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We the willing,

led by the unknowing,

are doing the impossible for the unwilling.

We have done so much,

for so long,

with so little,

we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.

 

 

This sounds SOOOO much like a programmers life.

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It's kinda like that pasta dish that didn't come out right from the very beginning. You keep adding spices and butter and toppings and cheese till it becomes a horrid mess. Then start over after 2 hours wasted time.

 

Food related: if you look at the list of ingredients and find "artificial coloring" and "artificial flavor" listed, that means when they finished it looked bad and tasted terrible!

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Just found this one. After crawling through the bowels of DSRs I must concur. :-)

 

 

It is time to unmask the computing community as a Secret Society for the Creation and Preservation of Artificial Complexity.

~ Edsger W. Dijkstra

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"It is practically impossible to teach good programming to students that have had a prior exposure to BASIC as potential programmers.

They are mentally mutilated beyond hope of regeneration."

Edsger W. Dijkstra

 

 

As demonstrated by many people here, it's not impossible, but this statement emphasizes the point that the BASIC language paradigm

​alters the perspective of programming enough that you must fight hard against it to learn a new programming language model

 

 

I completely disagree with with Dijkstra on this. BASIC is responsible for a whole generation of programmers that has not been repeated, despite how integrated computers have become in our daily lives. BASIC does have its problems, but it is no worse than any other language, and any many cases it is probably more approachable and usable. The biggest unfortunate part of BASIC, IMO, are the line-numbers (which are part of every BASIC that we got in the home computers). The loss of structure, both visually and logically, when using line numbers promotes the GOTO hell that everyone cites as "the problem" with BASIC. There are many dialects of BASIC, both old and new, that do not have or require line numbers and make the language much more appealing and usable.

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I completely disagree with with Dijkstra on this. BASIC is responsible for a whole generation of programmers that has not been repeated, despite how integrated computers have become in our daily lives. BASIC does have its problems, but it is no worse than any other language, and any many cases it is probably more approachable and usable. The biggest unfortunate part of BASIC, IMO, are the line-numbers (which are part of every BASIC that we got in the home computers). The loss of structure, both visually and logically, when using line numbers promotes the GOTO hell that everyone cites as "the problem" with BASIC. There are many dialects of BASIC, both old and new, that do not have or require line numbers and make the language much more appealing and usable.

Dijkstra had similar sentiments about COBOL:

"The use of COBOL cripples the mind; its teaching should, therefore, be regarded as a criminal offense."

I was delighted to point this out to my brother who is a COBOL programmer. His response was something like, "Sure you can get away with some very sloppy programming in COBOL. But you can also do structured programming, and when you're part of a team that is developing or maintaining software, then you better learn how to do it that way!"

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1979 Motorcycle magazine:

 

"Man dearly loves to complicate things, no one is fascinated with a crescent wrench."

 

Later in same article:

 

"Anything that can be repaired with just a screw driver, pliers and bailing wire is a great piece of engineering."

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