New Atari Console that Ataribox?

[x=usr(1536)]

6 minutes ago, JBerel said:

the reality is they have been around since 98

I could almost swear they've been around longer than that - I moved to the US in 1998, and was reading them before I lived here.  Want to say '95-ish might be closer to the money.

 

Either way, they're coming on for a quarter-century of reporting, which is a hell of an accomplishment given how fickle ownership of media outlets and the subsequent changes that brings can be.

[Lodmot]

4 minutes ago, x=usr(1536) said:

I could almost swear they've been around longer than that - I moved to the US in 1998, and was reading them before I lived here.  Want to say '95-ish might be closer to the money.

 

Either way, they're coming on for a quarter-century of reporting, which is a hell of an accomplishment given how fickle ownership of media outlets and the subsequent changes that brings can be.

 

That's damn impressive though, either way. o:

I think they're older than Game-Revolution.com. I used to go to that site religiously to look up cheat codes for games. Lol. Then I found cheatcc.com, which had a much larger database of cheats. xD

Edited October 10, 2019 by Lodmot

[The Historian]

47 minutes ago, Lodmot said:

My point is, do we know for a fact that they're a reliable source of factual information, and they're not just trying to stir up the drama?

The sub-reddit drama has been over hyped by everyone who reported on it. The Official Account removed 1 thread and banned one user. It wasn’t until they set up their "Official" subreddit that they went on a banning and deleting binge.

[JBerel]

6 minutes ago, The Historian said:

The sub-reddit drama has been over hyped by everyone who reported on it. The Official Account removed 1 thread and banned one user. It wasn’t until they set up their "Official" subreddit that they went on a banning and deleting binge.

That's true. One account was removed that specifically pointed out their lack of worthwhile information and complete distractions by using their own activity. That got their panties in a bunch which precipitated their next several actions which began their latest undoing. They operate out of fear, as they should given what they are up to, and that lead them to freak out. Through all their B.S., the one thing their project cannot tolerate is a mirror. 

 

What I'm really curious about is the background of the supporter's fringe group members. Most of those guys are what somebody would refer to as low I.Q. individuals, so the motivation for their fervor is curious. Are they just radical nut jobs as their comments suggest, or are they in the employ of Atari in some formal or informal way. With Atari's recent track record, these would be the kind of people you'd expect Atari to recruit for social media crowd management.  I'd love to lock Karl/Biff, Andy Blakely, and the Werner Weenines in the same room for an hour and give them a few current events topics to discuss. When the room went quiet, you'd have to douse it with gasoline and burn it down to get rid of the stench.  

Edited October 10, 2019 by JBerel

[keithbk]

Just wanted to look up "Atari VCS Specs" to see if there were any, and it led me to this article:

 

https://www.pocket-lint.com/games/news/142369-atari-vcs-ataribox-pre-orders-price-specs-release-date

 

"It'll offer apps and access to streaming, social, web browsing, music listening and more, including services such as Netflix and Spotify."

 

Sounds to me they've developed a Roku that can work with a Joystick.... (I'm using the word "developed" loosely here, because there is no evidence anything has been developed).

Edited October 10, 2019 by keithbk

[Andrew Davie]

Some of the comments here are getting a bit out of hand, IMHO. Remember, there are real people on the other end of your keyboards. Talk about punching, physical harm, etc., even in (barely detectable) jest, are disappointing. The issue at hand is Atari's ability to deliver what they promised. and their poor skills at moderation and communication. Lies and mistruths abound, but there's a real grey area and uncertainty in all of this, and in recent days it's all started to become very tribal on both sides. I guess I just wanted to say that, although I am enjoying much of the show - it's like watching a train wreck in slow motion, as they say - it does bother me that there seem to be way too many personal and character attacks. Be better than them. Point out the lies, errors, omissions, but play the ball, not the man. My 2c.

[PlaysWithWolves]

45 minutes ago, Lodmot said:

I don't really recall when I mentioned reliable sources just now, lol. I mentioned having personal experience with the Atari VCS (which was negative). If you want to know who I use as reliable sources, usually it's SpawnWave and RGT85 and ReviewTechUSA-- all really good guys. o u o 

 

 

Yeah, my mistake.  I was referring to your question about Wyatt going to ElReg instead of other places.  I should've double-checked before putting quotes.  Apologies!  

 

 

[ColecoJoe]

Just now, PlaysWithWolves said:

 

Yeah, my mistake.  I was referring to your question about Wyatt going to ElReg instead of other places.  I should've double-checked before putting quotes.  Apologies!  

 

 

Did Wyatt go to the ElReg or did ElReg go to Wyatt?

[Lodmot]

8 minutes ago, keithbk said:

Just wanted to look up "Atari VCS Specs" to see if there were any, and it led me to this article:

 

https://www.pocket-lint.com/games/news/142369-atari-vcs-ataribox-pre-orders-price-specs-release-date

 

"It'll offer apps and access to streaming, social, web browsing, music listening and more, including services such as Netflix and Spotify."

 

Sounds to me they've developed a Roku that can work with a Joystick.... (I'm using the word "developed" loosely here, because there is no evidence anything has been developed).

They essentially made a Linux box, lol. It literally just boots up to an Ubuntu desktop environment-- that's it. 

That's fine for me, because I'll load LaunchBox or RetroArch on it. I'll find a good use for the console. But I can totally see other people expecting to be able to utilize it with a controller (not realizing you'll need to plug a keyboard and mouse into it), and they'll think it's defective or something.  

[x=usr(1536)]

20 minutes ago, JBerel said:

That's true. One account was removed that specifically pointed out their lack of worthwhile information and complete distractions by using their own activity. That got their panties in a bunch which precipitated their next several actions which began their latest undoing. They operate out of fear, as they should given what they are up to, and that lead them to freak out. Through all their B.S., the one thing their project cannot tolerate is a mirror. 

I would be delighted to see Atari SA to take someone to court for reporting on them in a less-than-favourable light.  Want to talk about mirrors?  That's one they likely don't want the public to be able to see as well; the disclosures could be utterly damning.

 

20 minutes ago, JBerel said:

What I'm really curious about is the background of the supporter's fringe group members. Most of those guys are what somebody would refer to as low I.Q. individuals, so the motivation for their fervor is curious. Are they just radical nut jobs as their comments suggest, or are they in the employ of Atari in some formal or informal way.

I've wondered about this as well, and think that Occam's Razor applies here: they're just useful idiots.

 

Granted, the 'useful' part is up for debate, but after this morning's 'WE'RE GONNA SUPPORT ATARI NO MATTER WHAT!' outburst, it seems to be a group of people who are bad at critical thinking and good at falling into tribal groups based on how they feel about <insert goods or services here>.

 

20 minutes ago, JBerel said:

 

With Atari's recent track record, these would be the kind of people you'd expect Atari to recruit for social media crowd management.  I'd love to lock Karl/Biff, Andy Blakely, and the Werner Weenines in the same room for an hour and give them a few current events topics to discuss. When the room went quiet, you'd have to douse it with gasoline and burn it down to get rid of the stench.  

Do it league-style on a ladder system.  The entertainment could be stretched out for days.  Winner gets a Facebook account and a box of sand to stick their head in.

[Thomas Jentzsch]

10 minutes ago, keithbk said:

Sounds to me they've developed a Roku that can work with a Joystick.... 

https://atariage.com/forums/topic/266480-new-atari-console-that-ataribox/?do=findComment&comment=3779875

[Lodmot]

1 minute ago, PlaysWithWolves said:

 

Yeah, my mistake.  I was referring to your question about Wyatt going to ElReg instead of other places.  I should've double-checked before putting quotes.  Apologies!  

 

 

No problem dude!  

[TwentySixHundred]

Lol yeah like Nintendo would let them sell the system with SNES titles... Nintendo would crush them with a lawsuit that AtariSA could never recover from.

 

[Flojomojo]

1 hour ago, PlaysWithWolves said:

It was definitely in the article at one point.

As was an assertion that Fred Chesnais took home $1M/year in compensation, which would be more than 5% of the company's total revenue. Everyone was outraged, justifiably so, but the numbers don't quite add up in that way. 

 

Speculation: that's what Rob Wyatt told him, and he didn't look closely enough (those financial disclosures are hard to read, even when not written in French), but he edited it out upon being corrected. I'm sure Kieren would tell us straight up what happened if we asked him via email or Twitter. Or someone could ask Rob via his feedback form. These guys are out there and some of them must be willing to talk. 

 

 

1 hour ago, Lodmot said:

Not to defend Atari or anything (and hopefully I don't get lambasted for this, lol), but I find it a little interesting that Rob Wyatt approached The Register (of all the different tech sites he had the choice to approach). 

 

It's just funny to me because the source of bad press (at least lately) is all coming from The Register, and other sources and YouTubers seem to be picking up what they're saying. 

 

My point is, do we know for a fact that they're a reliable source of factual information, and they're not just trying to stir up the drama?

The Register is legit, and there are a lot of stickler nerds watching them to make sure they get things right. Obviously there's a mocking undertone to a lot of the things they write. I know them best from their satirical Bastard Operator From Hell series, which is obviously played for laughs but draws on real experience. Their news is straight up and they're not the kind of place that simply regurgitates press releases. 

 

Here are my Google Alerts from this morning. Maybe the press has a negative bias, but I think the investigative angle is a lot more interesting than the peeps who simply want to re-tweet Atari PR. It's pretty clear that a lot of these outfits (especially YouTubers) tag onto the work done by others. In the best case, it's real journalists like Keiren. The laziest thing they can do is just re-use the shiny stuff farted out by UberStrategist on behalf of Atari SA. 

 

 

Read it all, choose for yourself who you should believe, think about what the speaker has to gain or lose when they hold their particular stance. 

 

31 minutes ago, The Historian said:

It was a generic email most likely sent to anyone that has worked with Atari. I thought it was odd when I received it, but when the Register article was released it all made sense. I've worked on NDAs for most of my career, so I've got a firm grasp of what can and cannot be said.

 

As for my avatar, it's not like I'm impossible to find online and when I was in there group they could see a personal photo. I've used "The Historian" and "Historian" since '98 and always associated it with my "True Name" (Any Vinge fans out there?).

I think we all knew that ... as you can see, they've also tried to connect the dots back to Intellivision, which is pants-on-head silly. Most of us know that this is all in fun, right? I don't get why they feel the need to make a holy war over this. We'll all find out the truth when this launches with a whimper and the backers are disappointed. The trend is pretty clear. 

 

Speaking of trends, Atari SA stock hasn't fully recovered from their Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day. They're not in the toilet yet, but what's their next trick? I think Atari should jump on the CBD fad, tie it back to the old Atari hot-tub culture, and forward to gamer performance. Young people! Big money! Fred Chesnais and Stuart Varney, together again! Get that stock back to 40 cents! Viva Infogrames!

 

[keithbk]

Wait... I think I've found the PERFECT solution for the latest, greatest Atari video game console!!!

 

Edited October 10, 2019 by keithbk

[Flojomojo]

7 minutes ago, TwentySixHundred said:

Lol yeah like Nintendo would let them sell the system with SNES titles... Nintendo would crush them with a lawsuit that AtariSA could never recover from.

 

Nintendo owns the license to put things on their machine, but not the code. There have been plenty of Street Fighter and MegaMan games from Capcom that are clearly the SNES versions, but in different places. Here's the latest: 

 

[Lodmot]

5 minutes ago, Flojomojo said:

Speaking of trends, Atari SA stock hasn't fully recovered from their Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day. They're not in the toilet yet, but what's their next trick? I think Atari should jump on the CBD fad, tie it back to the old Atari hot-tub culture, and forward to gamer performance. Young people! Big money! Fred Chesnais and Stuart Varney, together again! Get that stock back to 40 cents! Viva Infogrames!

 

How low can they go? o u o 

 

4 minutes ago, keithbk said:

Wait... I think I've found the PERFECT solution for the latest, greatest Atari video game console!!!

 

Lol, omg. Imagine if Atari was bought out by Sony or somebody? And Sony ended up using the plastic molds for the new VCS to make the PS5? xDDDD

[Flojomojo]

5 minutes ago, keithbk said:

Wait... I think I've found the PERFECT solution for the latest, greatest Atari video game console!!!

 

Will the REAL Atari Jaguar please step forward!

[ColecoJoe]

3 minutes ago, Flojomojo said:

Will the REAL Atari Jaguar please step forward!

You called?

 

[Shaggy the Atarian]

7 minutes ago, keithbk said:

Wait... I think I've found the PERFECT solution for the latest, greatest Atari video console!!!

 

I know that's supposedly the PS5 dev kit, but it looks like someone at Sony has been spending a little too much time browsing foot spas on Amazon. 

[The Strangest]

2 hours ago, ColecoJoe said:

HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY MY NAME IS

TALEROCKO!!!!

 

Drat, those sleuths over in the Atari VCS Supporters group... I hope they don’t discover that I’m actually the founder and CEO of Irata, Atari’s biggest competitor and arch-nemesis. I paid goochman to start this thread, I paid The Register to write those articles, and I paid all of those YouTubers to be mean to Atari. Once Atari goes under, I plan on releasing my own $300 do-nothing box and rake in millions! It will be called the Irata TCS (Taco Computer System)

 

Have you praised Irata today?

[PlaysWithWolves]

2 hours ago, ColecoJoe said:

Oh oh. I think the Historian is going to jail boys!!!!

 

 

 

And AtariAge, too!

[PlaysWithWolves]

49 minutes ago, The Historian said:

The sub-reddit drama has been over hyped by everyone who reported on it. The Official Account removed 1 thread and banned one user. It wasn’t until they set up their "Official" subreddit that they went on a banning and deleting binge.

 

I'm sure you'll recall that they also started threatening other users with banning.

But sure:  Technically they only did that much.

[TwentySixHundred]

5 minutes ago, Flojomojo said:

Nintendo owns the license to put things on their machine, but not the code. There have been plenty of Street Fighter and MegaMan games from Capcom that are clearly the SNES versions, but in different places. Here's the latest: 

 

 

Well im shocked and stand corrected.

[Shaggy the Atarian]

5 minutes ago, PlaysWithWolves said:

 

And AtariAge, too!

The walls are closing in! Just like Atari's next big announcement!Stay tuned!