Flojomojo Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 The thought of removing our Xbox One's streaming apps to do everything through the browser makes my head hurt. Not to mention, as I showed, the AVCS is advertised as a media streaming device. That implies things, like a Netflix app easy enough for a mom to use. Yup, that doesn't sound like much fun at all. Fortunately, PS4 and Xbone (and 50 other things) have apps you can use instead. The statistical probability of a "mom" using the 2019 Atari VCS for streaming video has got to be vanishingly small, hard to measure, not unlike the rightmost portion of this chart. according to the arzt interview they'll have app versions as soon as other people decide it's a good idea to make them That's my read as well. It seems reasonable to expect some more information from them soon. When they say, "we have only just begun," I hear "the check is in the mail." I wonder when their honeymoon period with the backers is up? Of course, those of us watching at home were screaming not to get into that van in the first place, but ... I'm the exact opposite. I refuse to download a dedicated "app" for anything that I can accomplish on a modern web broswer. That's just providing another excuse for companies to track our internet useage. Erm, can't tell if you're joking or not, but I feel that a dedicated app is less (not more) likely to share your info than a cookie-infested browser. Anything digital is trackable to your IP whether you're logged into a service or not, and most things worth watching generally work better if you've authenticated. If you're on the internet, you're being tracked, unless you want to live the Stallman lifestyle. I know you've said you've browsed AtariAge on the 3DS browser, but would you really want to use the AtariBox browser, at TV resolution, from the couch, for streaming video? The Fire TV Cube, out in two days for $120, seems like a smarter option, assuming your TV doesn't have everything you want already built in. It plays games, too! "Atari's" latest comment storm is all about how their "legendary" Fuji logo is the best brand mascot they could have, "so we always lead with that." I expect we'll see a lot more milking of that over the next week or so while the campaign wraps up. I wonder if they could sell an "Atari TV" with a woodgrain case to appeal to the same crowd as the VCS backers? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBerel Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 When they say, "we have only just begun," I hear "the check is in the mail." I wonder when their honeymoon period with the backers is up? Of course, those of us watching at home were screaming not to get into that van in the first place, but ... Hey, when they wake up on the side of the road with their knickers on backwards, and they're hitchin' a ride whining and crying, don't expect me to pick them up. Darwin rules apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaysWithWolves Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 There's been more than one post today I wasn't sure if satire or serious. Anyway, I deleted all my XB1 apps and freed up ~500MB (of 1TB), reclaimed my privacy, and ordered a nice hair shirt to wear while streaming. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 There's been more than one post today I wasn't sure if satire or serious. Anyway, I deleted all my XB1 apps and freed up ~500MB (of 1TB), reclaimed my privacy, and ordered a nice hair shirt to wear while streaming. For the numerically challenged: 1TB is 1000GB, and 500MB is 0.5 GB, which is a rounding error on a drive of this size, even if the formatted space is smaller than 1TB. It's possible that storage space will be an issue on AtariBox, if they stick to the 32GB spec they have quoted for cost purposes. Remember, of course, that a 1TB Xbox One S costs $239, same as the AtariBox, except available today. There are 1,573 available games for the Xbox One. AtariBox has announced exactly two for sure: Atari Vault (available everywhere else) and Tempest 4000 (coming everywhere else, soon). Atari says "we are not trying to compete with Xbox, we are doing their own thing." I'm not sure exactly what it is they're doing, but this is clear enough ... 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Stamos Mullet Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 This thing is being spammed to hell all over Facebook and Twitter now. It's ridiculous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColecoJoe Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 This thing is being spammed to hell all over Facebook and Twitter now. It's ridiculous! Gotta love my add blockers. I don't see any Atari VCS on Facebook or Youtube unless I'm actually looking for it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVgaTv Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 This thing is being spammed to hell all over Facebook and Twitter now. It's ridiculous! And google adwords and youtube. Literally every single ad I've encountered over the last couple of weeks has been for this campaign. They are easily spending tens of thousands on ads, if not venturing into the 6 figures (adwords ain't cheap) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 That's because you guys look for Atari stuff all the time. Normal people aren't getting targeted in this way. I visit their campaign site every day for juicy-dumb quotes to share here, and I haven't seen any marketing for it. Yay for adblock. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+GoldLeader Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 I have Adblock but only on one PC and not on my Netbook, which I also use (casually)... I'm a proud Hater and yet (Not remembering on which machine) I am Definitely seeing ads for this thing all over! Maybe I'll make it a point in the future to see if they're getting through my adblocker or if I'm only seeing them on my Netbook... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 all together now 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari PAC-MAN Fan Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 For the numerically challenged: 1TB is 1000GB, and 500MB is 0.5 GB, which is a rounding error on a drive of this size, even if the formatted space is smaller than 1TB. video apps.png It's possible that storage space will be an issue on AtariBox, if they stick to the 32GB spec they have quoted for cost purposes. ataribox storage.png Remember, of course, that a 1TB Xbox One S costs $239, same as the AtariBox, except available today. There are 1,573 available games for the Xbox One. AtariBox has announced exactly two for sure: Atari Vault (available everywhere else) and Tempest 4000 (coming everywhere else, soon). Atari says "we are not trying to compete with Xbox, we are doing their own thing." graph.jpg ya think.png I'm not sure exactly what it is they're doing, but this is clear enough ... no refunds after the campaign.png If it’s not meant to compete with the other consoles, who is the target audience? Just some people who remember Atari that want to relive their youth? Isn’t that what emulators are for? Just what exactly are they trying to accomplish with this stupid project? 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racerx Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 If it’s not meant to compete with the other consoles, who is the target audience? Just some people who remember Atari that want to relive their youth? Isn’t that what emulators are for? Just what exactly are they trying to accomplish with this stupid project? That's pretty much the crux of this entire monster thread. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacman000 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 On a desktop browser Hooked to a television Navigated with a game controller (or voice) For three hundred dollars In a year, maybe Sounds great #atari, can't wait to play! Granted, I've never tried to use a web browser through my TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 For the numerically challenged: 1TB is 1000GB, and 500MB is 0.5 GB, which is a rounding error on a drive of this size, even if the formatted space is smaller than 1TB. I was kind of expecting one more pie chart, how those 500 MB relates to a storage capacity of 32 GB. While it will be a visible chunk, few modern console games would be possible to fit within those extra 500 MB anyway, unless of course Atari VCS games are significantly smaller than other games. Perhaps a bit more space for user profiles and game saves if you skip the streaming apps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 I was kind of expecting one more pie chart, how those 500 MB relates to a storage capacity of 32 GB. While it will be a visible chunk, few modern console games would be possible to fit within those extra 500 MB anyway, unless of course Atari VCS games are significantly smaller than other games. Perhaps a bit more space for user profiles and game saves if you skip the streaming apps. Not to worry. There won't be enough AtariBox specific software to fill it up, and the target audience isn't going to take it out of the box. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+frankodragon Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 It's always been about tacos since page 115 of this thread when it started. Still they do taste better than plastically substance. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVgaTv Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 If it’s not meant to compete with the other consoles, who is the target audience? Just some people who remember Atari that want to relive their youth? Isn’t that what emulators are for? Just what exactly are they trying to accomplish with this stupid project? Atari in a nutshell: We want to create an all in one modern device that totally doesn't compete with the modern consoles even though it costs just as much if not more than a modern console and it can totally play brand new modern games that are being released on current systems but that's just a bonus since we aren't competing with the modern systems. And anything that contradicts what we just said is fake news generated by haters who don't understand the Atari brand. Now who wants to invest in our gay dating app? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariLeaf Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 What are the chances that as more info comes out about how bad this thing may actually turn out to be (or not be) that the backers start demanding refunds before the campaign ends and the refund window closes? Could we see that 3 million trickle back to almost nothing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari PAC-MAN Fan Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 (edited) Not to worry. There won't be enough AtariBox specific software to fill it up, and the target audience isn't going to take it out of the box. That new profile pic tho....... Love it! Edited June 19, 2018 by Atari PAC-MAN Fan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainbowCemetery Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 if we're taking bets again i'm going to guess no new info before the campaign closes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nathan Strum Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Do we want to discuss how AtariVCS won't have streaming apps, but rather all streaming will be done through the browser? Netflix moms are not gonna be happy. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nathan Strum Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 There's only one whistle. Backers are not gonna be happy. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 (edited) Most Lemonade stands have lemonade Did you say Lemonade? Wednesday and Pugsley have some to sell! Edited June 20, 2018 by Pink 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 What are the chances that as more info comes out about how bad this thing may actually turn out to be (or not be) that the backers start demanding refunds before the campaign ends and the refund window closes? Could we see that 3 million trickle back to almost nothing? I will never understand the minds of someone who backed this in the first place, such a person is obviously wired differently from me. There appear to be a few glimmers of what I would call sanity, though. There are a lot more anonymous $406 pledges from around the same time, though. Will they turn around in the end? They can, but there are only 10 days left to do so. I doubt they'll ALL quit. I expect a lot more promises of "just you wait!" and "the haters are gonna wish they had signed up at the beginning" rhetoric from the person answering campaign questions. It'll be fun if they get all breathless and desperate for people to stay, or pissy at the "professional YouTube" videos. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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