8Bitjunkie Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Interesting thing with AMD, they released their financial earnings for last year sometime ago and Atari is listed in there (under the AtariBox name): http://ir.amd.com/news-releases/news-release-details/amd-reports-third-quarter-2017-financial-results-0 Seems obvious to me this isn't a scam after all, like many claimed. uh, uh, "Ataridisclosed that a customized AMD processor featuring Radeon™ graphics technology will power the upcoming Ataribox game console, which is targeted for global launch in spring 2018." Spring 2018... time is runing... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColecoJoe Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Also, when you claim you have the money to fund the project and still go to crowdfunding .. well something smells rotten in that taco 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColecoJoe Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Is this a new interview or the audio to that awful google hangouts on Youtube? https://vcstalk.com/index.php/topic,13.0.html%EF%BB%BF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lodmot Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 You never get charged for pre-orders until they ship. It's not a pre-order. True, but they also wanted to get the community involved in the development process. Nothing here is screaming "scam" at me yet, so if there's any other solid proof that backers are being scammed, please let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lodmot Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Also, when you claim you have the money to fund the project and still go to crowdfunding .. well something smells rotten in that taco Perhaps... But again, these are all "feelings" and speculation that you have. It's not solid hard proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 THEY LIVE! 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColecoJoe Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Perhaps... But again, these are all "feelings" and speculation that you have. It's not solid hard proof. And all you have is hope That's a terrible way to manage your money! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamus Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Perhaps... But again, these are all "feelings" and speculation that you have. It's not solid hard proof. I think I trust Curt Vendel's information (who is a legend around here) more than some random internet numpty. If you were sent in to do damage control, I think "Atari" should ask for their money back. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamus Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 THEY LIVE! Screen Shot 2018-06-26 at 1.14.55 PM.png Why do I get the feeling the update is going to come after the campaign closes? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaysWithWolves Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Good luck getting a refund on that "pre-order" after the campaign ends. It only took a lawsuit to get a Spectrum Vega+ refund. THEY LIVE! Screen Shot 2018-06-26 at 1.14.55 PM.png They want that steep upturn in donations that Backerkit keeps predicting!Maybe they'll offer special Atari VCS editions, like: 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lodmot Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 And all you have is hope That's a terrible way to manage your money! Perhaps, but I'm also doing my utmost to research the situation at hand. I have a feeling many people don't care to look into this seriously because, like I said, it's Atari we're talking about here. The Register article was based on an interview that happened months ago, and a new interview was conducted with Michael Arzt where he actually said a lot more about the project. He even mentioned that Nolan Bushnell was cool with the project (though again, that's something that Michael said, so it's more-so anecdotal evidence at this point). Best thing we can really do is analyze everything that's happening right now and go with what we can see, and do the best not to make assumptions about anything. Also, Atari seems to have posted a reply on the Indiegogo page before the campaign ended, which is AWESOME! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom_of_Krankor Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 THEY LIVE! Screen Shot 2018-06-26 at 1.14.55 PM.png "We're working on fabricating another lie instead of a console, stay tuned!" 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColecoJoe Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Perhaps, but I'm also doing my utmost to research the situation at hand. Sounds like your research skills are lacking 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godslabrat Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 How does one "work on" an update? You whip out your phone, type a few lines, and it's out there. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Best thing we can really do is analyze everything that's happening right now and go with what we can see, and do the best not to make assumptions about anything. Also, Atari seems to have posted a reply on the Indiegogo page before the campaign ended, which is AWESOME! Your expectations don't seem to be terribly high. You (and a few thousand others) are fine with commodity hardware, an open-source OS, a price above the market value, no software ecosystem, a year of waiting, and poor communication from the people taking the money, just so long as it says "ATARI" on the box. Did I forget anything? Oh, and "not yet proven to be a scam," there's that. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaysWithWolves Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 How does one "work on" an update? You whip out your phone, type a few lines, and it's out there. They have to word it carefully when they release the remaining ~400 numbered Classic Editions for "pre-sale". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lodmot Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 (edited) Sounds like your research skills are lacking Not really. Lol. I've been closely analyzing the gameplay footage on YouTube, and last night I figured out that Atari's modern controller has a strikingly similar design to PowerA's other controllers: Edited June 26, 2018 by Lodmot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 How does one "work on" an update? You whip out your phone, type a few lines, and it's out there. Oh, there's a lot more to it than that. For live video, they have to make certain the xbox/PC is out of the shot. For composite shots, they must have an unobstructed place to paste overlay videos. The community in this thread has helped them with that. For text, they need to find some weird pseudo-slang like "bomb-diggity" coupled with old-people idioms like "bells and whistles," as well as appropriate insults for anyone who dares question their marketing spiel. I hope we get some greengrocer's apostrophes and intelligence-insulting catchphrases like "keep the faith." And finally, some catch phrases for their muppets to repeat. "We answered all the questions we could, but we need to keep some surprises for later! Those who waited to pledge will be sorry." 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lodmot Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 (edited) Your expectations don't seem to be terribly high. You (and a few thousand others) are fine with commodity hardware, an open-source OS, a price above the market value, no software ecosystem, a year of waiting, and poor communication from the people taking the money, just so long as it says "ATARI" on the box. Did I forget anything? Oh, and "not yet proven to be a scam," there's that. Lol. I'm not really sure where you got an estimate of my expectations based on that post, but okay. Also I like how everyone was like, "Atari is waiting until after the campaign is over to say something," etc. Edited June 26, 2018 by Lodmot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj_convoy Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 The Register article was based on an interview that happened months ago Probably not much point in getting into this, but yes. The interview was months ago. What made it newsworthy again was Atari saying that they (the Register) must be trolls because the interview didn't happen that way, and the Register proved that it did. It was months ago, absolutely; Atari shined a spotlight it a few days ago, and it bit them in the ass. Atari lied for no real good reason. If they are willing to lie about something so small, why would that give you any confidence on the big things? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racerx Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 How does one "work on" an update? You whip out your phone, type a few lines, and it's out there. Posting an update is a lot like a rocket launch... 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lodmot Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Probably not much point in getting into this, but yes. The interview was months ago. What made it newsworthy again was Atari saying that they (the Register) must be trolls because the interview didn't happen that way, and the Register proved that it did. It was months ago, absolutely; Atari shined a spotlight it a few days ago, and it bit them in the ass. Atari lied for no real good reason. If they are willing to lie about something so small, why would that give you any confidence on the big things? The Register article misconstrued the interview in a way that makes it look like Atari was hiding something/not answering questions/getting defensive. If you listen to the unedited version of the interview it's clear that the actual vibe from the interview isn't as exaggeratedly bad as the article makes it out to be. But I have a feeling the author knew in his head "Most people aren't gonna listen to the full version of this shit", and put it at the bottom of the page. But the best thing for the reader to do is listen to the interview and make their own assessment of what took place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godslabrat Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 The Register article misconstrued the interview in a way that makes it look like Atari was hiding something/not answering questions/getting defensive. If you listen to the unedited version of the interview it's clear that the actual vibe from the interview isn't as exaggeratedly bad as the article makes it out to be. But I have a feeling the author knew in his head "Most people aren't gonna listen to the full version of this shit", and put it at the bottom of the page. But the best thing for the reader to do is listen to the interview and make their own assessment of what took place. And the fact that Atari actually has been hiding things (who the developers are, what games can be expected) and actually has avoided answering questions (why should we buy this thing?) doesn't factor in at all? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Historian Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 THEY LIVE! Screen Shot 2018-06-26 at 1.14.55 PM.png The update… My guess: "Campaign Extended" for 30 days. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamus Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 The Register article misconstrued the interview in a way that makes it look like Atari was hiding something/not answering questions/getting defensive. If you listen to the unedited version of the interview it's clear that the actual vibe from the interview isn't as exaggeratedly bad as the article makes it out to be. But I have a feeling the author knew in his head "Most people aren't gonna listen to the full version of this shit", and put it at the bottom of the page. But the best thing for the reader to do is listen to the interview and make their own assessment of what took place. I don't know what interview you listened to, but that isn't what I got from it at all. The Register misconstrued nothing. Seriously, if this what you have to offer, you're gonna have to up your game. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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