MrMaddog #19826 Posted August 14, 2019 3 hours ago, Tickled_Pink said: And let's be honest again - how many of us would be in the "rabid backers" category if the Tramiel-era Atari were still going and were seeking resurrection through a project like this? Oh boy, just what we all need.... ATARI JAGUAR Mini Classic Edition!!! 3 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Nathan Strum #19827 Posted August 15, 2019 1 hour ago, MrMaddog said: Oh boy, just what we all need.... ATARI JAGUAR Mini Classic Edition!!! Mike Kennedy is never gonna fit a mini SNES in that. 2 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
digdugnate #19828 Posted August 15, 2019 the article says '30 Jaguar games'- i guess the old joke is: "there's 30 games worth playing on the Jaguar?" I kid, i kid, don't roast me- there are *some* good games for the Jaguar that I've played. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Nathan Strum #19829 Posted August 15, 2019 1 hour ago, digdugnate said: the article says '30 Jaguar games'- i guess the old joke is: "there's 30 games worth playing on the Jaguar?" Fixed that for you. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cybercylon #19830 Posted August 15, 2019 5 hours ago, KaeruYojimbo said: Let's be careful out there. https://ballparkdigest.com/2019/08/14/man-dies-after-taco-eating-contest-at-chukchansi-park/ That's it for me. Death by taco is a sign. I am grabbing my bathrobe, towel, babel fish, and hitchhiking my way out of here.... 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flojomojo #19831 Posted August 15, 2019 "Jesse Scroggins" takes up the sword to defend the honor of "Atari" with some truly dazzling leaps in logic. Anyone who is blocked must have deserved it, but if "Atari" doesn't show any game footage, it must be do to their compliance with the law. Quote If Atari blocked you Im sure they had a reason. The gameplay footage from E3 has not been released probably because they dont have the rights to the game they used to show the potential of the Atari. They are probably prevented by copyright law to show the game they played at E3. If so, we have to wait on Atari to showcase a game of their own. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JBerel #19832 Posted August 15, 2019 Douche bags like that are why crowd funded euthanasia should be a thing. Hey ya pud-knockin' tool bag, one word for ya.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Inky #19833 Posted August 15, 2019 At this point, I'm saddened that Nolan Bushnell didn't re-acquire the name and properties (I know, he probably couldn't have afforded it, but still...) At BEST he could have made something out of the company. At worst, he's the proper person to kill off the company. 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaggy the Atarian #19834 Posted August 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Flojomojo said: "Jesse Scroggins" takes up the sword to defend the honor of "Atari" with some truly dazzling leaps in logic. Anyone who is blocked must have deserved it, but if "Atari" doesn't show any game footage, it must be do to their compliance with the law. "...probably because they don't have the rights to the game they used to show the potential of the Atari." So does that mean that Atari condones the use of illegal, unlicensed software on their platform? I'm sure that's a selling point that will get developers on-board post haste! 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flojomojo #19835 Posted August 15, 2019 13 minutes ago, Shaggy the Atarian said: "...probably because they don't have the rights to the game they used to show the potential of the Atari." So does that mean that Atari condones the use of illegal, unlicensed software on their platform? I'm sure that's a selling point that will get developers on-board post haste! From Rob Wyatt's job application manifesto: Quote On the technical side the biggest take away from working on other platforms is to openly embrace developers and not enforce sometimes overly-strict usage models by strict APIs. In the spirit of being open, Atari wants the VCS platform to give developers all the freedom they need to be creative. Your solution to a problem doesn’t have to make sense to me, it just has to make sense to you. We’ll support you as much as we can to make sure your solution works. One thing you’ll never hear from us is “Why do you want to do that?” 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
