negative1 Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 In one of their early videos, you could see some bartop cabinets off to the side. Q*bert, Joust, and one other one. Someone asked them about it on their FB page and they said they were prototypes for a new line in 2019. it was dig-dug. later -1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negative1 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 (edited) it has begun... i've started my Arcade 1up mods. 1st test up - Xbox one vertical games only ================== Pac-Man Ms. Pac-Man Galaga Dig Dug [Raiden - various ones later on] Colors are much better when viewed head-on, and there is no distortion [although it's in the video] Sound is coming off stereo speakers also. Also, the shiny reflection is off the control panel protector, which made in 4 weeks as promised. No complaints there. I don't like the plastic feel, so i'm debating about what to do with it. Might just stick with a soft wrist wrest (computer one) instead. goals =============================== multiple inputs 1) xbox one [HDMI] 2) xbox 360 [VGA->DVI] 3) pc with MAME/other emulators, games [VGA] controls =============== 1) stock 2) usb add-ons [trackball, spinner, joysticks] audio ================= 1) full stereo sound [optional subwoofer later on] video =============== 1) will replace monitor 2) LCD marquee [parts ordered] 3) Possible switch to modified stock board [not sure] so far, i have the LCD controller: ---------------------------------- https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07JCQCQH6/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Currently, there are marquees around them that can't be removed. Once I get more equipment, I will add more notes to it. later -1 Edited December 23, 2018 by negative1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goochman Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 If you want to customize it yourself, and have an extra TV and computer around, the starting point is that : $550 https://www.microcenter.com/product/513956/retro-arcade-2-player-stand-up-cabinet---unassembled PRODUCT INFORMATION SKU 847343 Mfr Part# MCLGC-001 UPC GENERAL Type Stand Up Cabinet Kit GENERAL SPECIFICATIONS Color Black PHYSICAL SPECIFICATIONS Width 32.00 in. (812.80 mm) Depth 32.00 in. (812.80 mm) Height 70.00 in. (1778.00 mm) Weight 120.00 lbs. (54.43 kg) PACKAGE CONTENTS What's in the Box All the wood and acrylic panels to assemble a Stand Up Arcade Cabinet. ======================================================================== So it's 120 pounds to start off, and add the weight of a TV, controls etc, it shouldn't be more than 150 or so, so that shouldn't be a problem for 2 people. If people are buying multiple arcade 1up's, then putting in 1 of these shouldn't be a problem. Also, you're getting much higher quality too. And for people that were modding their machines, they are putting in all new controls anyways. so $550 + monitor + pi/computer + sound + controls (buttons/joysticks/wires)+ graphics (side/control panel/t molding) = final cost i'm pretty sure that's under $1000 if you don't go overboard on everything. they even sell all the other components separately there also. later -1 No controls and such is a no deal for me. I could figure out the monitor and PI, but Im no expert on the controller/buttons thing. $600 out the door for all pieces one would be my price point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+GoldenWheels Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Got my 12-in-1 yesterday...built it before the niece/nephews came over in the afternoon....it was the hit of the day as my kids and my sister's kids jostled for position in line for over an hour. (Personally I had a ton of fun playing Lunar Lander later after a few beers/wine...) The spinner is pretty stinky, as advertised. The main fire button is, also, pretty stinky. I'm more bothered by the fact that small dust particles are already starting to get inside my screen. And frankly....I think the arcade is too small without the riser, and looks kind of stupid WITH the riser. BUT....everybody had fun with it. Interestingly, with the entire control panel being a drop in/plug and play unit...I wonder if anyone will offer a service for doing upgrades...or even create a new drop in with better parts? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negative1 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 No controls and such is a no deal for me. I could figure out the monitor and PI, but Im no expert on the controller/buttons thing. $600 out the door for all pieces one would be my price point putting together the controls, and wiring is the easy part for me. it's the pi stuff that's crazy and iffy, unless you know what you're doing. go figure. all you have to do is find someone to do it. i watched the putting it together video, and it was pretty simple it seemed: it might be intimidating at first, but after you wire up one control, its the same thing over and over again. later -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negative1 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Got my 12-in-1 yesterday...built it before the niece/nephews came over in the afternoon....it was the hit of the day as my kids and my sister's kids jostled for position in line for over an hour. (Personally I had a ton of fun playing Lunar Lander later after a few beers/wine...) The spinner is pretty stinky, as advertised. The main fire button is, also, pretty stinky. I'm more bothered by the fact that small dust particles are already starting to get inside my screen. And frankly....I think the arcade is too small without the riser, and looks kind of stupid WITH the riser. BUT....everybody had fun with it. Interestingly, with the entire control panel being a drop in/plug and play unit...I wonder if anyone will offer a service for doing upgrades...or even create a new drop in with better parts? its cheap enough to replace the joysticks and buttons by yourself. the spinner and the trackball would be harder. most people are just doing it themselves, since the parts are easily replaceable. later -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+GoldenWheels Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 its cheap enough to replace the joysticks and buttons by yourself. the spinner and the trackball would be harder. most people are just doing it themselves, since the parts are easily replaceable. later -1 Yeah if I had the SF2 one or something...I'd already have the parts ordered! The spinner/trackball unit is totally sealed from the bottom and I figured I better build the thing BEFORE I started tearing it apart to make it better, so I just got it working. But maybe next week... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE146 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 I got my 12-in-1 yesterday as well.. have yet to put it together. Looking forward to doing it today.. cheap trackball/spinner and all. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toaddio Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 all you have to do is find someone to do it. I found this site that puts it all together for you: www.arcade1up.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Stamos Mullet Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 I found this site that puts it all together for you: www.arcade1up.com yeah, but the quality is shite. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE146 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 All done! Had zero problems with mine.. everything is in top shape, no scratches etc. It also plays well and I had pretty good games of Centipede, Crystal Castles, and Tempest. Cheap feeling controls aside, it plays 100% fine! I have yet to try Quantum though as I figure it'd be a non-starter. We'll see. I'm thinking I'm probably leaving it 100% stock.. not modding the controls or anything. To me it's just not worth the effort.. yet. If the trackball or spinner response starts to deteriorate, then maybe I'd consider it. But again so far.. zero complaints. Although I will say it is a huge pain in the butt taking off the stickers off the control panel protector. We almost came to believe that it was frosted, which is how you see it in the pic below. It's since been conquered and now is clear, as it should be. And just because, here's my old Pac cab.. which I still need to re-install the bezel for. I sometimes feel we have to post these afterwards to stave off any "not a real arcade" replies as if they're enlightening us ignorant people. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negative1 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 I found this site that puts it all together for you: www.arcade1up.com really, they'll install a raspberry pi, or a pc, and put in arcade quality parts. wow, i should check that out. later -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mckafka99 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 (edited) Although I will say it is a huge pain in the butt taking off the stickers off the control panel protector. We almost came to believe that it was frosted Thanks for pointing this out. I was puzzled by the appearance of the protector as well and wasn't sure what I was going to do about this 'frosted' cover. Odd that the little instruction sheet that comes with it didn't mention that there were stickers/coverings to remove as it certainly isn't obvious. Have to admit, I am still loving my 12-in-1 with the Spin-Trak spinner mod. Edited December 26, 2018 by mckafka99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negative1 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 For anyone having freezing issues with Galaxian, there is a new board that fixes this, and also the ship color: later -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE146 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 (edited) lol wait what?? They had a bootleg/hack rom on there? Hilarious Edited December 28, 2018 by NE146 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negative1 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 (edited) lol wait what?? They had a bootleg/hack rom on there? Hilarious It's NOT a bootleg, it's an official ROM from Namco. Excerpt from the MOO emulator "readme.txt": g0 = Galaxian (NAMCO ROM DROP, modified version of mame:"galaxian" = Namco - Set 1) g1 = Galaga (NAMCO ROM DROP, modified version of mame:"galagao" = Namco - Rev A) And of course they had to hack ALL the roms,how else are they going to put the licensing information on there. Unless you know of some other magic way of doing it. later -1 Edited December 28, 2018 by negative1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vrock Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Have you noticed any lag/screen tearing? I'm working on converting my brother's Galaga cab to Retropie, but I'm having a lot of performance issues in vertical mode. It's a 3B+ with heat sinks and a fan and it's having trouble running games with the screen rotated. Scrolling games have a lot of tearing and single screen games aren't very smooth - even Pac-Man. I did some searching and found many others having this issue when running games vertically, but no solutions yet. Just curious how it's running for you. You will see tearing if you flip the system using display_rotate in the config file. If you flip it using the libretto emulator settings, it's smooth as silk. The downside is that Emulation Station and other configuration screens can't be flipped, so they will be sideways. Hopefully that's addressed at some point in an update. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negative1 Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 Apparently, there's a new version of the 12-1 board, which fixes the screen alignment issue in Millipede. Doubtful, that the Liberator reset bug is fixed though. later -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramses Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 You will see tearing if you flip the system using display_rotate in the config file. If you flip it using the libretto emulator settings, it's smooth as silk. The downside is that Emulation Station and other configuration screens can't be flipped, so they will be sideways. Hopefully that's addressed at some point in an update. Thanks, I eventually figured it out. I also found out that you can rotate Emulation Station separately by adding the --screenrotate launch parameter to the autostart.sh file. You need to install emulationstation-dev for it to work though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+GoldenWheels Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 Apparently, there's a new version of the 12-1 board, which fixes the screen alignment issue in Millipede. Doubtful, that the Liberator reset bug is fixed though. later -1 What's the reset bug? I've had a couple games on my 12-1 seemingly switch which button (1p or 2p) resets the system. Believe Liberator was one, Tempest also. The manual as I recall says it should be the p2 button....mine seems to work mostly on p1. I googled "reset bug arcade 1up", but saw many things I don't understand. Some constant complaint that Quantum can only be played to level 2 due to trackball sensitivity...how the heck am I getting to level 4 then? (I saw people dogging on Quantum...admittedly I've never played the arcade version so I don't know what it should "feel" like, but I have had a ton of fun with it). Ugh and...any advice for getting dust flecks out from underneath the screen? I am very loathe to take the screen apart but mine has a nice little black piece of dust on the inside driving me bonkers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negative1 Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 What's the reset bug? I've had a couple games on my 12-1 seemingly switch which button (1p or 2p) resets the system. Believe Liberator was one, Tempest also. The manual as I recall says it should be the p2 button....mine seems to work mostly on p1. I googled "reset bug arcade 1up", but saw many things I don't understand. Some constant complaint that Quantum can only be played to level 2 due to trackball sensitivity...how the heck am I getting to level 4 then? (I saw people dogging on Quantum...admittedly I've never played the arcade version so I don't know what it should "feel" like, but I have had a ton of fun with it). Ugh and...any advice for getting dust flecks out from underneath the screen? I am very loathe to take the screen apart but mine has a nice little black piece of dust on the inside driving me bonkers... liberator resets on level 19/22 [use the advanced start] this has been a known issue, and remains unfixed for ages since MAME .106, they never figured out how to fix it either. and since nobody else, except atari [and krome studios] figured out how to do it right on microsoft gameroom, it's not going to get fixed anytime soon. quantum can be 'played' if you call it that. but the default settings, and trackball sensitivity settings are so terrible. it's more like torturing yourself, if you don't do a trackball mod, and the USB mod to access the settings. later -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
128Kgames Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 Apparently, there's a new version of the 12-1 board, which fixes the screen alignment issue in Millipede. Doubtful, that the Liberator reset bug is fixed though. later -1 Interesting, never noticed that on mine but then I don't normally play Millipede on the 12-in-1, I play it on the Centipede cab. I just got a new PCB for the 12-in-1 the other day so now I know what its for. Its too bad its not a fix for the Liberator bug because that's what I had opened a ticket with 1Up for. I'll guess I'll have to swap the board out and see it anything changed with Liberator. Oh and there is good news on the horizon for a drop in, plug and play spinner replacement: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1450378475106130/permalink/1581285172015459/ I'd love to show the video but I can't figure out how to embed Facebook videos on AtariAge posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE146 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 I just got a new PCB for the 12-in-1 the other day so now I know what its for. Its too bad its not a fix for the Liberator bug because that's what I had opened a ticket with 1Up for. I'll guess I'll have to swap the board out and see it anything changed with Liberator. How did you get the PCB? I have the 12-1 and got the control panel protector from them.. are they going to also automatically send one my way? Or do I need to request it? Just curious.. Oh and there is good news on the horizon for a drop in, plug and play spinner replacement: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1450378475106130/permalink/1581285172015459/ All I see is some kind of "join group" page... but when I click join group it requires a Facebook account. Do you have a screenshot maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted December 30, 2018 Author Share Posted December 30, 2018 All I see is some kind of "join group" page... but when I click join group it requires a Facebook account. Do you have a screenshot maybe? It's part of the official fan group on Facebook. Basically, he's gauging interest (to know numbers to produce) for a drop-in replacement (real) spinner for the 12-in-1 or Asteroids cabinets. The estimated price is around $50. That, combined with the keyboard hack to adjust trackball sensitivity should be enough to bring these in line with what they should have been in the first place, although a drop-in replacement for the trackball is apparently in the planning as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
128Kgames Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 How did you get the PCB? I have the 12-1 and got the control panel protector from them.. are they going to also automatically send one my way? Or do I need to request it? Just curious.. All I see is some kind of "join group" page... but when I click join group it requires a Facebook account. Do you have a screenshot maybe? negative1 had posted about the problem with the Liberator bug so I opened a new ticket with 1Up to replace the PCB when/if they had a fix for it. 1Up doesn't send anything out automatically, which is a shame. Apparently the Galaga replacement PCB has been available for a while, and If I hadn't seen it here, I wouldn't have known. That to me sucks - 1Up should be the ones making this information available - on their website - and letting people with the affected cabinets sign up to receive these "fixed" PCB's automatically. It's part of the official fan group on Facebook. Basically, he's gauging interest (to know numbers to produce) for a drop-in replacement (real) spinner for the 12-in-1 or Asteroids cabinets. The estimated price is around $50. That, combined with the keyboard hack to adjust trackball sensitivity should be enough to bring these in line with what they should have been in the first place, although a drop-in replacement for the trackball is apparently in the planning as well. Thanks for that Bill, I forgot that Facebook group was a private group you had to sign up for (although anybody should be able to sign up). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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