SNES Mini Confirmed

[icemanxp300]

 

 

So let me get this straight, if someone was selling blu ray copies of Logan on a street corner, as long as they printed "reproduction" on the packaging it wouldn't be considered a bootleg?

 

You and I both know that's a load of crock. I'm pretty sure the courts wouldn't make a distinction either.

 

Dude call it whatever you want, I said this!

 

 

In general people associate bootlegs as something claiming to be originals when they are not.

 

The courts really don't care what you call it, it will all be copyright infringement. Like I said it is all semantics.

 

My argument is when someone claims I am selling "bootlegs" that makes people assume I am selling something fake and trying to dupe people into thinking it is real. Since that is the WIDELY used term associated with Bootlegs. That is my problem w/using that word. It conveys something completely different then what I am doing.

 

Call them reproductions, call them fakes, call them bootlegs. I could really care less at the end of the day what you call them.

[fille1976]

@078265317:its in belgium Gamemania.

so i'm sure ill get 1.

[Tanooki]

Reproduction isn't a fair name to put, that's just a lie on top of a lie to make stupid people feel like they're not crossing a line. Much like those douchebags on various gaming forums who sell "NES reproductions" of Japanese games with translation hacks or stolen prototypes they still don't own the rights to but only the board it is on. Warez people, it's not a reproduction. At least with gaming it isn't, as what Piko does those are because he buys or shares on the rights with profit to get those things out with a contract behind it.

[icemanxp300]

Reproduction isn't a fair name to put, that's just a lie on top of a lie to make stupid people feel like they're not crossing a line. Much like those douchebags on various gaming forums who sell "NES reproductions" of Japanese games with translation hacks or stolen prototypes they still don't own the rights to but only the board it is on. Warez people, it's not a reproduction. At least with gaming it isn't, as what Piko does those are because he buys or shares on the rights with profit to get those things out with a contract behind it.

 

 

Good luck getting a knock-off warez label printed.

 

http://atariage.com/forums/topic/267223-mvs-stuff-used-shell-quality-knockoff-repop-label/?do=findComment&comment=3795745

 

Hypocrites are everywhere.

 

Lets touch on a few more post you made. You want to criticize me over reselling, you're laughable.

 

 

I'm game this should be easy, hopefully I can be diligent about it as I was last year aside from some minor slipping up in to the Sega pool of the earlier 90s.

 

- Downsize (not necessarily just games)

- Play more

- Not watch a dust bunny farm flourish

- Dedicate a focus on 1 modern system, 1 retro (thinking Switch, Dreamcast)

- No longer be a multi-current generation system owner

- Don't skip a deal, but buy far less

- Remember to enjoy my handheld games

- Remember to use my Pin-Bot and MVS (Neo-Geo) more

- Due to a negative budget still (wife mostly out of work) keep selling what I have to get stuff, or finding random stuff locally to buy to sell at a profit to do so

 

That's about it.

 

 

LOL Bash me over making repros... yet you buy them.

 

And I look at the price of some MVS games and smile knowing I have my banana cart which has 161in1 on there (more like around 100 after hacks) which include some expensive things like Viewpoint and Money Idol Exchanger. I'd take a multi-cart over a DRM shuttered rom dump and emulator. There would have to be something special, like that NES/SNES CE or the HD Genesis from ATgames to make me change my mind. Steam vs Stella +some downloads, no thanks.

 

Man I could make a thread about your hypocritical ass and keep it going strong. Get out of here you troll.

[Osgeld]

Not that this whole thing is off topic but I always called repos pirate copies and even have challenged it here on the forums

 

If I link to a rom I'm a filthy pirate if I place the same rom on a cart and call it a repo and then sell it its all good

 

And this is true in any retro game - computer community, therefore ice is doing nothing wrong by the very community that supports his activity both in words and dollars

 

Now shadap about it and lets get back to frothing over some dumb toy we all have roms for

Edited July 1, 2017 by Osgeld

[Tanooki]

Feel free iceman. You're calling me a troll considering how you've acted, that's rich.

 

I don't intentionally seek out bootlegs, but I've had a few fall into my hands because it was part of a deal which would have fallen through without taking them as well. You really think I'd tell a seller, sorry I don't want your FC Mobile 88 because of the 500in1 cart, or that sorry I don't want your MVS cabinet because aside from those 9 games the other is an icky bootleg multicart? Hell shelved that 161in1 up since writing that as the NeoSD FAQ touched on it at the end and what problems it has and I want nothing to do with it now. I'll either pass it on or pass it into the trash, not sure at this rate but put up.

 

I don't know what the hell your problem is, but trying to deflect from your own problems by putting attention on me will get you nowhere.

 

Oh and I made my own label thanks. Mvs-scans has a nice one to size, but has some problems with it, cleaned it up in photoshop and printed it, then used an elmers glue stick to attach it to my cart. Problem solved. Boo hoo eh?

 

 

 

I wasn't even attacking you like others were, but whatever floats your boat. That's just how I feel about people lying about the definition of a reproduction are and if that bent you out of shape that's your own guilt at play. I was just going off what mayhem said and you fairly well agreed with but just called another form of word play.

[0078265317]

@078265317:its in belgium Gamemania.

so i'm sure ill get 1.

 

What is?

[keepdreamin]

 

 

 

 

Man I could make a thread about your hypocritical ass and keep it going strong. Get out of here you troll.

 

 

The dealer calling out the junkie. Can't make this stuff up

Edited July 2, 2017 by keepdreamin

[icemanxp300]

 

I don't intentionally seek out bootlegs, but I've had a few fall into my hands because it was part of a deal which would have fallen through without taking them as well.

 

 

Ok how many do you have exactly? Sounds like a lot just "fall" into your hands

 

I've got one of those fakes I had a friend make over 5 years ago at cost plus a little extra for his time as it really does take about 2 hours to individually wire each lead off that FX chip back into a Stunt Race (or DOOM) cart. I went with Stunt Race as I'd rather it save the Pepper coins than not.

 

 

I wasn't even attacking you like others were, but whatever floats your boat.

 

Gee thanks for taking it easy on me.

Well hopefully he's busted before he can scalp the systems for 3x their value. Sorry my butt. Lucky I'm not a moderator...

 

 

 

Reproduction isn't a fair name to put, that's just a lie on top of a lie to make stupid people feel like they're not crossing a line. Much like those douchebags on various gaming forums who sell "NES reproductions" of Japanese games with translation hacks or stolen prototypes they still don't own the rights to but only the board it is on. Warez people, it's not a reproduction. At least with gaming it isn't, as what Piko does those are because he buys or shares on the rights with profit to get those things out with a contract behind it.

 

You guys "could" just worry about the topic and get off my ass.

 

 

 

 

The dealer calling out the junkie. Can't make this stuff up

 

LMFAO Hahahahahahahha.

 

Dude 10 minutes later and I'm still fn dying over this. Damn You I was trying to get stuff done.

[Tanooki]

#1 The two I mentioned plus a Supervision 115in1 NES cart from about 8-9 years ago from a flea market loaded with 32kb-65kb Famicom titles.

#2-3 That kind of was the point. Easier the better. Clearly I'm bored enough to keep replying to this when I didn't have to in the first place.

#4-5 I wasn't on it until you decided to take a general comment personally

 

Whatever floats your boat I guess. It's amusing when a couple of you who know basically nothing at all about me can just whip out the jump to conclusions mat and start calling hypocrite or other stupid names. If that makes you feel better that's fine. Have at it. I kind of figured people here were a bit more mature than most other gaming sites, guess not but no big deal either way.

[godslabrat]

Okay, so is the side-conversation over now?

[Osgeld]

whenever uber mario fanboi stops being right I guess we can get back on topic

 

It's amusing when a couple of you who know basically nothing at all about me

 

 

no you are mistaken, we just dont give a single shit to know 1 simplistic thing about you other than you argue more than I do, and god damn son, THAT is a freaking accomplishment

Edited July 2, 2017 by Osgeld

[icemanxp300]

Whatever floats your boat I guess. It's amusing when a couple of you who know basically nothing at all about me can just whip out the jump to conclusions mat and start calling hypocrite or other stupid names. If that makes you feel better that's fine. Have at it. I kind of figured people here were a bit more mature than most other gaming sites, guess not but no big deal either way.

 

I never said anything to you or about you until you took it upon yourself to start w/me. I sure as hell am not jumping to any conclusions. You hope I get busted before I scalp systems, while you admit you buy to resell for profit. Seriously dude, how are you NOT being a hypocrite?

 

Then you come at me again over reproductions and yeah the shit is getting old. I have no problem taking shit from people, but I am going to give it back, so if you can't handle being called out I suggest you just stay out!

[cybercylon]

Please? Can we get back to talking about the little box that is is bringing the best out in everyone.

 

Maybe I missed it in an earlier post, but any idea what hardware is running it? I assume some sort of ARM chip with an emulator... or maybe they have some system on a chip? How did the NES mini compare to the original hardware with accuracy?

 

(can't say I didn't try...)

[Osgeld]

I dont think there is any spec's but its probally the same system cause the very weak arm system on the NES classic was spinning most of its cycles doing nothing once the games fired up (I mean keep in mind people were running NES emulation on playstation speed 3rd hand PC's 20 years ago)

 

as far as accuracy, the system faired well in comparison with most china boxes you can buy all day long for 1/3 the price, decent video, some audio issues, and a little input lag, which is what one can expect from a SOC on par with a original high end pentium ... which is a fair comparison with the NES classic

 

maybe they boosted horsepower a tiny bit or spent a bit more money on better emulation, but lets keep things in perspective, its a do-whoppy that probally has far more cost in developing its plastic case than it does in electronics, and if you are blessed to have the privilage to actually buy one of the turds, it cost less than a family evening at the movies ... AFTER packaging and retail markup

 

its not state of the art perfect shit here

Edited July 2, 2017 by Osgeld

[Tanooki]

I won't let it go if that's what you're after just because of the nitpicking. Hardly an uber fanboy of Mario despite the online name, haven't touched a Mario game in awhile.

