wfletcher3 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 I have similar issue. Original atari paddles work in ROM menu (up/down and select) but not in game (only fires). Hyperkin paddles do not work i9n either ROM menu nor game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmadgames Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 This might be a stupid question, but with the latest community build, is there a way to open the in game menu from the joystick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wfletcher3 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 I open the menu with the buttons on the back of retron. Then use joystick to go thru and select Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 R77 buttons are explained here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wfletcher3 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 Thanks Thomas. My problem is my joystick only has one button on the 2600... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 That should be no problem. The most relevant functions are still available via console buttons or command dialog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariFan1 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Hello All, I have a Retron 77 and I tried home-brews "The Byte before Christmas" and "Galagon" and both games had issues working. Galagon was not recognized by the Retron 77 and The Byte before Christmas defaulted to one game instead of the intro selection menu. I have the latest version of the Retron firmware. Any suggestions on how these two games can work properly on the Retron 77? Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 You mean the carts (not the ROMs), right? These two games will never work as carts, only as ROMs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godslabrat Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 What's the current compatibility with games from the AA store? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Cart port or emulator? And which firmware version? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godslabrat Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Just now, Thomas Jentzsch said: Cart port or emulator? And which firmware version? Cart port, but latest firmware Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Unchanged. And most likely will never change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 I had a customer contact me today stating their Edladdin Super CV Arcade Controller does not work with the Retron 77. I was wondering if anyone else here has one of those controllers and a Retron 77 and could test it with some joystick games? Thanks, ..Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 If you are testing, please use the latest 6.5.1 R77 release (Mr. Paddles). It might have improved other controllers too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+atari2600land Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 Questions. Is this just the same as an Atari 2600 only 40 years newer? And should I get one? I skimmed the thread and it mentions firmware. Why would a 40 year old console need that? I'm asking because my Atari 2600 vader has poor reception and my light sixer is worse. It would be cool to see all my games crystal clear like they should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex_79 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 5 hours ago, atari2600land said: Is this just the same as an Atari 2600 only 40 years newer? No, the R77 is a computer running the Stella emulator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+atari2600land Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 Hm. That's sad. I wonder why nobody ever made an Atari 2600 using the parts they made when it was first made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wfletcher3 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 Patents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+atari2600land Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 I thought of that, but why does a computer that runs an emulator (or the emulator itself) not run afoul of patent infringement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaverBoy Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 Analogue needs to put out a nostalgically designed wood grain FPGA console for the Atari VCS/5200/400/800 called the Analogue Av, with a wireless joystick/spinner combo controller, a wireless game pad controller, and a wireless trakball controller from 8BitDo. That’s the last one I need them to make, and I’ll be good. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 48 minutes ago, wfletcher3 said: Patents Those patents are all long-expired, anyone can develop a system these days that plays 2600 games. Just don't try to make your system look like an original Atari console, as they can attempt to go after you for infringing on trade dress. It's just much more expensive to develop hardware that mimics the original 2600, versus using cheap modern hardware that can easily emulate the 2600 (with varying degrees of success). The Flashback 2 developed by Curt Vendel years ago actually did use proper hardware that allowed you to run binaries natively, and it could be modified with a cartridge port to use physical cartridges. There are some FPGA solutions as well, such as the CollectorVision Phoenix, that will let you play 2600 as if they are running on the original hardware. I believe you can only load games via the SD card slot with the Phoenix, not sure if they ever created an adapter that lets you use 2600 cartridges. ..Al 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaverBoy Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 The Collectorvision Phoenix would appear to be non-acquirable at the moment ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 13 hours ago, atari2600land said: Hm. That's sad. Not really. Don't be fooled by "software emulator". Stella is rather advanced with a heritage going back 25+ years. Being strictly software so to speak, it continues to be expanded and updated as time goes on. I'm firmly in the software emulator camp for many reasons. SE has become more accurate and versatile in the past few years. And SE runs on all kinds of hardware that's available anywhere and everywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insertclevernamehere Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 On 2/28/2021 at 5:58 PM, Albert said: Those patents are all long-expired, anyone can develop a system these days that plays 2600 games. Just don't try to make your system look like an original Atari console, as they can attempt to go after you for infringing on trade dress. It's just much more expensive to develop hardware that mimics the original 2600, versus using cheap modern hardware that can easily emulate the 2600 (with varying degrees of success). The Flashback 2 developed by Curt Vendel years ago actually did use proper hardware that allowed you to run binaries natively, and it could be modified with a cartridge port to use physical cartridges. There are some FPGA solutions as well, such as the CollectorVision Phoenix, that will let you play 2600 as if they are running on the original hardware. I believe you can only load games via the SD card slot with the Phoenix, not sure if they ever created an adapter that lets you use 2600 cartridges. ..Al On 3/1/2021 at 1:08 AM, WaverBoy said: The Collectorvision Phoenix would appear to be non-acquirable at the moment ? As someone who owns a Phoenix, a large part of my reasoning for buying one was the Atari 2600 core and eventual cartridge adapter. The reality, more than 2 years after receiving it has been a little disappointing. While the Phoenix is awesome for playing Colecovision games either from the carts or roms via an SD card, the Atari 2600 core frankly sucks. The interface is a mess. It looks messy, it seems impossible to select which game variation you want for each title, it starts playing the game before you exit the menu, usually resulting in a death before you start playing, many games don't play at all or are broken enough to make the experience of the game much less enjoyable than on original hardware. There's still no sign of the cartridge adapter and I don't even know if that will make any difference to how broken the 2600 core still is. I've asked if it would a couple of times on the Phoenix forums but Collectorvision have remained silent on the subject. I think that probably means it won't make any difference. So to anyone who primarily would want a Phoenix to play Atari 2600 games, and feel they missed the boat, I can tell you that you really didn't miss out. You just saved yourself a couple of hundred bucks. With the amount of homebrews coming from AtariAge lately and with Audacity Games entering the market too, there's never been a better time for a new, quality console that can reliably play ALL Atari 2600 carts, including homebrews. The R77 doesn't seem to be the answer. I don't think it can play all carts, even updating Stella, although I maybe wrong. The last I read is that it still can't play Pitfall 2 at the very least and many of the more sophisticated homebrews. I got an Atari 2600 and fell for classic gaming hard relatively recently. Late 2017 and even I have noticed in that short time, a rise in cost of games, consoles and crt tv's to play them on. The single most frustrating aspect of classic gaming for me is the unreliability of both the consoles and the tv's we play them on. I have zero interest in emulation. I love to collect the carts and putting them in universal game cases, I love seeing them on my shelves. I love gimping covers for those that don't have one on coverproject.net, I love creating manual booklets from the pdf's. What fills me with dread and I have no time for, is the prospect of buying repair kits on console5.com, soldering irons on ebay, opening up my 2600 and trying to fix it myself. Nor do I want to keep replacing them or paying someone else to repair them. These consoles aren't getting any younger and as the hobby increases in popularity, these consoles and the crt tv's to play them on just keep getting rarer and more expensive. I think it is definitely time for someone to develop what everyone hoped the Retron 77 was going to be before that launched and disappointed everyone. Something with the reliability and quality of an Analogue console would be my ultimate dream. I'd be willing to pay Analogue prices for it too. If CV fans can be catered for with the Phoenix, I don't see how a 2600 fpga console can't be viable considering how much more popular the 2600 is than the CV. I really hope it happens, maybe within the next couple of years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, insertclevernamehere said: I don't think it can play all carts, even updating Stella, although I maybe wrong. The last I read is that it still can't play Pitfall 2 at the very least and many of the more sophisticated homebrews. Wrong. Edited March 12, 2021 by Thomas Jentzsch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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