flashjazzcat Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Exactly: throw it in the bin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted October 22, 2017 Author Share Posted October 22, 2017 Nope, the metal toggle on the switch will not move at all. Ok it wasn't just me then. Good to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Level42 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 (edited) Nope, the metal toggle on the switch will not move at all. Thats what I thought on mine.....but its impossible to move by hand because the metal "arm" of the switch is too short to move it by hand.....it needs the plastic part......when I put it back it worked just fine.....O, well...whatever its just a switch Edited October 22, 2017 by Level42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafivehole Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 UPDATE: I finally got my switches from jolly ol' England today. I put the new one in and it works like a champ All (320K) memory tests good too... Thank you, Roger 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted November 5, 2017 Author Share Posted November 5, 2017 Glad to hear it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banquo Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 (edited) I got a new in box 65XE about a month ago and the switch on it was also not great. At first it wouldn't budge and I had to press really hard to get it to come on. It loosened up a little after a while but it's still difficult to turn off and on. Sounds like they used really poor quality switches in these things. Edited November 29, 2017 by Banquo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nezgar Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 I got 5 of the power switches from the UK guy on ebay, ( https://www.ebay.com/itm/152091366689) worked out to about $2 canadian per switch.. now I can fix a few others in the future if i come across another case of stuck switchitus. According the the listing title, I guess the original 520 ST uses the same type of switch too. Little paper in with my order points to http://st-freakz.co.uk/for a better price than through ebay... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Level42 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 (edited) I got a new in box 65XE about a month ago and the switch on it was also not great. At first it wouldn't budge and I had to press really hard to get it to come on. It loosened up a little after a while but it's still difficult to turn off and on. Sounds like they used really poor quality switches in these things. Actually they are fine quality. You bought a NIB 65XE of about 25 years old and that switch hasn't been switched ONCE in 25 years and you expect it to work flawlessly......?? I haven't come across a bad working one yet. The one that "failed" on me merely needed it's cap to be reseated properly again. I guess that happens pretty often especially if machines are opened (it happened when I was working on my 800XL). One tip: 25+ year old electrolytic capacitors don't like sitting around and having done nothing either....it would be wise to check them if you have a decent ESR meter, or else swap them with good quality new ones. Like switches, caps like exercise to stay healthy... Edited November 30, 2017 by Level42 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banquo Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 (edited) Actually they are fine quality. You bought a NIB 65XE of about 25 years old and that switch hasn't been switched ONCE in 25 years and you expect it to work flawlessly......?? It was just an observation, I've never had any problems with switches on my other old computers and I've read about a lot of problems with the XE switches so I was just saying it sounds like they used cheaper quality switches. I didn't mean to sound stupid or offend anyone. Nevermind, sorry I even posted. Edited December 12, 2017 by Banquo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle22 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Once you get the switch to work, you should power up the computer to make sure it works. If Id does, LEAVE the power on at least for a day or two. The capacitors can reform themselves. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amiman99 Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 Does anyone in the US has one of those switches for sale? I need one pronto. I want to fix someones Atari 800. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geister Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 How about this? https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/c-k/E101J1AV2BE2/CKN2071-ND/484025 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nezgar Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 How about this? https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/c-k/E101J1AV2BE2/CKN2071-ND/484025 that's the vertical one good for 600xl/800xl/65xe/130xe. Maybe digikey also also has the horizontal/side mount variant, used in the 800, 810, 1050 Edit: Found it: https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/c-k/7101J1ABE2/CKN2004-ND/67002(Man digikey's site sucks balls on mobile!) Also just looked in a 1050, its the exact model in there. I presume its the same in the 800. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nezgar Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 Found on ebay using "c&k 7101 rocker right angle" https://www.ebay.com/itm/253477650186 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amiman99 Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 Found on ebay using "c&k 7101 rocker right angle" https://www.ebay.com/itm/253477650186 That's a wrong angle. I know that digikey has them, but at $8 little too much plus shipping I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amiman99 Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 How about this? https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/c-k/E101J1AV2BE2/CKN2071-ND/484025 Yes, it's the correct one, but I would like to get it cheaper. It's for someone else, so I wanted to get it cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nezgar Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 That's a wrong angle. I know that digikey has them, but at $8 little too much plus shipping I think. Uh... you said 800, which has a horizontal/right angle switch, did you mean an 800XL which is vertical? Vertical one on ebay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/232910571063 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amiman99 Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 Uh... you said 800, which has a horizontal/right angle switch, did you mean an 800XL which is vertical? Vertical one on ebay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/232910571063 Yes, it is 800xl, and thanks for the link, I will get it right now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrbrevin Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 i used an "st-freakz" switch in one of my 1050s, i just had to un-bend and then re-bend the 3 legs to suit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjlazer Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 (edited) I had mint hardly used 130XE in the box I pulled out to use recently. Switch was seized and would not move. Tried to free it with some Deox It F5 and the switch took a lot to loosen up but it ended up breaking in the end. Ordered some switches from Digikey ($8 each!) and swapped it out. Looks like a perfect replacement switch. Some look similar but might not fit right, notice the two legs at the front. Some have them shifting front or back. Might be able to get it to work, but I didn't want to take a chance. As you can see pin 2 didn't look too good and I tried to redo it. What a pain. I ended up heating it up too much trying to get the solder to go down more and must of lifted or destroyed the pad on the bottom side. So the solder doesn't want to stick to the pin and board on the bottom, but at least the pin is filled up well on the top side and makes good contact like the other pins do now.https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/c-k/7101J1AV2QE2/CKN2011-ND/272375 Edited December 15, 2018 by tjlazer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Robot Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 I'm putting a panel mount version of the same switch on my 1088xel. I'd miss the feel of it if it weren't there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 I remove the plastic push always first, then I put the cleaner in and work the metal pole... once free I snap the plastic rocker back on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karttu Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 (edited) On 12/15/2018 at 7:19 PM, tjlazer said: I had mint hardly used 130XE in the box I pulled out to use recently. Switch was seized and would not move. Tried to free it with some Deox It F5 and the switch took a lot to loosen up but it ended up breaking in the end. Ordered some switches from Digikey ($8 each!) and swapped it out. Looks like a perfect replacement switch. Some look similar but might not fit right, notice the two legs at the front. Some have them shifting front or back. Might be able to get it to work, but I didn't want to take a chance. https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/c-k/7101J1AV2QE2/CKN2011-ND/272375 For future reference, I ordered one from RS Online (Finland). With taxes it cost almost 10€, but it matches the original part exactly so maybe I don't mind. The product picture on RS is wrong, with SKU 155-8971 you will get 7101J1AV2QE2 which has three 90 degree bent legs and it's not the panel mount version. https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/rocker-switches/1558971/ Picture of the switch I received: Looking forward to getting my 130XE fixed... Edited April 30, 2020 by karttu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nezgar Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Good to hear, and good luck! I find you need crank the heat on the soldering iron a bit to free those lugs. I've replaced stuck power switches on 3 65/130XE's now... The temp fix until I acquired replacement switches was I soldered the switch to be 'Always On' - so my 'switch' was un-plugging/plugging in the power cord. One of the most gratifying repairs. One of my "bad" switches, and replacement just prior to re-soldering... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StickJock Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 I had the same problem with the switch on my 130XE. I had packed it up around 1990, so it was nearly 30 years without moving. I ordered an exact replacement switch for $2.50 from Brad at Best Electronics, along with a new keyboard membrane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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