JamesD Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 And entire month's worth of bandwidth for me.https://www.vg247.com/2017/10/09/middle-earth-shadow-of-war-is-a-97-7gb-download-on-pc/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punisher5.0 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Games have gotten ridiculously big. DOOM has to be past 100 gigs by now. It does have the best textures I've ever seen though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesD Posted October 9, 2017 Author Share Posted October 9, 2017 I like games like this when they come on disk and I can dump everything buy my saved games if I need the hard drive space for something else.You can always reinstall the game.But downloads... they'd better give me an archive(s) I can burn to a DVD(s).I get mad enough at steam for updating every few days. This? No thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanooki Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Disgusting really as the TS pointed out a lot of people have smaller monthly download caps. Guess you're SOL with that one? I know I have a soft unenforced 1TB cap supposedly on mine but I would think if stuff started getting this large commonly the cap would have to rise or just stop downloading which is stupid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godslabrat Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Yeah, remember when downloads were supposed to be king and physical media was dead and useless? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mord Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Yeah, remember when downloads were supposed to be king and physical media was dead and useless? This is just one of the reasons I still tend to prefer physical media. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jce3000gt Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 This is just one of the reasons I still tend to prefer physical media. ^ This. I've already stated my opinion pretty much everywhere on how I loathe digital media and the whole push to digital so I won't rehash it here. All I will say is I literally just got an unlimited bandwidth ISP and I'm glad I did because the sizes of these games are ludicrous. Pretty soon my 1TB PS4 Pro will seem like a floppy drive. Good thing I bought a 2TB external for my XBOX One because my 512GB just wouldn't cut it nowadays. How assbackwards is that. I used to be concerned about my PC games fitting on my 25MB harddrive... My have things changed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPA5 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 65gb without the 4k textures, 98gb with the 4k textures. Still hefty, but 65gb is about standard for triple-A PC games these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mord Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 65gb without the 4k textures, 98gb with the 4k textures. Still hefty, but 65gb is about standard for triple-A PC games these days. And with download requirements like that, I'm absolutely ecstatic that I'm not that into often buggy, increasingly nickle-and-diming, drm-laden triple-A games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesD Posted October 20, 2017 Author Share Posted October 20, 2017 Just to update Windows on my 2 laptops is going to take over 20 GB. When combined with Steam updates every couple days, virus checker updates, etc... it adds up in a hurry.My 100GB monthy bandwidth is 1/4 gone before I do anything else. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Download caps, yuck. Can you get a better provider, upgrade to uncapped/business service, or are you stuck? 100GB a month is a truly puny data allowance -- you can't even stream much HD video on that little data. It's like relying on bottled water -- OK in an emergency, but not good long term. My mobile plan gives me 30GB, and that goes everywhere I do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesD Posted October 20, 2017 Author Share Posted October 20, 2017 Download caps, yuck. Can you get a better provider, upgrade to uncapped/business service, or are you stuck? 100GB a month is a truly puny data allowance -- you can't even stream much HD video on that little data. It's like relying on bottled water -- OK in an emergency, but not good long term. My mobile plan gives me 30GB, and that goes everywhere I do. When I signed up it was unlimited. Other unlimited plans available locally are another $20/month. but then they are also over 2x as fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 I know what I'd do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 How many years would this take download on dial up? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 This is just one of the reasons I still tend to prefer physical media.Be careful. Some recent Switch releases had mandatory "large" day one downloads... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mord Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Be careful. Some recent Switch releases had mandatory "large" day one downloads... Yeah, I saw'em. Luckily nothing I'm interested in thus far. I suspect if I do get hit with a massive download (ie the rest of the game) after buying a physical copy, I'll just add the dev to my little boycott list to reduce the chance of it happening again. I'll definitely notice it if the massive download is in fact the rest of the game since I typically have my switch out of the dock, and I use a wired connection for the internet with the switch. So if I buy a physical cart and pop it in to play and it refuses to do so until it downloads a "patch", it's a pretty big giveaway. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mord Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 How many years would this take download on dial up? I've seen people take about 8-10hrs to download about 150megs or so on dialup. So do the math from there as a guestimate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 I've seen people take about 8-10hrs to download about 150megs or so on dialup. So do the math from there as a guestimate.56kbps = 7 kb (kiliobytes per second) as an absolute maximum but it's more like 6kbps practical. That's 360 kilobytes per minute, 21 megabytes per hour, ~500 megabytes per day, 180 gigabytes per year. So about six months to download middle earth, time you could have spent playing... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Does anyone (literally anyone) use dialup in these modern times? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mord Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Does anyone (literally anyone) use dialup in these modern times? I suppose I could ask my friend if he still refuses to upgrade to cable but I haven't seen him online in a couple years. (Unless the internet just lags him out too much to get an email out nowadays. ) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesD Posted October 21, 2017 Author Share Posted October 21, 2017 Imagine what that would cost in Compu$erve dollars. You paid by the hour. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 I suppose I could ask my friend if he still refuses to upgrade to cable but I haven't seen him online in a couple years. (Unless the internet just lags him out too much to get an email out nowadays. )I hope it's free at least. Paying any amount of real money for dialup in this decade seems ...like a poor value. I'd rather go cellular only than even use (let alone pay for) dialup. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mord Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 56kbps = 7 kb (kiliobytes per second) as an absolute maximum but it's more like 6kbps practical. That's 360 kilobytes per minute, 21 megabytes per hour, ~500 megabytes per day, 180 gigabytes per year. So about six months to download middle earth, time you could have spent playing... In other words, for some modern triple-A games, you'd finish downloading it just in time for the servers to go offline? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punisher5.0 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 56kbps = 7 kb (kiliobytes per second) as an absolute maximum but it's more like 6kbps practical. That's 360 kilobytes per minute, 21 megabytes per hour, ~500 megabytes per day, 180 gigabytes per year. So about six months to download middle earth, time you could have spent playing... As a kid I remember 3kb a second being the norm on a 56k modem. At least where I lived was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 That sounds about right. I remember downloading the Diablo demo (~40MB) and the Wing Commander Prophecy episodic expansions (~60MB) and letting the connection run all night. That would take a fraction of a second nowadays. I throw money at Verizon for the max speed I can get, but that 97.7GB download would still take almost half an hour. That's par for the course for modern games though ... everything is full of uncompressed, high quality textures and sounds nowadays. Bloat city. At least hard disk space is cheap now. This is one reason I love mobile and browser games that are made to run in a more modest environment. I get just as much or more pleasure out of the goofy grinds in AdventureQuest 3D, Game of Thrones Conquest, Arcane Legends (to name just a few) that I would from the massive game in the top post. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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