EPOCH/YENO SUPER CASSETTE VISION

[imstarryeyed]

It was not too difficult cable to build but very rewarding once it was done.

[CatPix]

Well If I remember, it's just direct wiring? No resistors or caps?

I haven't looked in, I got mine with the original (French) pwoer supply and video cable.

But it shouldn't be a complex cable anyway.

[carlsson]

Yup, straight cable once you get the pinout correct. I seem to recall I mirrored it at first and got nothing, but once I got shadows of moving balloons, I knew I was on the right path. I also realized the 5V comes handy with a resistor to enable SCART devices into RGB mode automatically, which was an mod I made at a second session.

[pacman000]

 

O_o

 

From the video's description, translated from Japanese via Google Translate:

 

 

I wanted to move something like "super shot 68K" with super cassette vision (no sound)
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Since there is no real machine environment, I recorded what I emulated with eSCV.exe.
Since it is not possible to confirm the actual machine, it is unconfirmed whether it will work on actual machine.
It is based on a 32kB + 8k SRAM cartridge.

Not actual hardware, but impressive. I wonder if it would really work on a real SCV...

Edited January 6, 2018 by pacman000

[Yosikuma]

I actually just picked up a Super Cassette Vision. I sadly just have the RF conenctor; where does one procure a SCART cable??

 

If anyone knows of places to procure games, please let me know!

[CatPix]

Look for japanese sellers on eBay, or Yahoo Japan. Japanese gamers are not really interested in the SCV, so you can find at least the most common games for cheap (minus shipping).

The SCART cable is very simple to make, if you have minimal soldering skills.

 

Wired to the following Specs:

 

8 Pin DIN plug (looking into back of connector)

 

--7-----6

3----8---1

---5---4

-----2

 

1 +5 volts

2 GND

3 Mono Audio

4 CSYNC

5 --

6 red

7 green

8 blue

 

If you don't wanna bother, there is a ready-made one here :

https://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/EPOCH-SUPER-CASSETTE-VISION-RGB-SCART-CABLE

But it's expensive. Buying a SCART plug, a DIN plug and getting a 6 wires cable from some A/V device should cost you much less.

 

A good plan is to buy a cheap SCART cable (like that one : https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/2M-for-PS2-RGB-SCART-Cable-TV-AV-Lead-for-Playstation-PS1-PS2-PS3-Slim-Line/32752333650.html?src=google&albslr=220687172&isdl=y&aff_short_key=UneMJZVf&source={ifdyn:dyn}{ifpla:pla}{ifdbm:DBM&albch=DID}&src=google&albch=shopping&acnt=494-037-6276&isdl=y&albcp=653151748&albag=36672819047&slnk=&trgt=68416666751&plac=&crea=fr32752333650&netw=g&device=c&mtctp=&gclid=Cj0KCQjwqYfWBRDPARIsABjQRYw-VKuA7ew__1PcFER8gfn6wUQGxnnZB1kplKU-ioETMIwpFs68DX8aAqDdEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds )

snap the Playstation tip, and wire the DIN cable. The longer part will be to identify each wire.

Edited April 2, 2018 by CatPix

[carlsson]

Ouch! Why is a C64 S-video cable £9.59 while a SCV RGB cable is £29.99 that uses nearly the exact same components, perhaps a few more wires and perhaps a diode or resistor to utilize the 5V for RGB switching mode?

[CatPix]

Offer and demand. It's why I do that; I find a supplier of RGB cables for GameCube or Playstation (for some reason, they are the cheapest) and use them for anything with DIN or other standard conenctor RGB system.

It saves me time and the price for a SCART plug and cable is about the same than getting those cables.

Advantage, some of those cheap cables are correctly wired, with a resistor between the +12/+5volts and the 3V pins.

So it's just a matter of identifiying the corresponding wires.

[carlsson]

I saw the SCV cable is part of a special product category for extra high quality cables, where all of them are priced much higher than the regular cables so perhaps it explains the difference. Not that one would need extra high quality for the SCV. I built my cable from leftover parts, and usually pick up my SCART cables at the goodwill for 10 SEK each, though I understand that is not an option in places where SCART never became big. But yes, if you cut one of those cables open, it is a myriad of small wires to identify. Sometimes I try to carefully open up one of the SCART connector ends and going by a pinout diagram, identify one wire at a time instead of going round robin among all of them.

[S1500]

I was in Japan recently, and wanted to take home a SCV so bad. I just couldn't justify spending $200 on a boxed one. I think the lowest I saw was 168.I spent so little over the week I was there, I could have bought one, but the games individually were crazy high priced. I think one(DragonBall Z) was 100 bucks, and loose carts weren't that much better for pricing.

 

But hey, I made it a fun side mission on my trip to find out all the Cassette Visions(a few not for sale) and SCVs I could find around the Osaka area.

[+stupus]

If that dragonball was boxed $100 was a steal. It's the most pricey game and can command upwards of $300

[carlsson]

It appears to me that prices even for the most common games have increased on eBay lately. Perhaps that is a given, since everything else in the world of vintage gaming and computing is increasing exponentially, and why would the SCV be an exception? Still, keep trying eBay as every now and then you might find a system and games someone else forgets to bid on.

 

I would imagine specialized games stores, irregardless if they're in Japan or elsewhere, always will be the most expensive places to buy stuff as they (1) know exactly what they're selling, (2) know what the items would cost elsewhere and (3) run the business to make profit. Frankly I don't understand the regular question on forums about "I am going to city XYZ, can anyone recommend stores for used games?" in the hope they'll score some great deals there. Same goes about any other form of antiques, designer furniture etc. Usually you don't get the best prices in a specialized store, though they may have the biggest selection of course if you're willing to pay premium for that.

[CatPix]

I saw the SCV cable is part of a special product category for extra high quality cables, where all of them are priced much higher than the regular cables so perhaps it explains the difference. Not that one would need extra high quality for the SCV. I built my cable from leftover parts, and usually pick up my SCART cables at the goodwill for 10 SEK each, though I understand that is not an option in places where SCART never became big. But yes, if you cut one of those cables open, it is a myriad of small wires to identify. Sometimes I try to carefully open up one of the SCART connector ends and going by a pinout diagram, identify one wire at a time instead of going round robin among all of them.

It's what I do, yes. Usually the cheap PS cables have only the needed number of wires, so you open th SCART shell and follow where the cables go. IT's useful to take a look as almost every time, the grounds aren't linked together, which can lead to a noisy picture.

[Yosikuma]

Oh if I had any wiring skills whatsoever I would make a SCART cable but alas, those are nonexistent for me!

 

I saw someone mentioning the idea of a flash cart one day for the system. Is there someone actually working on this, or is it just wishful thinking?

[carlsson]

I've got no idea what they're doing in Japan, but elsewhere I believe it's only a suggestion so far.

[Rolo]

Not a complete new topic, but might still be helpful:

 

Another SCART- cable for SUPER CASSETTE VISION

 

The information seems to be somewhat scattered around the place, so here again. I just made a SCART-cable for my new SCV.

This is how I made it. Maybe you need one, too.

It's working.

[S1500]

What are my chances of finding a (Super or not) Cassette Vision in Taiwan without charging an arm and a leg? I'm going there next January.

[carlsson]

I don't know if the SCV was exported to Taiwan. I would think you are more likely to find one in Japan or possibly France.

[imstarryeyed]

The SCV has been crazy expensive lately. I say try Yahoo auctions japan and see if you can find one not so expensive.

 

Took me a while but I finally got all of the games... I am just missing Shogi Nyuumon (The Shogi Japanese style chess game). I however do not know how to play it so I did not really want it.

 

Here is a pic of most of my games I have been saving, this pic is missing a few but still pretty close.

 

This collection took me a little over 3 years to find ... the hardest ones for me to find were Mappy, Pole Position II, Skykid, BASIC, Ton Ton Ball, Dragon Ball, Wai Wai Monster Land, Dragon Slayer and Nebula. The rest were not so bad.

 

Unfortunately this system has become quite expensive to collect for but if you use a Japan Auction Handler for Yahoo Japan Auctions, you can often find a decent deal on some of these.

 

Good Luck and let me know if you all have any questions.

 

 

[carlsson]

Is it really "quite expensive", or just that it has climbed from being one of the cheapest to collect, to roughly what people pay for far more common formats like the entire Nintendo or even Sega lot? I'm only getting the common carts, hesitate to pay more than $15 + shipping for a CIB cartridge, which would be fairly low regarding most systems.

[+stupus]

Hey I'm starryeyed.....if your not after cib and you have a skykid manual I will give you a good price for it.

It's the only piece left I need to finish my cib set

Thanks and nice collection!

[S1500]

I remember in Kyoto seeing a DragonBall Z cartridge for 9800 yen. Yes, it was OVER 9000!

[Rolo]

Can anybody do me a favor and measure the dimensions of the SCV-door, please. Mine is door-less and maybe I'll make some kind of cover for it. Maybe of thin sheet metal. Some photos would be great, too. What does the snap lock look like?

Thanks!

Rolo

[carlsson]

You mean the lid made from smoked plastic that goes over the controllers? I might open up my boxed console and measure. The loose one also is lacking the lid, though it doesn't bother me very much.

[Rolo]

Exactly. Obviously it broke and fell off easily? Well, it's not urgent. I might make a new one, but maybe not. I don't know. Just came to my mind.