 

Ice easy. Sure you could call it splitting hairs. You're talking about taking a new for sale product off the shelf and screwing someone over for a notably higher price because you got there first. That's the problem and it's not you it's anyone who did that or does that whether it's scalping tickets or a NES (or SNES) CE type system...it's not right. What I'm doing is just finding decade plus off the new market old goods and either keeping them or selling them to get something else. Virtually the same, but not.

 

I came not at you but at the definition of reproductions. Ask anyone at NIntendoAge or Racketboy I've said it for years, you're not someone special being singled out. I've called 'reproing' old games as a bs lie to make people feel better about getting resold warez in a pretty wrapper. I'll stay out when I'm banned out, same with any site. I'm fine letting an argument die too, but I don't let them stand either with shit flung as the last comment either.

 

 

Cyber: It's assumed at this point since the hardware is vastly more than capable as it is to just be a repackaged setup of the NES CE with a new set of roms wrapped up in a new shell and new controllers along with what it takes to make it all tick. Nintendo loves to re-use hardware time and again (Gamecube->Wii->WiiU -- and both the GB->GBC (z80) and GBA->3DS (ARM) setup.)

[Andromeda Stardust]

Not really sure what the point of this move was rather than just going the conventional route with Wiimote controller ports taking the place of SNES style ports (When it's out of the box, it's setup with controllers plugged in, not left unplugged). But here's how it looks with the controller port door down.

 

That's butt ugly. Honestly they should have just stuck the Wiimote ports on the exterior of the console and left it at that. It would have even been cheaper with less parts to injection mold. As it is, I don't even think it's possible to plug just player one in without dropping both covers.

[Andromeda Stardust]

 

 

Good luck getting a knock-off warez label printed.

 

http://atariage.com/forums/topic/267223-mvs-stuff-used-shell-quality-knockoff-repop-label/?do=findComment&comment=3795745

 

Hypocrites are everywhere.

 

Lets touch on a few more post you made. You want to criticize me over reselling, you're laughable.

 

 

 

 

LOL Bash me over making repros... yet you buy them.

 

 

Man I could make a thread about your hypocritical ass and keep it going strong. Get out of here you troll.

Way to punch people below the belt Iceman...

[0078265317]

Honestly they should have just stuck the Wiimote ports on the exterior of the console and left it at that. It would have even been cheaper with less parts to injection mold. As it is, I don't even think it's possible to plug just player one in without dropping both covers.

 

Slice the cover in half right down the middle with a dremel. Then just open the first half and leave the second half shut. Only 1 controller plugged in.

[Schizophretard]

 

Dude call it whatever you want, I said this!

 

 

The courts really don't care what you call it, it will all be copyright infringement. Like I said it is all semantics.

 

My argument is when someone claims I am selling "bootlegs" that makes people assume I am selling something fake and trying to dupe people into thinking it is real. Since that is the WIDELY used term associated with Bootlegs. That is my problem w/using that word. It conveys something completely different then what I am doing.

 

Call them reproductions, call them fakes, call them bootlegs. I could really care less at the end of the day what you call them.

 

It wasn't just the use of the word bootleg that made it seem like you were trying to dupe people but also those bootlegs being referred to as counterfeits that you should feel shame and remorse for. Both words also carry a negative connotation with them of not just being copies but poor copies from the history of so many bootleg counterfeit items being of lower quality than the things they are copies of instead of professionally done with care. A counterfeit is a copy with the intent to defraud people like if someone made an exact replica of an Air Raid cartridge CIB and tried to auction it off for thousands of dollars as the real thing. That kind of thing harms the community and hobby. But high quality reproductions with no intent to defraud like this guys sells isn't really anything to feel shame and remorse for. And it helps the community and hobby by making games available to people other than collectors while also helping the collectors by creating less demand for the official versions. So, if you are doing something like that then I don't really see an issue.

[Classic Pac]

I would be willing to bet my entire paycheck that I will never see one of these in the stores

[Schizophretard]

I would be willing to bet my entire paycheck that I will never see one of these in the stores

 

I would recommend placing that bet on eBay.

[icemanxp300]

But high quality reproductions with no intent to defraud like icemanxp300 sells isn't really anything to feel shame and remorse for. And it helps the community and hobby by making games available to people other than collectors while also helping the collectors by creating less demand for the official versions.

 

Thanks!

[Trinity]

How much for a Galaxian nes repro cart? I want another one.

 

Oh, and Qix nes.

Edited July 2, 2017 by Trinity

[enoofu]

Sad that its basically single player games outside of

Contra III: The Alien Wars

Street Fighter® II Turbo: Hyper Fighting

Super Mario Kart