Turbo-Torch Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Possibly Laser? First time I saw them, I thought the more expensive one was just the same Apple model with more memory. I remember the main difference was the IBM version had a quite a few more keys. Floppy drive was on the right side like my EX...but definitely not a rebranded EX. Each had a card in front of it with specs but it's been so long ago I can't remember what the memory was or even if it was an 8088 or 8086. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 (edited) Today I spotted this "Key Comp" which supposedly is a 286 with what seems to be a 3.5" drive. The seller is asking at least $250 + shipping to let it go, so I'm not in the market to buy it. Edit: See also this thread on the Vintage Computer Federation forum: http://www.vcfed.org/forum/showthread.php?21264-Computer-In-A-Keyboard-PCs Edited October 4, 2017 by carlsson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goochman Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Wikipedia and Old-Computers both refer to PC-6000 and PC-8000 but all three IBM compatibles from Franklin Ace seem to be desktop models in the same form factor as the 5000, not all in ones. What are the odds that Sears would've rebranded one of the other models already mentioned in this thread? Obviously not the Tandy's as you would have recognized that one, but perhaps a rebranded Amstrad or VTech Laser. I worked at Sears when they sold the Franklin Apple and IBM knock offs. The IBM knock off's were desktop models, not all in 1's. They were 8088 with 640k of memory (maybe a tad more). They were nothing special and IMHO a rip off since I believe 286's were starting to come out at the time. The Apple models were compact. I thought they were Laser's, but Im pretty sure we sold Franklin Apple compat models also. We didnt sell many Franklin IBM compat due to price/performance/features. They were junk. We sold a few of the Lasers, but not having 100% compat hurt them. I pushed a # of people to get Atari ST's instead at that time from the local Atari dealer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo-Torch Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Figured it out after watching Laser XT Restoration video by The 8-Bit Guy! Laser Compact XT looks just like the Laser 128. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesD Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 That might have been the machine I was thinking of as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryoder Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 The 8 bit guy has a recent review of the laser xt. I have a Tandy 100 HX with 640k and an XT IDE and it rocks. CM-11 is super high quality. Vintage gaming Sierra style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82-T/A Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 In my opinion... if you want to play games on "original" hardware, and want everything from 8088/XT all the way up to Pentium 2, then you'll want to have two systems. I recommend something like a Tandy 386 SX for the lower-end / older games (so you can get the 3-voice polyphony sound), and then go with literally a Pentium 2 PC for the mid to early 2000 games. That's what I have, and it serves my needs really well. Except, I don't have a Tandy, I have a DELL 325P which is a super slim-line PC. 3.5" floppy and a CD drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatta Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 A 386 Tandy is too fast for the XT era games. Try playing Paratrooper on that. You need at least 3 systems if you want to stay on vintage hardware. An XT class machine (I use a Tandy 1000TX), a 386 for Wing Commander, etc(I use a Tandy 2500sx), and a Pentium II or III on a 440BX motherboard for protected mode games and early Windows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryoder Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Hatta you are right. I have a HX and TL for the mid 80s to 88 games. I have a 1000 RSX and 2500 for the newer stuff and need to get a CD for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 An Epson PC286C all-in-one is for sale on eBay by one of our regulars. It doesn't seem to have been mentioned previously in this thread. Epson even fitted TWO floppy drives into that case. https://www.ebay.com/itm/263394723135 http://atariage.com/forums/topic/273555-vintage-japanese-8-bit-computers-and-games-for-sale/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klrw111-78 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Many of the Tandy 1000 machine came with less than 640k ram on the motherboard and lacked a DMA controller which was required for a HD. An add on memory card to reach 640k or a hard drive card made for the 1000 (which had a DNA chip) was required. Another razor-razorblade marketing scheme used by RS. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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