+frankodragon #9676 Posted June 18, 2018 Comparing Atari to Hasbro is like comparing a lemonade stand to Minute Maid Or you could just say Atari SA is like peeing in a gas station that's never been cleaned versus an executive washroom. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Nathan Strum #9677 Posted June 18, 2018 Maybe I can pick up a broken one on ebay some day. Why wait? The ones they have now already don't work. 11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt_B #9678 Posted June 18, 2018 Why wait? The ones they have now already don't work. You have to wait for the physical model rather than the vaporware one. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PlaysWithWolves #9679 Posted June 18, 2018 Nobody told the stock market that Atari's running a wildly successful crowdfunding campaign. Date | Event | Atari stock (EUR) ----------------------------------------------------- 05/29 pre-IGG 0.59 05/30 IGG begins 0.65 05/31 0.66 06/12 E3 begins 0.61 06/14 E3 ends 0.59 06/18 Currently* 0.57-0.58 *Subject to change as market is still open. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pacman000 #9680 Posted June 18, 2018 (edited) They should start a rumor they're going to merge with a small hard disk manufacturer. That helped their stock price last time. On Tuesday, February 13, [1996] Atari Corporation announces intentions to merge with Jugi Tandon Storage (JTS) Corporation by granting JTS an extended bridge loan of $25,000,000 to build 3” disk drives. Atari stockholders will hold 60% of the outstanding shares of the merged operations. The company will function under the name of JTS and Atari’s function to develop, manufacture and sell video games will be maintained as a separate division of JTS. Atari stock (ATC:AMEX) is one of the most active on the American Stock Exchange for the day with a volume of 3,297,300 up 3/16 to 2 1/16. Source: http://web.archive.org/web/20001207070200/http://www.icwhen.com:80/book/the90s/1996.html Edited June 18, 2018 by pacman000 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+frankodragon #9681 Posted June 18, 2018 The market's about to close but it's only around 67¢ USD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andromeda Stardust #9682 Posted June 18, 2018 Nobody told the stock market that Atari's running a wildly successful crowdfunding campaign. Date | Event | Atari stock (EUR) ----------------------------------------------------- 05/29 pre-IGG 0.59 05/30 IGG begins 0.65 05/31 0.66 06/12 E3 begins 0.61 06/14 E3 ends 0.59 06/18 Currently* 0.57-0.58 *Subject to change as market is still open. Atari, for all practical purposes, being less than one dollar, is a penny stock. No serious investor is going to dump money into that. Well maybe it's ripe for an old fashioned "pump and dump" scam, but kickstarter monies or not, if Atari fails to deliver, they'll crash and burn faster than the Hindenburg. Assuming Atari does deliver upon their promise and the Ataribox is released, then what? I suspect most people plan on using these as MAME / Emulation boxes, which, like Ouya before it, failed to sustain revenue. Without a sustainable ecosystem, they will flounder. So it's a terrible investment if they don't succeed, and a lousy one if they do. Stocks can stay low. I don't think there will be a tremendous boost in resale value after the campaign is over. Even if it is, it will be short lived, aka "pump and dump." I'd stay far away as an investor get rich quick scheme. And this is coming from the mouth of someone who "preordered" a $33 joystick. I won't lose any sleep if it never arrives. I've lost more money going out to pubs drinking on weekends than I have "investing" in new age Atari. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JBerel #9683 Posted June 18, 2018 Technically, anything under $5 a share that doesn't trade on major market exchanges is considered a penny stock. Being under a dollar a share puts Atari SA in some pretty disreputable company akin to businesses that appear and disappear at a moments notice. Just because they're publicly traded, doesn't mean they're reputable or stable. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mbd30 #9684 Posted June 18, 2018 Should I invest in cheap Atari stock because there's a chance that the VCS could take off big tmie? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flojomojo #9685 Posted June 18, 2018 No, of course not. I doubt the AtariBox will have much effect on the company's value one way or another. The sales numbers are too small and they're not betting the company on its success. It's a gimmicky one-off, nothing more, nothing less. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ColecoJoe #9686 Posted June 18, 2018 Should I invest in cheap Atari stock because there's a chance that the VCS could take off big tmie? Define BIG TIME 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mbd30 #9687 Posted June 18, 2018 Define BIG TIME I just don't want to be kicking myself in ten years knowing that I'd have been a millionaire had I invested in that Atari stock. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ColecoJoe #9688 Posted June 18, 2018 I just don't want to be kicking myself in ten years knowing that I'd have been a millionaire had I invested in that Atari stock. Haha, I think you'll be fine. Spend your money on something today! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pacman000 #9689 Posted June 18, 2018 Assuming Atari does deliver upon their promise and the Ataribox is released, then what? I suspect most people plan on using these as MAME / Emulation boxes, which, like Ouya before it, failed to sustain revenue. Without a sustainable ecosystem, they will flounder. So it's a terrible investment if they don't succeed, and a lousy one if they do. Counter argument: The Pandora https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandora_(console) Not a main stream success, but successful enough to last a few years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VladR #9690 Posted June 18, 2018 (edited) I just don't want to be kicking myself in ten years knowing that I'd have been a millionaire had I invested in that Atari stock. If that's the case, then this is what you really/really need to do: - take out second mortgage - max all credit cards - take out as much unsecured loans as your credit score can handle - sell your car, and buy a $1,000 beater - call for an extended family meeting, asking them to invest with you Pool all the cash, place a short order and laugh all the way to the bank You just need to BET IT ALL ! Edited June 18, 2018 by VladR 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PlaysWithWolves #9691 Posted June 18, 2018 I was being snarky about the stock prices because we had at least two people who swore Atari, SA was the greatest stock investment for investors to ever invest in. Good points though. One Speakerhat-wearing Atari, SA stockholder posted days ago on Reddit that Atari would be the stock to buy before E3. But then, I think that's always his answer, because of the frequently aforementioned pump-n-dump. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JBerel #9692 Posted June 18, 2018 The pump and dump this time was at their booth in the men's room at E3. 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toiletunes #9693 Posted June 18, 2018 Too many tacos? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
racerx #9694 Posted June 18, 2018 Let's face it. Other than a bump for the Indiegogo launch, it's been pretty much business as usual for Atari SA's worthless stock. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt_B #9695 Posted June 19, 2018 Yeah, the share price is pretty much meaningless. It took a nosedive a few years back and has been flatlining ever since. It's been a bit better this year than last, but I wouldn't read too much into the bumps. Getting back to the VCS, I doubt they're betting their shirts on it taking off enough to support its own ecosystem. If the crowdfunding numbers tell them that's not going to happen, they'll presumably have priced the hardware to make money on the margin and would fall back on existing software to fulfill their promises. You'll get Steam as your games store, Kodi as your media player, Dropbox as your cloud storage, Teamspeak for voice chat, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Atari PAC-MAN Fan #9696 Posted June 19, 2018 Most Lemonade stands have lemonade Most of them........ 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
godslabrat #9697 Posted June 19, 2018 Yeah, the share price is pretty much meaningless. It took a nosedive a few years back and has been flatlining ever since. It's been a bit better this year than last, but I wouldn't read too much into the bumps. Getting back to the VCS, I doubt they're betting their shirts on it taking off enough to support its own ecosystem. If the crowdfunding numbers tell them that's not going to happen, they'll presumably have priced the hardware to make money on the margin and would fall back on existing software to fulfill their promises. You'll get Steam as your games store, Kodi as your media player, Dropbox as your cloud storage, Teamspeak for voice chat, etc. I'm sure they can see the writing on the wall in terms of building a platform via crowdfunding-- it's not happening. What I'm confused by is... what was their Best Case Scenario? Did Atari really think they could sell ten times the Ouya at three times the price, with old ROMs rather than current titles? How far did they have to go before it was a viable product, and did they really think what they had could get that far? This line of thinking almost convinces me that Atari SA was looking to be bought out. That's a realistic goal for a team in their situation, and I think they're smart enough to realize it. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flojomojo #9698 Posted June 19, 2018 That is the only rational explanation from where I sit. All those blind dupes pledging forever loyalty to Atari are worth a lot more in a buyout situation than a consumer product launch. It would be funny if they decided to just buy everyone a Playstation 4 or something instead. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pacman000 #9699 Posted June 19, 2018 I wonder if Sony would create a private labeled/co-branded PS4.... Think of the possibilities. A new "Atari" system! Finally, a "Dreamcast" 2! Even a new TandyVision! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flojomojo #9700 Posted June 19, 2018 LOL the part of Coleco/Sears/CBS will be played by "Atari SA" in this decade's performance 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites