GDMike Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 (edited) Found the bug...it wasn't my code, but was my BL @ As I was branching to cpywd instead of BL @ cpywrd...oh my my.. but yet it was somehow making it to my subprogram cpywrd? I call that a leak. and as lee predicted, as I can read minds, user error again. ..lol Edited February 13, 2020 by GDMike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOME AUTOMATION Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 16 minutes ago, GDMike said: I call that a leak. I've always thought of it as an "excursion", facilitated by the 9900 CPU's, DUNNO... ignore and keep going policy. P.S. Glad to see you're keeping at it! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDMike Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Yup, when I said, this doesn't make sense, start over and that's when I found typo...in my BL. Maybe I should distance my label spelling...hmm But that's like branching to 101 instead of 110. I'd still mess it up.. how about maybe getting more rest at night.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOME AUTOMATION Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Ha!Ha! Earlier on, I was going to say... maybe more sleep, but didn't want to risk, ticking a tired person off! Work-a-holic types, like us, have all been there... Next up: Branching 101 Alex. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDMike Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Yup.. program is kicking rt Along now...but time to feed the kids... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDMike Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Ok, that command is complete...duh..took me long enough. VID_20200214_064835897.mp4 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDMike Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) Update: now there's an option, use SuperNotes cartridge (32K SRAM) or Use 32K memory expansion. I'll try to make an option that utilizes both at once. The SRAM cart allows 9 pages for the user as storage while maintaining the SNE program inside the cart too along with menu and the utils. The memory expansion, PRO version I call it, allows for 17 pages of storage for the user. But unlike the cartridge, the memory expansion data goes away when you turn off the computer. I will make an option to allow both to work giving the user 26 pages of data storage (860 bytes per page). Then I gotta make it read/write to DSK, print and a SAMS version... Someday... VID_20200220_191914428.mp4 Edited February 21, 2020 by GDMike 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_gw454 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Big shoutout to GDMike who helped get SUPERNOTES running on my TI. It looks like I needed a bit of help with the Editor/Assembler steps. Great progress so far -- looking forward to more. Thank you! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDMike Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Here's the latest SNP ... with some bug fixes. This has a working option for utilizing the expanded 32K memory. The program asks the user if the intent is for 1.) super notes express cartridge or 2.) Using to 32K memory expansion If it's for 32K,(I call 32K pro), then 17 pages are init in lower/Upper, and in-between - anywhere I can squeeze a page... Then the program is released to the user. SAMS version on the horizon.. still WIP Well for some Reason my paperclip says loading and I haven't touched it..so the program will be on the next submitted page.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDMike Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 (edited) Options 1-2 work Just remember, option 1 if you have a formatted SNE cart. DSKA0052.dsk EA option 3, load SNP, run SNP as program name. Edited February 22, 2020 by GDMike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDMike Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 (edited) New key made: Import SuperNotes pages 1-9 from cart and places it at pages 1-9 in 32K expansion memory. This way you can pull that SuperNotes Express data while in the PRO version. Ctrl I is the new key. VID_20200221_200032288.mp4 Edited February 23, 2020 by GDMike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDMike Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 I'm looking for a better idea than what I have for a long delay routine... I'm just incrementing a few Registers until I get my desired outcome, but it takes quite a few of those to do that..so I started throwing in a VSBR routine to help my delay time...it helps but again takes a few of these. My delay should be a 2 second delay. I'm throwing in everything, NOPs, inct R3 then a dec R3... just to try to stall for time.