New Atari Console that Ataribox?

[Flojomojo]

Is this the aforementioned drunken commentary that's bringing us full circle?

[Keatah]

On the dark side, all this AtariBox news appears to have forced AtariAge off the 1st page of Google for the keyword "Atari."

 

It did? Maybe that's their intent!?! To have the community self-dilute into irrelevancy. Maybe this will help bring it back?

 

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[JBerel]

[TwentySixHundred]

Sorry lad, not to get your panties in knot or anything but this is AA not 4chan... However i concur "only fake people get mad when i say real shit". Rather then a constructive response i get a defeated last ditch effort.. Get the hint go back to where you came from troll

Edited November 10, 2017 by Tony The 2600

[Tempy]

I figure with all this thread activity, there would be actual new news about the Ataribox. I guess I was wrong.

[Keatah]

Well i think they have a chance but with negative skirts slam dunking them before the system even gets a light is a joke. So much for "Atari" fans supporting the brand. Anyone would think they would be happy to see Atari fail just to prove their point and its a desecrace. A site that couldn't care two twats yet they are signed up to the brand because of the 2600 or to troll... Anyone that truly knows the 2600 should have faith that maybe they can pull it off.

 

Like i said how many times did Atari change hands back in the day without anyone caring whatsoever. Yeah just like i thought, no one takes notice yet the trolls

 

Atari Age slamming on an Atari brand what a great look, well done fellas...

 

Everyone has a chance to make great games and consoles. Whether they do or not is a completely different story.

 

Us "Atari" fans aren't interested in supporting fake atari. Most of us likely don't care who new atari is, as long as they are innovative and interesting like the original Atari.

 

Real Atari innovated and sold us real products in a timely fashion. I clearly remember, as a kid, reading about (or watching ads on TV) some new game. And then seeing in the store shortly thereafter for real. Real I tell you for real! Because I could go to the store and actually buy it and bring it home. This isn't happening with ataribox.

 

I think we'd rather support AtariAge because it is more Atari than fake/new atari.

 

Atari changing hands isn't a big deal. The end-structure IS important. The first (and shortly thereafter) Atari incarnations had programmers and engineers, or worked worked very closely with them. This one thing is missing from new atari. What we have here is a bunch of kickstarter marketers. Neither good nor bad, just not real engineering talent like old/real Atari.

 

What Atari changed into isn't to my liking.

 

I truly know the 2600. I know about the hardware and some stuff about the software. And let me tell you something. Present-day atari is incapable of building anything like the 2600.

[bojay1997]

Well i think they have a chance but with negative skirts slam dunking them before the system even gets a light is a joke. So much for "Atari" fans supporting the brand. Anyone would think they would be happy to see Atari fail just to prove their point and its a desecrace. A site that couldn't care two twats yet they are signed up to the brand because of the 2600 or to troll... Anyone that truly knows the 2600 should have faith that maybe they can pull it off.

 

Like i said how many times did Atari change hands back in the day without anyone caring whatsoever. Yeah just like i thought, no one takes notice yet the trolls

 

Atari Age slamming on an Atari brand what a great look, well done fellas...

Atari changed ownership several times, but the difference was that there was a through line in that in each of the iterations, it was a real, functioning company with programmers, engineers and actual consumer products that were available at retail. What you are doing is essentially equating a company that has certain IP rights in connection with the Atari name, logo and a limited amount of back catalog and has created nothing that anyone here is nostalgic about with older iterations of the company that actually released products that many of us used and enjoyed over the years. Just because many of us are fans of certain Atari products or the brand doesn't mean that we have some obligation to support every company that seeks to capitalize on our nostalgia and happens to have purchased the IP. Atari earned the loyalty and admiration of many of us by actually releasing fun and innovative products over the years. The new "Atari" hasn't done anything yet and leading with a crappy looking hat with built-in speakers and a crowdfunded watch that hasn't shipped yet isn't the kind of thing that screams good intentions and reserve judgment to me.

 

You are way out of line and you have no right to demand that anyone here pledge loyalty to the new Atari nor is your tone appropriate for a discussion forum. If you are unable to discuss things in a rational manner, then perhaps you are the one who needs to take it elsewhere because everyone here was discussing this proposed product in a reasonable and appropriate manner long before you dropped in with your criticism and attacks of long time, respected forum members.

[CPUWIZ]

Do I need to pull out the stick?

[TwentySixHundred]

 

Everyone has a chance to make great games and consoles. Whether they do or not is a completely different story.

 

Us "Atari" fans aren't interested in supporting fake atari. Most of us likely don't care who new atari is, as long as they are innovative and interesting like the original Atari.

 

Real Atari innovated and sold us real products in a timely fashion. I clearly remember, as a kid, reading about (or watching ads on TV) some new game. And then seeing in the store shortly thereafter for real. Real I tell you for real! Because I could go to the store and actually buy it and bring it home. This isn't happening with ataribox.

 

I think we'd rather support AtariAge because it is more Atari than fake/new atari.

 

Atari changing hands isn't a big deal. The end-structure IS important. The first (and shortly thereafter) Atari incarnations had programmers and engineers, or worked worked very closely with them. This one thing is missing from new atari. What we have here is a bunch of kickstarter marketers. Neither good nor bad, just not real engineering talent like old/real Atari.

 

What Atari changed into isn't to my liking.

 

I truly know the 2600. I know about the hardware and some stuff about the software. And let me tell you something. Present-day atari is incapable of building anything like the 2600.

So when Warner took over Atari was the "real" Atari? Lets sum it up, everyone here seams to either living nostalgia that in reality is complete nonsense as the company changed more hands the a Saturday night hooker. Lets stop kidding everyone and get our knowledge up first, that's the problem the ill informed are feeding the trolls. Serious start waking up people the beloved brand 'technically' lasted two bloody years not the 7+ people think... i really think you all have no idea what the difference is; what does the change of hand in 1982 compared to 2017 differ really? Exactly, Atari was like a Saturday night whore back in the day and hasn't changed. Delusional people acting like it's changed or something... Big fans aye?!

Edited November 10, 2017 by Tony The 2600

[TwentySixHundred]

Atari changed ownership several times, but the difference was that there was a through line in that in each of the iterations, it was a real, functioning company with programmers, engineers and actual consumer products that were available at retail. What you are doing is essentially equating a company that has certain IP rights in connection with the Atari name, logo and a limited amount of back catalog and has created nothing that anyone here is nostalgic about with older iterations of the company that actually released products that many of us used and enjoyed over the years. Just because many of us are fans of certain Atari products or the brand doesn't mean that we have some obligation to support every company that seeks to capitalize on our nostalgia and happens to have purchased the IP. Atari earned the loyalty and admiration of many of us by actually releasing fun and innovative products over the years. The new "Atari" hasn't done anything yet and leading with a crappy looking hat with built-in speakers and a crowdfunded watch that hasn't shipped yet isn't the kind of thing that screams good intentions and reserve judgment to me.

 

You are way out of line and you have no right to demand that anyone here pledge loyalty to the new Atari nor is your tone appropriate for a discussion forum. If you are unable to discuss things in a rational manner, then perhaps you are the one who needs to take it elsewhere because everyone here was discussing this proposed product in a reasonable and appropriate manner long before you dropped in with your criticism and attacks of long time, respected forum members.

Yeah cool story im not buying it though..

 

Edit: hang on, you say im irrational? Dreaming much? There is a difference from blunt and straight out trolls! Wake up, if you can't see the bullying towards others previously, you're blind. Many just gave up from the onslaught like im receiving now. Funny thing is anyone with a neutral outlook can clearly see im not out of line but rather voicing an option on behalf of others, and you may not like it. Hence the reason no admin has contacted me even though i know people have reported..

 

It's not all one sided "oh i hate the system blah blah blah" maybe some of us would like to see the system succeed rather then those hoping it will fail. Also how can you give some credit to some newly signed up troll solely on the one topic. The fact is the admins can see exactly what they are doing and the approach.

 

Tell me im wrong you're dreaming, the difference is im a man and will explain my reason to an Admin if need be. I actually have a set and speaking on the behalf of those who say nothing because the "click" will shut them down. Hate me i don't care, it's no loss. It's called being an responsible adult and growing up...

