Where are these Zong titles? ABBUC?

[+Swami]

Hi, Trying to find these Zong titles. I heard KE-soft bought them and made them public domain with ABBUC, but I can't find them there. Are they in some special folder? Thanks.

- Vanish (ZONG, Vol. 5+6/1993);          use an ST-mouse in port 2 - Hong Kong (ZONG, Vol. 5+6/1993);       use an ST-mouse in port 2- Maus-DOS (ZONG 5+6/1993);              use an ST-mouse in port 2- Faecher-Patience (ZONG 1/1993);        use an ST-mouse in port 2- Macao (Zong 5+6/1994);                 use an ST-mouse in port 2

Edit: Okay. Seems I need a membership to download. Not sure if they are even there for download or work, though. Anyhow, I applied for membership to a site whose language I can't understand.

[+Swami]

Fandal's site had all but Macao and Maus-DOS, which appear to be extinct or well hidden on the internet

[Fred_M]

I have searched in the ABBUC public domain catalogue.

 

Issuedisk 5+6/93 is ABBUC PD disk 0861

Issuedisk 1/93 is ABBUC PD disk 0858

Issuedisk 5+6/94 is ABBUC PD disk 0867

[+Swami]

I contacted Apemaster of KE-Soft and...

ZONG9394.zip

[+Swami]

I have searched in the ABBUC public domain catalogue.

 

Issuedisk 5+6/93 is ABBUC PD disk 0861

Issuedisk 1/93 is ABBUC PD disk 0858

Issuedisk 5+6/94 is ABBUC PD disk 0867

 

Okay, Thanks. So then I contacted Apemaster of KE-soft fame, who donated the files to ABBUC and he generously messaged them to me. I know they are PD, but saved me some hassle.

[+CharlieChaplin]

Well,

 

I was at a birthday today, so a little late here are the programs...

 

Why another time ?!? Well, you cannot run the programs from the ZONG diskettes, because KE was selling a mouse-driver diskette separately. And guess what ? On the ZONG diskettes the mouse-driver and the patched TB XL is missing (so the mouse-games do not work)... the ZONG magazine therefore stated that you should buy the mouse-driver disk and then copy all nescessary files onto a separate disk.

 

And thats what I did, copied all KE mouse programs from ZONG onto separate diskettes with mouse-driver and patched TB XL so they run fine (the attachment includes the KE mouse-driver disk, Hong Kong, Maus-DOS, Patience, Vanish and Macao XL)...

 

 

 

 

 

 

KE-MOUSE.zip

[+Swami]

I have searched in the ABBUC public domain catalogue.

 

Issuedisk 5+6/93 is ABBUC PD disk 0861

Issuedisk 1/93 is ABBUC PD disk 0858

Issuedisk 5+6/94 is ABBUC PD disk 0867

 

This is kind of a crazy question, but I assumed the text/picture issues of Zong Magazine itself, such as the pdf's on Atarimania, were originally in paper print with disks included, but the early ones were just disks and starting in 1991 were print with disk included. Anyhow, would anyone know if there are Zong magazine issues in the PD catalog in some print form with editorial content similar to these pdfs (are most of these atarimania issues missing?)?

 

http://www.atarimania.com/atari-magazine-zong_38.html

[+Swami]

Crazy sh*t you find looking for Zong magazine reprints: emulated see-through pic of tiffany amber theissen on cover of some czech Atari 8-bit disk magazine. Remember those from circa 1995?

 

Poke around here if you are curious, about 50 pretty standard normal covers on this page with this one NSFW thrown in.

 

http://www.atari8.cz/calp/index.php

[Fred_M]

In the ABBUC PD section are the disks with the programs of these particular issues. I don't think there is an archive of all Zong issues available on the internet.

 

You stated in your first post "I applied for membership to a site whose language I can't understand". All (but one) Zong Magazines are in the German language

Edited October 2, 2017 by Fred_M

[+Swami]

In the ABBUC PD section are the disks with the programs of these particular issues. I don't think there is an archive of all Zong issues available on the internet.