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asmusr Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 1 hour ago, GDMike said: I'm looking for a better idea than what I have for a long delay routine... I'm just incrementing a few Registers until I get my desired outcome, but it takes quite a few of those to do that..so I started throwing in a VSBR routine to help my delay time...it helps but again takes a few of these. My delay should be a 2 second delay. I'm throwing in everything, NOPs, inct R3 then a dec R3... just to try to stall for time.. You could wait for 120 VDP interrupts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDMike Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Asmusr said: You could wait for 120 VDP interrupts. Yeah, opa suggested using vdp int...thx Edited February 25, 2020 by GDMike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOME AUTOMATION Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 This is what I use... DLY1 LI R8,2 DLYR LI R9,>CCCC DLY DEC R9 JNE DLY DEC R8 JNE DLYR RT Here's a working example... DEF PRTSLW REF VMBW HAL TEXT 'HI I AM A HAL9000 COMPUTER' PRTSLW LI R0,0 LI R1,HAL LI R2,1 NEXT BLWP @VMBW BL @DLY1 INC R0 INC R1 JMP NEXT DLY1 LI R8,2 DLYR LI R9,>CCCC DLY DEC R9 JNE DLY DEC R8 JNE DLYR RT END R9=1/2 sec. approx. R8=number of half secs. HA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDMike Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 (edited) Good, I like this. short and simple.. I think my loop is getting lost somehow in the BL @dly that I created.. as I have a stack of ci >FFFE inc R3 jump to another delay like this over and over about 10 times and my program zips rt through all of em. I can tell they work a little but I'm not even delayed 1 full second..so something is so wrong..but I'll try yours. Thank you. Edited February 26, 2020 by GDMike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOME AUTOMATION Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 This is a little trickier to implement, but uses no registers! DEF PRTSLW REF VMBW AORG >A000 DATA 2 DATA >7777 DATA 0 DATA 0 DLY1 MOV @>A000,@>A004 DLYR MOV @>A002,@>A006 DLY DEC @>A006 JNE DLY DEC @>A004 JNE DLYR RT HAL TEXT ' HI I AM A HAL-9000 COMPUTER' PRTSLW LI R0,0 LI R1,HAL LI R2,1 NEXT BLWP @VMBW BL @DLY1 INC R0 INC R1 JMP NEXT END 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDMike Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 (edited) Wow, I didn't know you could do that Edited February 26, 2020 by GDMike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDMike Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 (edited) I thought you always had to have a C, or CI prior to a jump Condition. Hmm But I see how the status changed.. Edited February 26, 2020 by GDMike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOME AUTOMATION Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Yes, DEC always self-compares it's own results to zero! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOME AUTOMATION Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 (edited) Come to think of it... I suppose I could have used labels on all the DATA directives, as well as in the MOVs and DECs, instead of AORG and absolute addresses. Edited February 26, 2020 by HOME AUTOMATION Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDMike Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 In not sure, but maybe the labels would take a byte or two of memory if used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TheBF Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 36 minutes ago, GDMike said: In not sure, but maybe the labels would take a byte or two of memory if used. Not sure if this helps, but I think of Assembly labels with DATA directives or BYTE directives, as "variables". So you are correct. A label with a DATA directive allocates(reserves) 2 bytes of memory for storing data. Since you know some Forth this is what the word VARIABLE does in Forth as well when you compile your programs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOME AUTOMATION Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 (edited) Labels do take up space, but in the source code only. All labels are resolved by the assembler, which replaces them with the required addresses, and should produce exactly the same object code, as would using absolute addresses in your source code. Since you can chain the source files together, up to 8K each, memory use isn't really an issue. Although personally, I've only come close to producing an 8k source file, instead loading separate smaller object files manually. I'll try and produce the labeled version, a little later, if time permits ...sometimes I wonder. I started learning assy. around 1998. I only had MINIMEMORY and LINE by LINE ASSEMBLER the first year. I managed to learn a lot, without ever using or understanding the use of labels. Hence, I still often think of using absolute addresses first. It would seem to be more difficult to understand using these addresses from EDITOR/ASSEMBLER, because you can't see the addresses used, until and unless you produce a LIST file during assembly. Even after receiving the EDITOR/ASSEMBLER package, it was another leap(for me) to learn how labels worked at all. I imagine the reverse is true for most assembly programmers! Edited February 26, 2020 by HOME AUTOMATION 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Lee Stewart Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 2 hours ago, GDMike said: In not sure, but maybe the labels would take a byte or two of memory if used. As indicated by @HOME AUTOMATION, labels, in and of themselves, take no memory whatsoever in the object code. A label is a convenience for the ALC programmer, whereby the Assembler assigns the current value of the location counter (absolute or relocatable) to the label, which can be used by the programmer as a symbolic address elsewhere in the program. Similarly, using EQUate directives to define symbolic addresses also does not take any object code memory. ...lee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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