How much value do you think a composite mod adds to a 2600?

[icemanxp300]

Just curious. I found an Atari in my garage and it works perfectly. A year or two ago I did a composite mod on an Atari that had a bad rf. Overall it isn't too hard and actually you don't even need a board. You can put the resistors on the pcb and just swap the transistor w/some minor trace cutting. I would have to look at the pcb again for fine details.

 

Just wondering if it is really worth my time to buy the parts and mod this or just sell w/rf.

[ls650]

Honestly, not much. If you modded a system, how do I know how well the work was done?

[icemanxp300]

Honestly, not much. If you modded a system, how do I know how well the work was done?

 

Ummm Pictures? Not sure what you are getting at, you think I'm a hack or some shit?

[ls650]

My comment isn't directed at you in particular, so don't take it personally.

 

If I see someone advertising a modded system on eBay or wherever, how do I know if the mod was properly done? I don't think a few carefully angled photos are going to tell the story.

 

Just MHO, but I don't think advertising that a system has been modded adds any value to a given system. YMMV.

[x=usr(1536)]

 

Ummm Pictures? Not sure what you are getting at, you think I'm a hack or some shit?

 

Hey, you asked for opinions and he wasn't attacking you. It's a valid point where any modifications are concerned: pictures can't completely show how well the mod works in actuality, or if components are in proper working order.

 

Realistically, though, if it were me, the value-add would be zero. Sure, the convenience factor is there, but the machine is no longer original, and that's more important to me than using it on a 60" plasma LCD. If I want to do that, I'll feed it out through a VCR and get the same end result without having to alter it.

 

Someone else may feel differently. There's a good chance that you're going to get answers from all ends of the spectrum on this depending on whether someone wants something in original or modified condition.

Edited January 17, 2018 by x=usr(1536)

[Keatah]

Probably not much. I also strongly prefer to do the work myself. It's fun! And it's possible to mod with no case drilling or cutting, thus it's totally revertable to stock.

Edited January 17, 2018 by Keatah

[SignGuy81]

I disagree with the others in that I've seen the modded systems sell for more so it must add value. Even adding an LED somehow increases the value.

[+KaeruYojimbo]

Personally it wouldn't increase the value much for me, but there are people out there who put a premium on it if it's quality work. If I were going to by a modded system I'd want some sort of guaranty just because there's such so much variance in the quality of the mods out there.

[icemanxp300]

You guys do realize I am talking about modding my own system and posting pics of it. You can see all the quality you want. These responses are not really making much sense unless you think I am going to rub the circuit board into carpet while I'm working on it? maybe dump some coke on while I'm working?

[x=usr(1536)]

I disagree with the others in that I've seen the modded systems sell for more so it must add value. Even adding an LED somehow increases the value.

 

True, and I've seen the same thing.

 

My gut feeling is that modified systems tend to go for more if the buyer is looking for something plug & play and doesn't want to undertake the work themselves. And that's fair; I get that not everyone wants to break out the soldering iron.

 

With that said, it's really going to depend on the buyer. To me, going through the motions of AV modding a console to make an extra however much on the sale isn't really worth it because I'd rather spend my time doing something else, but if someone else feels differently, that's fine by me.

[x=usr(1536)]

You guys do realize I am talking about modding my own system and posting pics of it. You can see all the quality you want. These responses are not really making much sense unless you think I am going to rub the circuit board into carpet while I'm working on it? maybe dump some coke on while I'm working?

 

Okay, I'm confused. Earlier in the thread, you said:

 

Just curious. I found an Atari in my garage and it works perfectly. A year or two ago I did a composite mod on an Atari that had a bad rf. Overall it isn't too hard and actually you don't even need a board. You can put the resistors on the pcb and just swap the transistor w/some minor trace cutting. I would have to look at the pcb again for fine details.

 

Just wondering if it is really worth my time to buy the parts and mod this or just sell w/rf.

 

So, in light of where you ask as to whether or not you should mod it or sell it just with the RF adapter... What question should we have answered instead?

[icemanxp300]

What question should we have answered instead?

 

The value of the mod was the question I was asking, it seems many say none and that's fine.

