Coolcrab Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 I doubt that I have a warranty here in Europe but I'll ask them. If I fix it i think it won't be long until it happens again. Are there any Atari cartridge passthroughs? E.g. a cart that has a socket on top? If not then I'll probably try to make one just to never use this f****** socket again. Was just about to write a glowing review.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+remowilliams Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 I looked inside and it seems that 3 pins are bent? Or should it be that way. I'd like a confirmation about whether or not those 3 should be there before I start poking the slot. Damn, that's not cool :/ Anything special about any of the carts you were swapping in and out, PCB wise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolcrab Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 There were some pirate carts. Maybe the PCB was thicker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+remowilliams Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 There were some pirate carts. Maybe the PCB was thicker? Yeah that's what I was thinking, maybe something of non standard size and/or no PCB bevel. More of a possible warning to others than a help for you I'm afraid though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 My guess is high profile youtubers such as yourself and MJR were used by Hyperkin to help get the word out and sell these thing quick to an unsuspecting public. Even though your reviews were even handed they definitely helped push some to buy these the day they were released. Hell I would have if they weren't US only. This is one time I'm glad being Canadian prevented me from buying something. I would suspect the same thing. It's easy to get reviewers going on some new product. It means hits on their channel. And companies get visibility. All powered by the hype of the unsuspecting public. I'm happy I continue to stick with waiting for a product to be crowdtested - because that is how things operate today. Marketing get so far ahead of itself that it directly affects product quality. People fall for it. And you have incomplete products coming out left and right. As a side note, the usual defense is that if you don't have crowdtesting, you'll never get a product out the door. This being said by both developers and users alike. Bullcrap. They achieved 100% compatibility back in the day.. with more crude hardware, more crude techniques, everything was more primitive back then. And they did it! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolcrab Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Now we know why it has a nice weight to it...they screwed metal bars to the bottom 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 If the machine is open, accessing those pins should be easier and you can bend them back easier. Have you actually seen the design on the cartridge connector? Does opening the unit allow removal of the shroud and complete access to the pins top to bottom? Once a pin is bent and folded at the bottom it's rarely the same again. Replacement of the connector is best. Or, these days, entire unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nathan Strum Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Now we know why it has a nice weight to it...they screwed metal bars to the bottom At least they're screwed in. Sony used to just glue metal weights to the inside of their stuff. Couldn't believe it the first time I discovered that. "Weight" = "Quality". 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Now we know why it has a nice weight to it...they screwed metal bars to the bottom That's too funny! Dare I say a farce? Exactly like those beats headphones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolcrab Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Have you actually seen the design on the cartridge connector? Does opening the unit allow removal of the shroud and complete access to the pins top to bottom? Once a pin is bent and folded at the bottom it's rarely the same again. Replacement of the connector is best. Or, these days, entire unit. Do you know where I can get these connectors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColecoJoe Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Why fix it yourself? You just got this thing, return it for a exchange! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 At least they're screwed in. Sony used to just glue metal weights to the inside of their stuff. Couldn't believe it the first time I discovered that. "Weight" = "Quality". It's things like this that reviewers don't mention. So. That tells me the rest of the unit is cheap and they need to add this weight to make it look like a quality product. It seems like "just enough" to make it seem quality. It would be more impressive and correct to use significant weight to allow the unit to stay stationary while handling carts, controls, and cables. Like a real heavy-sixer, not this junk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Do you know where I can get these connectors? I just cannibalize other products when I need a custom connector. Get the part and toss the rest. So sorry can't help you there. There are people that do VCS repairs, maybe they can guide you. But. Why not just make a warranty claim? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+remowilliams Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Now we know why it has a nice weight to it...they screwed metal bars to the bottom I figured there would be weights in there, the Analogue Super NT has them too for much the same reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolcrab Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 I didn't buy it. They sent me one because I complained that they were using my contract without permission. So I highly doubt that it has any warranty. Plus sending it back would cost a fortune. (Unless I take those weights out maybe ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaltran Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 (edited) Now we know why it has a nice weight to it...they screwed metal bars to the bottom Do you have more pictures of the inside? I wouldn't mind seeing them..... oh never mind found Stephen Anthony's breakdown on github Edited August 20, 2018 by Zaltran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolcrab Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Would this fit an Atari cart? They seem similar but maybe the spacing is different. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00N9I5WI0/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyHairy Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 (edited) Do you have more pictures of the inside? I wouldn't mind seeing them..... oh never mind found Stephen Anthony's breakdown on github I usually don't care about attribution, but as you are adding labels... that breakdown is actually my work (and the pictures were taken on my table ) . The second part ("The future") was written by Stephen. Edited August 20, 2018 by DirtyHairy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+stephena Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Yep, it only mentions my name at the top since I was the last one to edit the page. Doesn't mean I wrote the bulk of it through (I didn't, as DirtyHairy already mentioned). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Manhattan Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 My r77 doesn't seem to want to read carts all of a sudden... I was testing my library and put in about 40 carts in one hour. Now they all give weird noises and don't work, even the ones that did work a moment ago. I looked inside and it seems that 3 pins are bent? Or should it be that way. I'd like a confirmation about whether or not those 3 should be there before I start poking the slot. This is exactly what I expect from Hyperkin products. Out of the box and into the trash in just a few short weeks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctorclu Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Haha... well... sorry to hear all this. I've enjoyed my r77 and currently working on improving Miner 2049er after playing it for the first time on the r77. The game save is a nice touch, the HDMI is wonderful, and I liked the look of the system. But like the Flashback controllers and this one, I think I might have started to break my joystick with just a few weeks of play. Then again I've broken many joysticks from casual play in my time. Wish they would make the sticks out of industry grade plastic or something. Wonder if anyone 3D prints tough grade sticks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 (edited) This is exactly what I expect from Hyperkin products. Out of the box and into the trash in just a few short weeks. True enough. While I could never have guessed the lineup of problems the Retron77 is currently exhibiting in it's pre-release stage, I knew there would be some. Just not of this magnitude. It still bothers me (in a exasperated small kind of way) that people find its 60%'ish compatibility rate totally acceptable and defend it by saying it wasn't meant to be a VCS replacement. Then what is it? A way to play some cartridges, but not all. Might as well stick with emulators then! You get +90% compatibility for free, along with the ongoing chance to increase that further. Edited August 21, 2018 by Keatah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaltran Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 I usually don't care about attribution, but as you are adding labels... that breakdown is actually my work (and the pictures were taken on my table ) . The second part ("The future") was written by Stephen. oh well thank you then.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctorclu Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 I doubt that I have a warranty here in Europe but I'll ask them. If I fix it i think it won't be long until it happens again. Are there any Atari cartridge passthroughs? True enough. While I could never have guessed the lineup of problems the Retron77 is currently exhibiting in it's pre-release stage, I knew there would be some. Just not of this magnitude. It still bothers me (in a exasperated small kind of way) that people find its 60%'ish compatibility rate totally acceptable and defend it by saying it wasn't meant to be a VCS replacement. Then what is it? A way to play some cartridges, but not all. Might as well stick with emulators then! You get +90% compatibility for free, along with the ongoing chance to increase that further. Is there a compatibility list for the Retron 77 like we had for the Atari Flashback Portable? What I DO like about the Retron 77 is... 1) Hardware that can be reprogrammed (Linux based?) 2) HDMI support 3) Cartridge slot (though cheap and must be used sparingly apparently) 4) Joystick ports. That is all not bad for the price. And again, the reprogrammable aspect of this cheap hardware. Has anyone looked into if this hardware has the basics for 7800 emulation? How about the pin-out for Arcadia 2001? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolcrab Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 I was wondering if their cart dumper could be put onto a raspi. That would solve a lot of problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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