 

You stated in your first post "I applied for membership to a site whose language I can't understand". All (but one) Zong Magazines are in the German language

There is always PDF-OCR and google translate I just don't commonly subscribe to sites whose languages I don't read. I did takr a year of German some 25 years ago in college. These only work passably for short documents though.

[+CharlieChaplin]

In the ABBUC PD section are the disks with the programs of these particular issues. I don't think there is an archive of all Zong issues available on the internet.

 

But I am on the internet - and I do have an archive of almost all ZONG magazines and diskettes

 

ZONG started in April 1989 as a disk-magazine, after six issues it was a paper-magazine (from October 1989 onwards) with separate diskette (that contained only software, e.g. games and tools by KE). At first you could only subscribe the disk-magazine, while later you had the choice of a) subscribing the paper-magazine only or b) subscribing the paper-magazine + diskette...

 

Afaik, most if not all ZONG paper-magazines are available at atarimania for download. If not, I have them on my 256GB USB stick, filled with approx. 80GB of A8 paper-magazines (from the Abbuc Scan Project)...

http://www.atarimania.com/atari-magazine-zong_38.html

 

I also have the ZONG diskettes, but alas one (or more?) is defective - issue 10/1989. I have not found that diskette online yet (it is downloadable from the HAPS PD library as an ATR image, alas, the disk is not issue 10/1989 but another ZONG diskette from the 90s; Kemal`s old webpage at http://www.kemalsatariarchiv.gmxhome.de/von1989.html gives an 404 Error when trying to download from there)...

 

Anyways, attached you will find the ZONG diskettes I have...

ZONG_disks.zip

Edited October 2, 2017 by CharlieChaplin

[HiassofT]

I also have the ZONG diskettes, but alas one (or more?) is defective - issue 10/1989. I have not found that diskette online yet (it is downloadable from the HAPS PD library as an ATR image, alas, the disk is not issue 10/1989 but another ZONG diskette from the 90s; Kemal`s old webpage at http://www.kemalsatariarchiv.gmxhome.de/von1989.html gives an 404 Error when trying to download from there)...

Looks like archive.org has these:

 

http://web.archive.org/web/20030220064108/http://www.kemalsatariarchiv.gmxhome.de/von1989.html

http://web.archive.org/web/20030220064108/http://www.strotmann.de/~kyun/ZONG89/ZONG89-10-A.ATR

http://web.archive.org/web/20030220064108/http://www.strotmann.de/~kyun/ZONG89/ZONG89-10-B.ATR

 

Full list of Kemal's stuff on Carsten's server:

http://web.archive.org/web/20100709024157/https://www.strotmann.de/~kyun/

 

so long,

 

Hias

Edited October 2, 2017 by HiassofT

[+CharlieChaplin]

Thanks for the info!

 

Alas, the images at archive.org (10/1989) are also defective/incomplete, they have a size of 9kybtes instead of 90kbytes, ouch! The images boot, so maybe DOS.SYS is okay, but due to the size of 9kbytes, you can only look at the READY prompt, typing "DOS" does not work, trying to read or display the DIRectory also does not work, etc.

Edited October 2, 2017 by CharlieChaplin

[HiassofT]

The 89-10 A and B ATRs look fine here - 133k and 90k - downloaded with Firefox 52 ESR on Debian Stretch.

 

so long,

 

Hias

ZONG89-10-A.ATR

ZONG89-10-B.ATR

[+CharlieChaplin]

Thank you !

 

Maybe it is because I am still using WIN XP 32bit and an older Firefox 51.x.x.x...

 

The images you uploaded here work fine, great !!

