tschak909 #13751 Posted November 13, 2018 it must be a thankless job, being Fred's personal ball washer, and all... -Thom 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Max Ivi #13752 Posted November 13, 2018 Quoted, just in case there was still a couple people taking ol' Max seriously. Quoted, Yes you're right quote, then we'll talk about it also quote: that Atari VCS will sell to more than 1 million console; 0) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flojomojo #13753 Posted November 13, 2018 Quoted, Yes you're right quote, then we'll talk about it also quote: that Atari VCS will sell to more than 1 million console; 0) 12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tschak909 #13754 Posted November 13, 2018 Max Ivi: so, do you use a rag, or your tongue? -Thom 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glazball #13755 Posted November 13, 2018 @The Historian - since you're here and helping Feargal Mac with Gameband, can you give any information about the status of the Gameband? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill Loguidice #13756 Posted November 13, 2018 Quoted, Yes you're right quote, then we'll talk about it also quote: that Atari VCS will sell to more than 1 million console; 0) Genuine question here - can you explain how they'll get anywhere near that number? Assuming this even releases, they'll have a tough time breaking into the six figures in such a competitive market and at the price point they're targeting. If we go by the crowdfunding and not counting the people who kicked in just for the controllers or other lower non-system tiers, they probably barely broke 10,000 units thus far. As with anything, once you get past the true believers and the earliest of adopters, the hard part kicks in. So they're still around 990,000 units or so short of what you think they'll sell. And again, assuming it comes out in spring 2019 (and most likely later), the pricing of the big three and most likely even newer generation of the popular streaming boxes (Apple TV, Amazon, etc.) will be even more aggressively competitive and appealing, both in price and performance. So yeah, I find it a stretch it will get anywhere near the numbers you're talking about. 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Inky #13757 Posted November 13, 2018 Quoted, Yes you're right quote, then we'll talk about it also quote: that Atari VCS will sell to more than 1 million console; 0) 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JBerel #13758 Posted November 13, 2018 And as Curt reminded us, they've already cut and run on the thing before they even released a single unit to crowd funding backers, if they even do that much. Thing is, based on every bit of available evidence and zero conjecture, the best their backers can expect to see, if they're very very lucky at this point, is a mini linux board PC in an atariesque looking plastic box with the $5 atari greatest hits regurgitated once again. If it even makes it that far, the instant it's released, it's unsupported because they've already stated they will spin it off for any future development. They made that clear before the crowdfunder was closed, yet people still threw their money away on it. A fool and his money being what it is. 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Inky #13759 Posted November 13, 2018 I've said it before..With or without the Atari brand, Atariage IS Atari. 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OCAT #13760 Posted November 13, 2018 What people don't think about is that Rich people don't spend their money unless they are sure to get a return, this is why Fred used Other people's money, people who want shiny things. If this was any other product he would have had to go through hoops to get even $1,000,000 to put towards this nonsense, & not having a prototype? This guy is like a watered down version of Eddie Lampert, having fun with free money. Fred has NO ONE to answer to, this is not a real business it is a joke (Indiegogo). Eddie Lampert is funneling money so he can keep sears open longer to collect on rent on the property he owns! he does not care about Sears. The problem is that people have no self control, the power of open market means that if you have a crap product, the market says NO! but for some reason "Coleco Chameleon, Atari F-box just brings out the fans with money in hand... I thought Apple fans were bad but man! Retrogaming fans beat them to it... handing over cash to people who have no track record or even a prototype.. yet will part with hundreds of dollars on a promise. These people need to vote with dollars.. put back the money in your pocket and wait until these clowns answer BASIC QUESTIONS. they should be begging US not US them! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Inky #13761 Posted November 13, 2018 I had to link back to my little encounter with #notmyatari from back in June. http://atariage.com/forums/topic/266480-new-atari-console-that-ataribox/?p=4053071 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hannacek #13762 Posted November 13, 2018 (edited) And as Curt reminded us, they've already cut and run on the thing before they even released a single unit to crowd funding backers, if they even do that much. Thing is, based on every bit of available evidence and zero conjecture, the best their backers can expect to see, if they're very very lucky at this point, is a mini linux board PC in an atariesque looking plastic box with the $5 atari greatest hits regurgitated once again. If it even makes it that far, the instant it's released, it's unsupported because they've already stated they will spin it off for any future development. They made that clear before the crowdfunder was closed, yet people still threw their money away on it. A fool and his money being what it is. The console will not have physical media, so 3rd party, or any party support is everything. Without something like an App Store or Google store, this just becomes a very expensive Raspberry Pi where you are on your own to find games. At least there is a thriving Raspberry Pi community, so you can share games and software and other stuff to put on your Raspberry Pi. Any thing you want to do with the Pi has probably already been done, and you can find out how to do it from the community. But, without support and a really great store, the Atari VCS Box just becomes a more powerful OUYA with nothing to do on it. Edited November 13, 2018 by Hannacek Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JBerel #13763 Posted November 13, 2018 But, don't forget......it's OPEN. As in: You're on your own. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flojomojo #13764 Posted November 13, 2018 Without something like an App Store or Google store, this just becomes a very expensive Raspberry Pi where you are on your own to find games. At least there is a thriving Raspberry Pi community, so you can share games and software and other stuff to put on your Raspberry Pi. Any thing you want to do with the Pi has probably already been done, and you can find out how to do it from the community. But, without support and a really great store, the Atari VCS Box just becomes a more powerful OUYA with nothing to do on it. It should run Steam and GOG in the user partition. Just like any other, better PC you can buy yourself, right now. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
carlsson #13765 Posted November 13, 2018 I wonder about Biff's jungle game. Wasn't it already dismissed by Atari, or are they starting to hook up rejected developers in order to have anything to provide if the system even gets made? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JBerel #13766 Posted November 13, 2018 Biff will sell a million units! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Max Ivi #13767 Posted November 13, 2018 Max Ivi: so, do you use a rag, or your tongue? -Thom my English is as good as your French, google translation Max Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Max Ivi #13768 Posted November 13, 2018 lol lol excellent ;0) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ColecoJoe #13769 Posted November 13, 2018 Max Ivi: so, do you use a rag, or your tongue? -Thom my English is as good as your French, google translation Max So Tongue ... got it! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Max Ivi #13770 Posted November 13, 2018 Genuine question here - can you explain how they'll get anywhere near that number? Assuming this even releases, they'll have a tough time breaking into the six figures in such a competitive market and at the price point they're targeting. If we go by the crowdfunding and not counting the people who kicked in just for the controllers or other lower non-system tiers, they probably barely broke 10,000 units thus far. As with anything, once you get past the true believers and the earliest of adopters, the hard part kicks in. So they're still around 990,000 units or so short of what you think they'll sell. And again, assuming it comes out in spring 2019 (and most likely later), the pricing of the big three and most likely even newer generation of the popular streaming boxes (Apple TV, Amazon, etc.) will be even more aggressively competitive and appealing, both in price and performance. So yeah, I find it a stretch it will get anywhere near the numbers you're talking about. hello Bill, not the first time we talk together for the 1 million I explain myself : Atari is just the brand behind this console the console will be a platform of a new generation she is not trying to compete with the bigger ones, but to do something different for the moment apart from the look, we have absolutely nothing on this console we will have surprises, nice surprises but as everyone I am impatient and I am disappointed with the lack of communication for this project wait and hope for news before Christmas 2018 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JBerel #13771 Posted November 13, 2018 Max on Atari today..... Max on Atari when reality sets in.... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ColecoJoe #13772 Posted November 13, 2018 Max on Atari today..... Max on Atari when reality sets in.... Weren't cartoons awesome back in the day. I suppose you wouldn't see a suicide attempt on a modern day cartoon these days? 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flojomojo #13773 Posted November 13, 2018 Piffle. Linux is not new, computers less so. Name a single innovative thing on offer by this thing that isn't done elsewhere, right now, better, cheaper. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtariLeaf #13774 Posted November 13, 2018 hello Bill, not the first time we talk together for the 1 million I explain myself : Atari is just the brand behind this console the console will be a platform of a new generation she is not trying to compete with the bigger ones, but to do something different for the moment apart from the look, we have absolutely nothing on this console we will have surprises, nice surprises but as everyone I am impatient and I am disappointed with the lack of communication for this project wait and hope for news before Christmas 2018 I'm not sure what your first language is, but whatever it is, how do you say "gullible"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Max Ivi #13775 Posted November 13, 2018 I'm not sure what your first language is, but whatever it is, how do you say "gullible"? hum do not judge me, because you do not know me Merci ;0) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites