+orpheuswaking Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 On 11/8/2019 at 2:19 PM, frogstar_robot said: ? I'll take 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, orpheuswaking said: I'll take 2 Don't you want to know how much RAM it contains? 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColecoJoe Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Flojomojo said: The team is working. On a new update post? Guys. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColecoJoe Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 21 minutes ago, Flojomojo said: Don't you want to know how much RAM it contains? It's upgradeable!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 8 minutes ago, ColecoJoe said: 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColecoJoe Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 oh oh, when is lunch by the way 1 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 There's no evidence for ANYthing those bright-eyed optimists are saying. Calling this a Flying Spaghetti Monster is insulting to FSMers everywhere. The "Dick Tracy" watch with the Atari label on it failed LONG AFTER many, many updates about production, long after they showed working prototypes. "Atari VCS" isn't even at that stage yet. "Have faith" is literally the opposite of evidence. "I believe" is the same. Andy "Overly Attached" Blakely only "bets" the software devs are working "insane hours." I will take that bet. Wishing doesn't make it so. But in his defense, zero hours is also "insane." Crossing fingers is far less effective than NOT giving money to obvious grifters 18 months ago. For someone who repeatedly says he still doesn't care if there's another delay, Andy sure talks a lot about it. Of course there's going to be a delay. There are only a few weeks before December. Of course the reputation of "Atari" is already a bad joke. But who cares about hurting future sales? It would be best for everyone, "Atari" included, for this to fail quickly. Even as a dumb joke, it's getting old. "Working with Walmart and others" means less than nothing. Walmart and Gamestop are being used like Amazon or Ebay in this case. "Atari" is hiding behind them to pretend this project is a real product. There's zero evidence that it is. Just because "Atari" is this far in, that's no reason they can't be hopelessly behind. Vaporware is the best description of what they have not shown. They look best when they're honest and open. They haven't looked very honest nor open to me. It's not a good starting point or beginning for anything, let alone a nearly 50-year old brand name. "Game devs," ha. Until "Atari" shows something beyond 2016's Atari Vault and the Windows-only Tempest 4000, there aren't any games. "Molds, boxes, etc." ... they don't exist until they've been shown. 10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBerel Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agillig Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 29 minutes ago, ColecoJoe said: oh oh, when is lunch by the way So, I guess the big takeaway is that most of these pigeons are willing to be strung along a lot longer than I thought, maybe indefinitely. I'll give Karl credit though. He's smart enough to know something's not quite kosher. He's also brave to post that in Werner Land where failing to drink the Koolaid gets you voted off the island 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColecoJoe Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Just now, Agillig said: So, I guess the big takeaway is that most of these pigeons are willing to be strung along a lot longer than I thought, maybe indefinitely. I'll give Karl credit though. He's smart enough to know something's not quite kosher. He's also brave to post that in Werner Land where failing to drink the Koolaid gets you voted off the island Yeah but he also thinks I'm Tommy Tallarico 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColecoJoe Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 12 minutes ago, Flojomojo said: There's no evidence for ANYthing those bright-eyed optimists are saying. Calling this a Flying Spaghetti Monster is insulting to FSMers everywhere. The "Dick Tracy" watch with the Atari label on it failed LONG AFTER many, many updates about production, long after they showed working prototypes. "Atari VCS" isn't even at that stage yet. "Have faith" is literally the opposite of evidence. "I believe" is the same. Andy "Overly Attached" Blakely only "bets" the software devs are working "insane hours." I will take that bet. Wishing doesn't make it so. But in his defense, zero hours is also "insane." Crossing fingers is far less effective than NOT giving money to obvious grifters 18 months ago. For someone who repeatedly says he still doesn't care if there's another delay, Andy sure talks a lot about it. Of course there's going to be a delay. There are only a few weeks before December. Of course the reputation of "Atari" is already a bad joke. But who cares about hurting future sales? It would be best for everyone, "Atari" included, for this to fail quickly. Even as a dumb joke, it's getting old. "Working with Walmart and others" means less than nothing. Walmart and Gamestop are being used like Amazon or Ebay in this case. "Atari" is hiding behind them to pretend this project is a real product. There's zero evidence that it is. Just because "Atari" is this far in, that's no reason they can't be hopelessly behind. Vaporware is the best description of what they have not shown. They look best when they're honest and open. They haven't looked very honest nor open to me. It's not a good starting point or beginning for anything, let alone a nearly 50-year old brand name. "Game devs," ha. Until "Atari" shows something beyond 2016's Atari Vault and the Windows-only Tempest 4000, there aren't any games. "Molds, boxes, etc." ... they don't exist until they've been shown. Settle down there .. the Wormer has spoken! You think he edited that comment just to make YOU all caps? I do 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBerel Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Just because you haven't been told, doesn't mean I'm wrong about any of the outlandish nonsense I believe. That's the great thing about facts and observation, everyone is wrong except me. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 minute ago, ColecoJoe said: Settle down there .. the Wormer has spoken! You think he edited that comment just to make YOU all caps? I do I ain't no grasshopper. I'm more of a taco-eating cucaracha. So here's what they said about 5 weeks ago Quote This is probably a good time to remind our Indiegogo backers of the participatory nature of their support. As we have stated before, the Atari VCS hardware that early backers receive will be 100% finished, but the software on these first units will be early access, exclusively available to our community. Atari will be counting on our many thousands of backers to help improve and enhance the VCS experience with all the great feedback and ideas we know they will provide, in advance of our retail launch in spring 2020. As agreed upon in the summer of 2018. Fair enough, if they hold up their end. Quote Our goal, as always, has been to make sure that we ship our official products with the help of our biggest fans. Of course we will provide many more details about the Atari VCS software directly to backers as we get closer to shipping. Did the backers hear anything directly? @Lodmot wouldn't have missed such a thing. Or perhaps, we aren't much closer to shipping. What's more likely? The one that has all the evidence around it. Call it Fred's Razor. What happened to his beard, anyway? Quote In the meantime, we hope you have enjoyed this latest “behind the scenes tour.” Ever notice we don't get to see members of "the team" anymore? Or are the factory workers in booties the new team? Quote We have more partnerships in the works and more new updates and announcements planned and very much look forward to sharing more with you soon! Maybe they have new lawyers to defend themselves from the incoming lawsuits? Maybe the announcements that are planned are about the inevitable delays? Maybe they've spent the week whiting out any possible substance from their photos, like they did here. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+frankodragon Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Did somebody say lunch? (I especially like at 1:13.) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBerel Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 This is probably a good time to remind our Indiegogo backers of the participatory nature of their support. As we have stated before, the Atari VCS hardware that early backers receive will be 100% finished, but the software on these first units will be early access, exclusively available to our community. Atari will be counting on our many thousands of backers to help improve and enhance the VCS experience with all the great feedback and ideas we know they will provide, in advance of our retail launch in spring 2020. Sounds like they're setting up the, "It's not a bug, it's a feature defense." Let me run this through my realtor/sales associate marketing translator........ "The broken crap you participated in getting conned into buying will be exclusively available to the community of dolts who paid up front for it." "It's gonna suck, so you'll get to participate in polishing the turd yourselves." "Those aren't defects, those are opportunities!" "As an added bonus, you'll get to figure out what, if anything, you can do with it when/if it arrives." 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 April 19, 2018: Quote It's an AMD, x86 processor, it's a hard-drive, it has an Ethernet support and USB - it's a little computer, and people make computers all the time. The hardware part of it is the easy part. Now it's baking in the software and making it a unique experience. That's the part we're really rolling up our sleeves and working on right now. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaysWithWolves Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 57 minutes ago, ColecoJoe said: oh oh, when is lunch by the way Karl, you're not giving us ammo. Instead, 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBeefy Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 hour ago, ColecoJoe said: oh oh, when is lunch by the way Uh oh Karls preparing for a launch... 59 minutes ago, ColecoJoe said: Yeah but he also thinks I'm Tommy Tallarico But aren't you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColecoJoe Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 minute ago, MrBeefy said: But aren't you? I thought you were? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy the Atarian Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 If Andy knows any dev that is actually working on the VCS, now would be a good time to inform the class 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+frankodragon Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 I can just see where Karl's "lunch" is coming from: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agillig Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 31 minutes ago, Shaggy the Atarian said: If Andy knows any dev that is actually working on the VCS, now would be a good time to inform the class Konami is working on Symphony of the Night 2, Capcom is releasing Super Street Fighter 5 Turbo Alpha. Both are VCS launch titles Yesterday, Activision announced Black Ops 5 is going to be a VCS exclusive. Ok...there's no third party support for this system, and judging from the number of people who said they contacted Atari to make games for this system, but were blown off, there never will be. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Maybe they'll get Half-Life 3 after all. Wow, look at this mean message. Someone needs a taco. Wow, who liked that? Ah, that explains it. 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roots.genoa Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 3 hours ago, Flojomojo said: "A fool and his money are soon separated with a 20/20 recoil"? ? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TACODON Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 I disagree with our friend Andy. I think Ass-tari has already delayed this project twice since launch and once before the launch even happened. As far as an update I have not received anything directly from them in a while. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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