[+Swami]

Full list of Kemal's stuff on Carsten's server:

http://web.archive.org/web/20100709024157/https://www.strotmann.de/~kyun/

 

so long,

 

Hias

Thank you. You are some kind of wizard. I kept getting either 404 not found from links on kemal's site or just strotmann's new site without the ~kyun archive.

[+Swami]

 

But I am on the internet - and I do have an archive of almost all ZONG magazines and diskettes

 

ZONG started in April 1989 as a disk-magazine, after six issues it was a paper-magazine (from October 1989 onwards) with separate diskette (that contained only software, e.g. games and tools by KE). At first you could only subscribe the disk-magazine, while later you had the choice of a) subscribing the paper-magazine only or b) subscribing the paper-magazine + diskette...

 

Afaik, most if not all ZONG paper-magazines are available at atarimania for download. If not, I have them on my 256GB USB stick, filled with approx. 80GB of A8 paper-magazines (from the Abbuc Scan Project)...

http://www.atarimania.com/atari-magazine-zong_38.html

 

I also have the ZONG diskettes, but alas one (or more?) is defective - issue 10/1989. I have not found that diskette online yet (it is downloadable from the HAPS PD library as an ATR image, alas, the disk is not issue 10/1989 but another ZONG diskette from the 90s; Kemal`s old webpage at http://www.kemalsatariarchiv.gmxhome.de/von1989.html gives an 404 Error when trying to download from there)...

 

Anyways, attached you will find the ZONG diskettes I have...

Great! Thanks for the files. Were there ever print editions of Zong in 1993 and 1994 along with the 93/94 mouse games on diskette (see below), or did they return to disk-only these two years?

ZONG, Vol. 1/1993ZONG, Vol. 5+6/1993ZONG, Vol. 5+6/1994

[+CharlieChaplin]

There were print editions of Zong from 10/1989 until the very end in July/August 1996. So all issues of 1993 and 1994 are available as print editions (see atarimania). The mouse-games were also printed in the magazine as type-in listings but were hardly readable (and even more difficult to type in). Hopefully you do not want the scans of these listings...

 

Now, do you only need the single pages (german descriptions) of the mouse games or the complete ZONG paper-magazines of these issues ? I am asking, because Zong 1-1993 has a length of 9.5 Megabytes, 5+6/1993 is 15.1 Megabytes and 5+6/1994 is 13.3 Megabytes - all are in PDF format (scanned pages were originally JPG pictures).

 

Attached are the single pages of the Zong/KE mouse programs descriptions in JPG format. Let me know if you want to have the complete Zong magazines in PDF format...

 

P.S.: Also added a page from Zong issue 7+8/1993 (mouse-game: Vanish)...

Zong_mouse_games_german_descriptions.zip

Edited October 2, 2017 by CharlieChaplin

[+Swami]

There were print editions of Zong from 10/1989 until the very end in July/August 1996. So all issues of 1993 and 1994 are available as print editions (see atarimania). The mouse-games were also printed in the magazine as type-in listings but were hardly readable (and even more difficult to type in). Hopefully you do not want the scans of these listings...

 

Now, do you only need the single pages (german descriptions) of the mouse games or the complete ZONG paper-magazines of these issues ? I am asking, because Zong 1-1993 has a length of 9.5 Megabytes, 5+6/1993 is 15.1 Megabytes and 5+6/1994 is 13.3 Megabytes - all are in PDF format (scanned pages were originally JPG pictures).

 

Attached are the single pages of the Zong/KE mouse programs descriptions in JPG format. Let me know if you want to have the complete Zong magazines in PDF format...

 

P.S.: Also added a page from Zong issue 7+8/1993 (mouse-game: Vanish)...

Thank you, this is awesome. This is all I wanted for now. But while we are at it, would you be willing to sell a copy of your flash drive for future reference?

[+Swami]

Here is another thread of some possible interest, since some of the other mouse games in magazines of the era were from AMC Verlag:

 

http://atariage.com/forums/topic/258792-what-is-amc-soft-amc-verlag/