delmero #19836 Posted August 15, 2019 Hi good evening: I know this is a tired question: why Atari doesn't hire a game developer studio to develop new games for the AtacoBox? I mean they have the money of the crowdfunding campaign or not? 🌮 🌮🌮 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Nathan Strum #19837 Posted August 15, 2019 40 minutes ago, delmero said: I know this is a tired question: why Atari doesn't hire a game developer studio to develop new games for the AtacoBox? I mean they have the money of the crowdfunding campaign or not? 🌮 🌮🌮 Snarky answer: Because they don't want to dictate content. (Fred was quoted saying something to that effect, although it's buried here forever lost amongst the tacos now...) Snarkier answer: Because they blew it all on hookers and coke. Probable answer: They lack any sort of creative vision and leadership, and are incapable of giving the necessary guidance to a studio to make a viable, quality game. Actual answer: That sounds suspiciously like work. Work is icky. 8 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+KaeruYojimbo #19838 Posted August 15, 2019 Quote The gameplay footage from E3 has not been released probably because they dont have the rights to the game they used to show the potential of the Atari. They are probably prevented by copyright law to show the game they played at E3 They played Tempest 4000 at E3? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flojomojo #19839 Posted August 15, 2019 3 hours ago, delmero said: Hi good evening: I know this is a tired question: why Atari doesn't hire a game developer studio to develop new games for the AtacoBox? I mean they have the money of the crowdfunding campaign or not? 🌮 🌮🌮 If they had an in-house developer that cranked out good (or at least popular and profitable, which is not always the same thing) games, they wouldn't NEED to bother with distractions like "new consoles." The closest thing they have to a hit is RollerCoaster Tycoon, which they license from someone else, and they have been milking it to death. 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrBeefy #19840 Posted August 16, 2019 1 hour ago, KaeruYojimbo said: They played Tempest 4000 at E3? It hasn't been ported to Linux. If you want to play it install windows and do their sandbox mode. I'm pretty sure they used to say comes with 101 games (vault =100, T4K was the one). Now they only say 100. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+frankodragon #19841 Posted August 16, 2019 Don't forget that "Atari" also likes to use their money for paying lawyers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
delmero #19842 Posted August 16, 2019 3 hours ago, frankodragon said: Don't forget that "Atari" also likes to use their money for paying lawyers. That money spent on lawyers could be used to make excellent games for the AtacoBox or to make a working machine ready to ship, I mean it's tiring to be pulling the whistle cord continuously. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JBerel #19843 Posted August 16, 2019 I bet we'd all be shocked at how much the Atari boneheads ended up paying out to Fergie. $50 would be too much, but I bet you they paid out a sizable percentage of the entire crowdfund take just based on shear incompetence. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flojomojo #19844 Posted August 16, 2019 I don't know how we'd ever know, but I wouldn't be surprised if the lawyers on both sides got more money than Feargal did. Presumably there's more money to be made (and certainly less risk) by licensing out the old stuff than trying to make something new. Or else they'd be doing something different, right? One thing's for certain, the lawyers are busy. Here's everything on pacermonitor for "Atari Interactive" since 1/1/2018. T-shirt peddlers, beware! Atari Interactive, Inc. v. Redbubble, Inc. (5:18-cv-03451) Courts > California Northern District Court Filed: Jun 11, 2018 Judge: Jon S Tigar Nature of Suit: Property Rights - Trademark Cause: 15:1114 Trademark Infringement Parties Matched: Atari Interactive, Inc. Atari Interactive, Inc. v. TP Apparel, LLC et al (3:18-cv-04115) Courts > California Northern District Court Filed: Jul 10, 2018 Judge: Jon S Tigar Nature of Suit: Property Rights - Trademark Cause: 15:1114 Trademark Infringement Parties Matched: Atari Interactive, Inc. Atari Interactive, Inc. v. Zazzle, Inc. (3:18-cv-03843) Courts > California Northern District Court Filed: Jun 27, 2018 Judge: Jon S Tigar Nature of Suit: Property Rights - Trademark Cause: 15:44 Trademark Infringement Parties Matched: Atari Interactive, Inc. Atari Interactive, Inc. v. Zazzle, Inc. (4:18-cv-03843) Courts > California Northern District Court Filed: Jun 27, 2018 Judge: Jon S Tigar Nature of Suit: Property Rights - Trademark Cause: 15:44 Trademark Infringement Parties Matched: Atari Interactive, Inc. Atari Interactive, Inc. v. Redbubble, Inc. (3:18-cv-03451) Courts > California Northern District Court Filed: Jun 11, 2018 Judge: Jon S Tigar Nature of Suit: Property Rights - Trademark Cause: 15:1114 Trademark Infringement Parties Matched: Atari Interactive, Inc. Atari Interactive, Inc. v. SunFrog, LLC (3:18-cv-04949) Courts > California Northern District Court Filed: Aug 15, 2018 Judge: Jon S Tigar Nature of Suit: Property Rights - Trademark Cause: 15:44 Trademark Infringement Parties Matched: Atari Interactive, Inc. Atari Interactive, Inc. v. SunFrog, LLC (4:18-cv-04949) Courts > California Northern District Court Filed: Aug 15, 2018 Judge: Jon S Tigar Nature of Suit: Property Rights - Trademark Cause: 15:44 Trademark Infringement Parties Matched: Atari Interactive, Inc. Atari Interactive, Inc. v. Teespring, Inc. (3:19-cv-00111) Courts > California Northern District Court Filed: Jan 08, 2019 Judge: Jon S Tigar Nature of Suit: Property Rights - Trademark Cause: 15:44 Trademark Infringement Parties Matched: Atari Interactive, Inc. Atari Interactive, Inc. v. Teespring, Inc. (5:19-cv-00111) Courts > California Northern District Court Filed: Jan 08, 2019 Judge: Jon S Tigar Nature of Suit: Property Rights - Trademark Cause: 15:44 Trademark Infringement Parties Matched: Atari Interactive, Inc. Atari Interactive Inc v. Target Corporation (2:18-cv-10735) Courts > California Central District Court Filed: Dec 28, 2018 Judge: Dale S Fischer Nature of Suit: Property Rights - Trademark Cause: 15:1114 Trademark Infringement Parties Matched: Atari Interactive Inc Atari Interactive, Inc. v. Target Corporation (1:19-cv-03111) Courts > New York Southern District Court Filed: Apr 08, 2019 Judge: Lewis A Kaplan Nature of Suit: Property Rights - Trademark Cause: 15:1051 Trademark Infringement Parties Matched: Atari Interactive, Inc. Atari Interactive, Inc. v. Hyperkin Inc. (2:19-cv-00608) Courts > California Central District Court Filed: Jan 25, 2019 Judge: Christina A Snyder Nature of Suit: Property Rights - Trademark Cause: 15:1125 Trademark Infringement (Lanham Act) Parties Matched: Atari Interactive, Inc. Atari Interactive, Inc. v. Ooshirts, Inc. (3:19-cv-00264) Courts > California Northern District Court Filed: Jan 15, 2019 Judge: Jon S Tigar Nature of Suit: Property Rights - Trademark Cause: 15:1114 Trademark Infringement Parties Matched: Atari Interactive, Inc. 5 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PlaysWithWolves #19845 Posted August 16, 2019 59 minutes ago, delmero said: That money spent on lawyers could be used to make excellent games for the AtacoBox or to make a working machine ready to ship, I mean it's tiring to be pulling the whistle cord continuously. If I'm reading things right, the lawyers at least pay for themselves if not bring in money: Quote Other highlights: April 2018: Capital increase of €7.5 million September 2018: Settlement of the Raynal litigation for the "Alone in the Dark" franchise. September 2018: Sale of "Alone in the Dark" and "Act of War" for €735k. December 2018: Receipt of US$1.1 million in the context of a settlement for infringement upon the Atari brand. The Group is moreover pursuing other corporations to assert its intellectual property rights. Well, if Feargal Mac or Reynal or others wouldn't have sued: Quote Other Income and Expenses Other income and expenses amounted to -€0.6 million and corresponded to expenses, net of compensation and legal fees, for various litigations against Atari which have now been resolved. As always, let me know if I missed or misread anything. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+thanatos #19846 Posted August 16, 2019 On 8/14/2019 at 5:44 PM, MrMaddog said: Oh boy, just what we all need.... ATARI JAGUAR Mini Classic Edition!!! Would have been even funnier to me if the specs were: "Comes with Tempest 2000. And that's it." 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flojomojo #19847 Posted August 16, 2019 I'd love to know the breakdown of that -600K, specifically how much went to Feargal. I would think that he would be gagged from disclosing that as part of the settlement. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flojomojo #19848 Posted August 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, thanatos said: Would have been even funnier to me if the specs were: "Comes with Tempest 2000. And that's it." We could do a lot worse than the PC version of Tempest 2000. Whatever happened to that somewhat terrible Mini PC idea? https://unitetechno.com/dt_catalog/pc-classic/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JBerel #19849 Posted August 16, 2019 I suspect they answered that themselves.... Can’t I just buy a Raspberry Pi, an enclosure, gamepad, keyboard, and mouse, 3D print a faceplate, install Armbian, buy 30+ games, build the source for ARM or install/configure in DOSBox for each and every game, create a menu system with game art, and tell everyone about it at parties? No........or yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+frankodragon #19850 Posted August 16, 2019 On 8/14/2019 at 5:44 PM, MrMaddog said: Oh boy, just what we all need.... ATARI JAGUAR Mini Classic Edition!!! "Comes with the familiar burning plastic fumes only in smaller form." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites