Lodmot Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 That James Joseph Sullivan guy rubs me the wrong way. = 3 =; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 That James Joseph Sullivan guy rubs me the wrong way. = 3 =; Yeah, his use of "silent majority" has Nixonian overtones, and his notion that Amazon, IBM, or Apple would be interested in any of this amateur hour nonsense is pure piffle. He's not someone who is living in the real world. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lodmot Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Yeah, his use of "silent majority" has Nixonian overtones, and his notion that Amazon, IBM, or Apple would be interested in any of this amateur hour nonsense is pure piffle. He's not someone who is living in the real world. Lol, he mentioned IBM? They aren't even an actual gaming company. xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Lol, he mentioned IBM? They aren't even an actual gaming company. xD But to someone who hasn't paid attention to reality since 1993, there's this, "Manufactured in the USA by IBM®." 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+frankodragon Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 That James Joseph Sullivan guy rubs me the wrong way. = 3 =; Sullivan reminds me of this YouTube video: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacman000 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 (edited) If Atari SA was willing to sign a $500 million dollar contract almost anyone would be willing to manufacture their new system. Also, "digital interface ports?" Does that mean the Jaguar can do HDMI? Edited February 5, 2019 by pacman000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColecoJoe Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 If Atari SA was willing to sign a $500 million dollar contract almost anyone would be willing to manufacture their new system. I smell a new IGG campaign brewing. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacman000 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 That's still probably only half of what someone would need to actually launch a console. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColecoJoe Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 That's still probably only half of what someone would need to actually launch a console. Nonsense, all they need is 3 million 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariNerd Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Gaining the auspices of IBM as a manufacturer, was probably one of Atari's better decisions at the time, along with the thriftiness of using recycled material (remember when that was a selling point touted? and the notion of it being "home-grown" ?) playing on two names that hadn't been on the public consciousness for awhile, but instead of reinvigorating two brands, the ineptness of the rest of the marketing strategy, the lack of investments in gaming partnerships, wound up scuttling two brands. Well, IBM, as a trade-marked name (are they still around in that fashion?), but maybe not as a manufacturer ((though, a mini of their flag0ship '81 PC, with DOS or a newer OS, might have charm and sell a few units)) might still have a chance, as people will have forgotten the connection and as for their part of that partnership, they were technically successful, though they probably lost their starched white shirts over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lodmot Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 But to someone who hasn't paid attention to reality since 1993, there's this, "Manufactured in the USA by IBM®." jagBoxBack.jpg Lol, didn't know about that. o u o That's interesting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+frankodragon Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 If only I had room on my model layout for one of these. I probably would change the name to some generic Taco name. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lodmot Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Dude I looked up more info about that motel, and it looks so cool xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacman000 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Nonsense, all they need is 3 million Need to successfully launch a console. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacman000 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Gaining the auspices of IBM as a manufacturer, was probably one of Atari's better decisions at the time, along with the thriftiness of using recycled material (remember when that was a selling point touted? and the notion of it being "home-grown" ?) playing on two names that hadn't been on the public consciousness for awhile, but instead of reinvigorating two brands, the ineptness of the rest of the marketing strategy, the lack of investments in gaming partnerships, wound up scuttling two brands. Well, IBM, as a trade-marked name (are they still around in that fashion?), but maybe not as a manufacturer ((though, a mini of their flag0ship '81 PC, with DOS or a newer OS, might have charm and sell a few units)) might still have a chance, as people will have forgotten the connection and as for their part of that partnership, they were technically successful, though they probably lost their starched white shirts over it. IBM's still around, tho they sold their PC division to Leveno. Today IBM focuses on BIG computers, servers & the like. I remember "IBM-Compatible" still being a by-word in 1996-1999, so IBM's brand wasn't really weak; the clones were just a better deal for most people. (Lower price, same software.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Disagree -- IBM isn't focused on "BIG computers, servers & the like" so much as software, services, cloud, and consulting. Like Microsoft, but even less about the hardware these days. Think data management, artificial intelligence and business processes, NOT boxes of any sort, and about as far from game consoles as a company can get. You'd be hard-pressed to find a consumer-facing piece of IBM-branded technology anywhere on their page. They're working in the background. https://www.ibm.com Needless to say, "Atari" isn't getting back into bed with IBM anytime soon. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom_of_Krankor Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 I don't recall seeing any IBM servers in any of the data centers I frequent. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+x=usr(1536) Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 I don't recall seeing any IBM servers in any of the data centers I frequent. Same. They definitely have a presence in supercomputing, but even their mainframe offerings (such as AS/400) are moving into the cloud. They're a services company these days; the silicon underpinning that is abstracted from the customer. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetick1 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 (edited) Disagree -- IBM isn't focused on "BIG computers, servers & the like" so much as software, services, cloud, and consulting. Like Microsoft, but even less about the hardware these days. Think data management, artificial intelligence and business processes, NOT boxes of any sort, and about as far from game consoles as a company can get. You'd be hard-pressed to find a consumer-facing piece of IBM-branded technology anywhere on their page. They're working in the background. https://www.ibm.com Needless to say, "Atari" isn't getting back into bed with IBM anytime soon. There is one consumer-facing business. IBM bought the Weather Channel and have been the underlying technology of weather prediction since the 1960's. IBM is still a $80 billion dollar revenue company. Only a few billion on hardware box sales these days as most revenue is software and services as you highlighted. I would not call IBM far from gaming as a company can get. All the POWER/PowerPC processors used in POWER/PowerPC designed gaming systems (Pippen, M2, GameCube, Wii, Wii U, PS 2, Xbox 360) were all done by IBM hardware teams. I worked on a few of them back in the days. IBM still makes the most powerful hardware in the world .. it is just so damn expensive most industries don't need that power for the astronomical price IBM charges. And as of the last decade the gaming industry no longer needs IBM designs. The last hold out Nintendo used ARM with the Switch which makes far more financial sense. Just look the most recent world's most powerful computers. They are not Intel. In fact IBM designed machines with MILLIONS LESS processor cores that are far more powerful than anything from Intel. IBM Summit has less than half cores of Intel and half the power consumption but is able to deliver 2X the performance. Source: https://www.top500.org/lists/2018/11/ Edited February 6, 2019 by thetick1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 That's a good point about the PPC, I had forgotten how that was everywhere in the past generations. Still, wouldn't you say that role has been assumed by AMD, which powers the silicon in PS4, Xbone, Wii U ...and presumably Ataribox someday? https://www.amd.com/en/products/semi-custom-solutions I didn't know about Weather Channel, that's interesting. They also bought up SAS and SPSS statistical software not so long ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inky Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 The company I work for still uses IBM as/400 systems, plus, up until a few months ago, IBM POS systems 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotterpop Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 IBM also has Watson, the AI software that crushes flesh and blood opponents in Jeopardy! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColecoJoe Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 IBM also has Watson, the AI software that crushes flesh and blood opponents in Jeopardy! So what. Microsoft had Clippy. TOP THAT IBM!!!! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacman000 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Microsoft put Clippy out of our misery a few years ago. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColecoJoe Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Microsoft put Clippy out of our misery a few years ago. This joke is not funny. Can you put more comedy into it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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