Edited November 10, 2017 by Tony The 2600

[leech]

Bill said

"Are there lots of people who really want (or need) another mini-golf game or another update of Pitfall!? Are the reasons these games are ignored on the saturated platforms really just because they get lost in the shuffle or is it that they're not necessarily all that interesting (and I'm speaking in generalities here, since I don't know the titles in question). I don't know?"

 

 

Do we need another Mario Game or Zelda or Pokemon or Grand theft auto? Do we need another Star Wars film or Indiana Jones or James Bond??????????? Did you know one of the GTA games on day 1 makes more money in sales than any film has even in it's first week? The fact is people like familiarity. They want sequels. They want more. So yes, if you like mini-golf you'd get one on your Android phone or PlayStation. There's a reason why there are 50 different checkers games or 20 different Spades games on Android. And you know what, the Spades game I play on my Android phone (SPades Plus I think it is) makes a heck of a lot of money than any of you reading this makes.

Give me Pitfall VR, and I'll buy it.

[Keatah]

I simply have not seen anything cool come from atari since the name became an IP/brand/holding company. How can it when (for the past ~20 years) they lack the creativity, the talent, the engineering, the programming..?

 

Now I'm seeing a bunch of noise about something called ataribox? I think we need atarcarton to hold all the bullshit. Box ain't big enough.

[JBerel]

Tony, respectfully, nobody is bullying anyone. At worst a little light-natured ribbing. You're not receiving an onslaught, and no one asked you to defend them. If anything, you're serving up everything you're complaining about with thinly veiled threats, belittling comments, and hurtling your manhood and self aggrandized legitimacy as a public forum member on everyone. Yours is the only commentary I've seen that's been truly disrespectful of the group and other's opinions, leaving no room for rational discussion. As such I say good day sir.

[leech]

Holy crap, a few pages of comments since yesterday, had to skip some...

 

If we want to get down to the grass of what made Atari great, it wasn't the name, it was the people. With the death of Jay Miner, it could easily be argued that the 'Real' Atari died. After all, he was the head engineer for both the 2600 and the 8-bit line. He then went on to make the Amiga chipset, so did real Atari die with Commodore, which is.. well they're more like a zombie than a ghost that lingers. They die, then someone gets the right to use the name, then they die off (sometimes literally!). Then there is the separate Amiga Inc...

 

Both of these once great companies have been dragged through the mud and have become this overly complicated bull crap. So who knows, today we have talks about Ataribox (not sure why the earlier comment about calling it the Lightwave came from, since that was the software that ran the Video Toaster for the Amiga.) maybe some day we'll have the AmigaBox?

 

Either concept is just as silly. If they can pull off a $300 Linux based console that is open and small, I'll buy one. I still want to know that it's not a $300 Raspberry Pi in a custom case though! ARM does not make a good Linux based gaming console...

 

I'm not sure why developers would CHOOSE to do exclusive titles, by the way. More platforms covered, the more sales, right? Jeff Minter said his exclusivity deal with Polybius was timed and that he'd release a PC version of it in XX months, so there is that. I don't know why Atari would lock out Linux based games either. I mean part of their pitch to sell the hardware and splash the Fuji in your face everywhere would be to have a large library of games already there.

 

If I were head of Atari I would probably have done something similar. One thing I would do differently though... GET INVESTORS, not have the internet fund my project...

[leech]

I simply have not seen anything cool come from atari since the name became an IP/brand/holding company. How can it when (for the past ~20 years) they lack the creativity, the talent, the engineering, the programming..?

 

Now I'm seeing a bunch of noise about something called ataribox? I think we need atarcarton to hold all the bullshit. Box ain't big enough.

Yeah, the 'Death' of Atari was when they merged with JTS and canned all of their employees. It's the people that make the company, not the company that make the people.

[CPUWIZ]

im a man

 

No, you are all a bunch of kids, arguing over a non-existing product. And I have to read the reports, so thanks for wasting my time.

[TwentySixHundred]

Tony, respectfully, nobody is bullying anyone. At worst a little light-natured ribbing. You're not receiving an onslaught, and no one asked you to defend them. If anything, you're serving up everything you're complaining about with thinly veiled threats, belittling comments, and hurtling your manhood and self aggrandized legitimacy as a public forum member on everyone. Yours is the only commentary I've seen that's been truly disrespectful of the group and other's opinions, leaving no room for rational discussion. As such I say good day sir.