 

My last comment was wondering what quality are some of the people here talking about? It appears producing a system that works and looks good is not enough for some of the people in here. It's almost like they are saying they want a detailed video of the mod work being done lol.

 

 

Honestly, not much. If you modded a system, how do I know how well the work was done?

 

I'd want some sort of guaranty just because there's such so much variance in the quality of the mods out there.

 

What are all these variances in popping two resistors and 1 transistor on the pcb and drilling 3 holes in the casing? Oh yeah don't forget removal of rf box.

[CPUWIZ]

[icemanxp300]

 

 

Please by all means if you have something to say, say it. I'm obviously missing something here.

[CPUWIZ]

Nothing, threads like this blow my mind. Carry on.

[CRTGAMER]

Though I prefer a CRT, the Composite mod a smart move to make it PlugNPlay compatible with modern HDTVs, at least the majority that still have a composite input. The RF will not work with HDTV digital tuners, that could be a sale poit to mention.

[icemanxp300]

Yeah but it appears this mod doesn't have much value anyhow unless it's by someone special then maybe their magical grace adds some value to it.

[Osgeld]

Just curious. I found an Atari in my garage and it works perfectly. A year or two ago I did a composite mod on an Atari that had a bad rf. Overall it isn't too hard and actually you don't even need a board. You can put the resistors on the pcb and just swap the transistor w/some minor trace cutting. I would have to look at the pcb again for fine details.

 

Just wondering if it is really worth my time to buy the parts and mod this or just sell w/rf.

 

I would pay up to 30$ shipped for a 2600 without a mod with a good case and working (console only btw)

 

I would pay 10$ shipped for one of those shitty ass "change a couple resistors and I scavanged a transistor from an alarm clock" mods

 

I sell composite modded 2600's for 60$ shipped here and 60$ + shipping on ebay for units containing a proper video driver - buffer - filter circuit + stereo mod + power LED, and have only ever received 4 complaints in the 5 years I have been doing it ... and there for about 3 years I was churning one out per week

 

if you want I will send you one of my mod boards if you want to hook me up with a working nes common since we are bro's ... its like 3 wires to hook up

Edited January 17, 2018 by Osgeld

[CRTGAMER]

There is some merit on concerns if a mod has good solder connections due to not personally knowing the seller. I bought a modded Xbox that I had to resolder a couple loose jumper wires to tiny pads on the PCB. However, the 2600 mod not as tricky with larger solder points so not as critical as say a mod chip install.

 

Based on cost of mod around ten bucks plus time will depend on buyer preference. Some collectors will want unmodded original then discover the RF only console will not work on their modern digital tuner HDTV. A point to bring up to justify the added cost for the composite modded console. There is also the competition factor of the brand new Atari 80 game composite Flashbacks already on the market for around fifty bucks. Yes, an original Atari will have the edge over emulation, but the 2600 AT Games console pretty decent. You just have to win a buyer over the fact that the original 2600 has the capability of plugging in all the 2600 game carts.

 

My Atari $10 7800 Composite Mod - http://www.racketboy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=33076&p=1078108#p1078108

 

Portable and PlugNPlay Game Guide - http://www.racketboy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=481526#p481526

Edited January 17, 2018 by CRTGAMER

[icemanxp300]

Well just for the hell of it. This is the system I modded before. I'm sure you guys can knock it pretty good but whatever. It was a kit off ebay, so no I didn't scavage parts. I didn't pop any traces w/ a screwdriver. I didn't cut any resistors and push them out of my way just to solder the cut back together. I as well didn't take someone $$ for 6 months and not send them what they paid for.

 

Yes I did use a pre-made board kit but the pcb is so basic You really don't need it. You could remove the old transistor and pop in the new one and make sure the traces get rerouted correctly. There is a free spot to mount one of the resistors where the rf is removed and you can pop the other resistor to the one you are suppose to remove, hell that resistor might already be the right size so you could just re-route it. Some wires can even be eliminated by not using an external pcb.

 

What's messier, taking a small pcb and hot gluing it to the board or simply mounting the 3 components needed to the board (2 of which already has spots for them)? I am inclined to believe avoid the hot glue mess personally.

 

 

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