants to be, is supposed to convey in specifically designed games for the community. It would be like Atari makes new versions of their retro games, with the hidden message that retro games are lame anyway and that your cool friends will laugh at you for playing those 35+ year old games. A double message, both encouraging you to replay those old games and at the same time telling you it is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaysWithWolves Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Last year, Atari sold Pridefest to LGBT Media--the maker of this LGBTQutie app. A partnership was part of the deal, but who knows what that entails? Maybe it was as simple as LGBT Media being able to have the Atari brand associated with them, like on StartEngine. The press release seems to indicate as much: "... supported by strategic partner and iconic entertainment brand Atari®". Atari gets virtually free advertising as a bonus for selling their game rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBerel Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 I was advised to read thru the last 30 days of this thread, but I dont have the time. Anyone feel like giving me a bullet point recap who knows this thread well starting with: New Atari console that Atari box thread Per your request.... 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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