Well all due respect i felt others were bullied out their opinions and i don't like that sort of activity. What's worse is those who google the Ataribox get reverted to a page of those mocking the brand, sad part is out of all forums it's an official Atari forum. As an long term Atari member i find that a horrible look, especially to those inquiring about a system never released. This is AA and people a drilling this project into the ground before it's even caught it's feet.

 

Yeah i will attack back with an cutthroat approach because after reading through the tread, people have just fallen out thinking it's a no win battle rather then constructive debate. I mean should we all put our hands up and say "you win the Ataribox is a POS even though we really don't know?". See what im saying? It's a little intimidating to those wanting this project to succeed and no one should have to feel they can't explain their thoughts.

Edited November 10, 2017 by Tony The 2600

[TwentySixHundred]

 

No, you are all a bunch of kids, arguing over a non-existing product. And I have to read the reports, so thanks for wasting my time.

Never wasted time you just quoted what i have been arguing, common mate you should know better. After all we are all over 30 right?

[Rhindle the Dragon]

 

No, you are all a bunch of kids, arguing over a non-existing product. And I have to read the reports, so thanks for wasting my time.

 

"It is important to speak softly and carry a big stick when moderating online discussions."

-- Otto von Bismarck, 1876

[Rhindle the Dragon]

After all we are all over 30 right?

 

I'm 20.

[OldSchoolRetroGamer]

Please remember that "Ataribox" is not EVEN the current "Atari"

 

http://www.wired.co.uk/article/atari-box-console-2017-specs

 

"The Atari that’s making the Ataribox has almost nothing to do with the company whose name it goes by. The three Atari companies, which all filed for bankruptcy in January 2013, re-emerged one year later under the stewardship of French financial consultant Frédéric Chesnais. As of March 2014, Atari had ten employees. Atari Interactive, the company making this console, is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Atari, SA. a French holding company headquartered in Paris, which also owns Atari, Inc."

[dj_convoy]

It's like reliving the Facebook debacle under the cruel dictatorship of North Coleco . Fun times.

 

Time to bust out the Hater Brigade badges.

[+Nathan Strum]

Well i think they have a chance but with negative skirts slam dunking them before the system even gets a light is a joke. So much for "Atari" fans supporting the brand. Anyone would think they would be happy to see Atari fail just to prove their point and its a desecrace. A site that couldn't care two twats yet they are signed up to the brand because of the 2600 or to troll... Anyone that truly knows the 2600 should have faith that maybe they can pull it off.

 

Like i said how many times did Atari change hands back in the day without anyone caring whatsoever. Yeah just like i thought, no one takes notice yet the trolls

 

Atari Age slamming on an Atari brand what a great look, well done fellas...

 

I'm a fan of the Atari that created videogames in the 70's and (early) 80's.

 

This isn't that "Atari".

 

You can be a fan of "Star Trek", but not like the J.J. Abrams movies.

 

You can be a fan of "James Bond", but not like the Daniel Craig movies.

 

You can be a fan of "Coleco", but not like the copyright trolls who own the brand now.

 

Atari fans aren't obligated to be fans of everything Atari-related.

 

The current owners of the Atari name have yet to produce anything that makes me believe they have the ability to pull this off. There are more than enough failed consoles out there to point to this being an uphill battle in the best of circumstances.

 

If people want to support them in this endeavor, more power to them. My point-of-view towards Atari and their box is: prove it. Then we'll see if I become a fan of this Atari.

 

I saw a random guy wearing an Atari t-shirt walking across a parking lot today. I should've asked if he'd buy a new $300 console from Atari. Or a $130 hat. Probably would've thought I was crazy. Or panhandler.

[+Nathan Strum]

On the dark side, all this AtariBox news appears to have forced AtariAge off the 1st page of Google for the keyword "Atari."

 

 

Maybe Albert should start selling hats.

[+Nathan Strum]

Do I need to pull out the stick?

 

Depends on how uncomfortable it's getting.